C.M. Jones
Diamond Member
I picture this:
That's a pretty good example of a drummer who deserves attention -- probably from a psychiatrist.
I picture this:
You said completely ignore . That’s what I’m going from .I'm pretty confident that every drummer on your list would refer to himself as a musician first and a drummer second. Likewise, every drummer on your list would maintain that a drummer's ultimate goal is to function as an integral component that blends with a unit, not as a standalone spectacle that begs for attention. When I state that a good drummer can be ignored, my point is that he's doing exactly what the music demands and doesn't draw inordinate attention to himself like a hapless egomaniac in a "please look at me" YouTube solo.
That's because you are a drummer. Ask your wife who Joe Morello is. Or better yet, ask any non drummer who any of those people are, and what band they are in. They dont know, they aren't drummers. It's just music to them, i.e. the drummer is just part of the song, or is ignorable. The singer is the only one most people care about.I can’t ignore
John Bonham
Kieth Moon
Neil Peart
Buddy Rich
Joe Morello
David Garibadl
Gavin Harrison
I could go forever ...
That's because you are a drummer. Ask your wife who Joe Morello is. Or better yet, ask any non drummer who any of those people are, and what band they are in. They dont know, they aren't drummers. It's just music to them, i.e. the drummer is just part of the song, or is ignorable. The singer is the only one most people care about.
So , the fact that Bonham and Peart stand out and are noticed by non musicians means they overplay ?Quite right. Auditory studies reveal that non-musicians don't break music into segregated units. Rather, they process music as a whole. Listening is mostly a right-brained activity for them. Guitar, drums, and bass somewhat bleed into a uniform mass. Under this paradigm, a drummer would stand out only if his playing deviated from the overarching character of a given composition. By most measures, that would be the definition of bad drumming.
Nobody said that. What is implied by what was said is we as drummers are going to notice drummers and drumming more than the average listener. Just like sports nuts are gonna be all about the players stats, names, etc. I get that Barry Bonds was a good player. I have no idea who he played for or what position. Why? Because I dont care about baseball. It exists, I recognize names, that's already too much as far as I'm concerned. Most people are the same with drums, or any instrument for that matter. People today dont even know who the Beatles are. Why should they care about Bonham, Peart, Paice, Ulrich, Menza, Longstreth, or anyone else?So , the fact that Bonham and Peart stand out and are noticed by non musicians means they overplay ?
When the drummer plays for the song, it's musical and he doesnt stick out like a sore thumb.
I certainly listen to the drumming - but even as a drummer (in a limited capacity) - I'm unlikely to be able to put a name to the drummer on any given song. But that doesn't imply that the drumming itself was 'anonymous' or 'invisible' at all.That's because you are a drummer. Ask your wife who Joe Morello is. Or better yet, ask any non drummer who any of those people are, and what band they are in. They dont know, they aren't drummers. It's just music to them, i.e. the drummer is just part of the song, or is ignorable. The singer is the only one most people care about.
If you were a guitarist would you notice all the drums? Or better yet, do you notice all the guitar?I certainly listen to the drumming - but even as a drummer (in a limited capacity) - I'm unlikely to be able to put a name to the drummer on any given song. But that doesn't imply that the drumming itself was 'anonymous' or 'invisible' at all.
I certainly listen to the drumming - but even as a drummer (in a limited capacity) - I'm unlikely to be able to put a name to the drummer on any given song. But that doesn't imply that the drumming itself was 'anonymous' or 'invisible' at all.
If you were a guitarist would you notice all the drums?
That's pretty bad. How do they even get that far?Ha! I've played with a few guitarists who don't even realize they're on stage with other musicians. How's that for not noticing drums?