C.M. Jones
Diamond Member
Any live video of that tune is going to be an intepretation of that and not a good source regarding what went down in the studio
Precisely. That's all the more reason to get creative and make the song your own.
Any live video of that tune is going to be an intepretation of that and not a good source regarding what went down in the studio
Even hard copy printed transcriptions that you purchase in books usually have some errors. (A friend of mine has a book of Rush transcriptions, and all the really cool fills are wrong.)
If you’ve got tons of experience, sure. But if not, it’s better to check out what other, more experienced drummers are doing. These days we can go right to the source: the drummers playing the gigs with the actual band who wrote the song.That's because all transcriptions are merely interpretations, not scientific facts, making the efficacy of any interpretation debatable. Treat transcriptions as academic models, but play the songs they explicate however you wish. In summation, let your own interpretations prevail.
If you’ve got tons of experience, sure. But if not, it’s better to check out what other, more experienced drummers are doing. These days we can go right to the source: the drummers playing the gigs with the actual band who wrote the song.
In a sense, every rock band is a cover band, as soon as they play a song one time.On a sidenote..
I saw Toto a few months after Porcaro died with Simon Phillips and i had the whole time the feeling that i was looking at a Toto coverband..
That feeling stayed since that time, regardless the drummer they played with..
On a sidenote..
I saw Toto a few months after Porcaro died with Simon Phillips and i had the whole time the feeling that i was looking at a Toto coverband..
That feeling stayed since that time, regardless the drummer they played with..
Thanks for all the replies. Regarding playing verbatim, I can see both sides. As a low-intermediate level drummer, there is value to me in attempting to match the originals simply to expand my horizons and vocabulary instead of falling back on familiar patterns. Ideally, I want to know that I could play the original and am choosing to apply my own twist. Of course, one problem is that lots of songs are multi-tracked and make exact matching nearly impossible (Message in a Bottle comes to mind in addition to this one).
What I did was play fast 16th notes with the accents on melody cues so Da dum -da dum dum -da dum dum dum, then fast 16s for twinkly part-then accents, etc. I know everyone understood that analysis LOL. I didn't even fool with toms yet. Playing the fast 16s with melody makes it sound less rushed (to my ear-only got one hearing aid now the other out for repair), but it's the same motion through out (you just don't hear it)
That wasn't directed toward you specifically, GripGet. It was for those alluding to the notion that any effort to sound like someone else is senseless. Although I don't think anyone here thinks it's senseless to try to capture the "essence" of the original sound. HOWEVER, we were on this beautiful path to discussing Porcaro, drumming flow, etc, and some of you out there think it's a perfect time discuss individualism. I digress. LOLI'm digressing to cutting and pasting again. It's like making a card rather than buying one-take some effort for people. "No No. No No No No No. If someone starts a thread about something, we're supposed to first give it our best shot at helping them with that something before discrediting the rationale behind it. Qualifying every issue gets really old here on DW." Ooooops! My Bad-well it wasn't discrediting as much as off topic-but point taken. The only thing separating mankind from the animals is........-well nothing come think of it. But you're correct and we need to focus on the problem rather than rabbit holes-like the one I fell in.