2021 NAMM Drum Gear

Jeremy Bender

Jeremy Bender

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Yeah those Sonor jazz kits look like a lot of fun to play and could also be a good idea for a little boy I know who may get his first kit at Christmas next year so I'm looking forward to checking them out. I'm also wondering if their Prolite line isn't dying a slow death?
 
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someguy01

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I keep coming back to those Neusonic kits. I do like that they're offering the fab sizes in more options than just the Digital Oyster. The price is right, the colours are improving, I'm intrigued by the hybrid maple/cherry shell, and it's a Ludwig so it has history.
It'd be nice if someone local had one I could play.
 
someguy01

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IBitePrettyHard said:
It's a shame that Ludwig is raising the prices of their new Neusonic kits. The $1000 pricepoint is one of the biggest selling points for the Neusonics.
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Actually, with the fab sizing, they're $100 less than the digital oyster kit which is the only one available in the fab sizes until the new ones hit the market.

www.sweetwater.com

Ludwig NeuSonic Fab 22 Shell Pack - Digital Black Oyster

3-piece Cherry/Maple Shell Pack with 13" Tom, 16" Floor Tom, and 22" Bass Drum - Digital Black Oyster
www.sweetwater.com www.sweetwater.com
 
Rattlin' Bones

Rattlin' Bones

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I'm with ya, but if the only new finishes are a darker faux wood and a different shade of black formica, then I'm still not gonna buy a Neusonic. BMP or WMP, an oyster, or some black or green or red or blue or silver sparkle. Come on Ludwig - who is advising on color choices on those formica wraps. They're horrible. Go with a different wrap and you'd own the market. I ain't looking at any Gretsch Renown or Catalina or Tama or PDP in that price range if I could get a USA Made Ludwig in a sparkle or marine or pearl. Really. And don't tell me it's because wrap is another layer of the veneer and part of shell. Rethink and think out of the box and take over that market.

someguy01 said:
I keep coming back to those Neusonic kits. I do like that they're offering the fab sizes in more options than just the Digital Oyster. The price is right, the colours are improving, I'm intrigued by the hybrid maple/cherry shell, and it's a Ludwig so it has history.
It'd be nice if someone local had one I could play.
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IBitePrettyHard

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someguy01 said:
Actually, with the fab sizing, they're $100 less than the digital oyster kit which is the only one available in the fab sizes until the new ones hit the market.

www.sweetwater.com

Ludwig NeuSonic Fab 22 Shell Pack - Digital Black Oyster

3-piece Cherry/Maple Shell Pack with 13" Tom, 16" Floor Tom, and 22" Bass Drum - Digital Black Oyster
www.sweetwater.com www.sweetwater.com
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I really think the Neusonics sound great. It's just that the cost-cutting design doesn't appeal to me. They're quite bland. (and not bland in a Yamaha Stage/Tour Custom sort of way that is still quite endearing). It's good to see they've upgraded the bass drum spurs for the 2021 models, though.

I prefer a 12" rack to a 13" rack, but I can see why they're charging more. But a 1" larger rack tom, upgraded bass drum spurs, and new finish options shouldn't cost $200 more IMO. A $100 increase seems more reasonable to me.
 
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vyacheslav

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Looks like Sonor is basically reintroducing the Chinese made Martini, Safari and Bop kits, just calling it AQX..............................
 
Fritz Frigursson

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IBitePrettyHard said:
I really think the Neusonics sound great. It's just that the cost-cutting design doesn't appeal to me. They're quite bland. (and not bland in a Yamaha Stage/Tour Custom sort of way that is still quite endearing). It's good to see they've upgraded the bass drum spurs for the 2021 models, though.

I prefer a 12" rack to a 13" rack, but I can see why they're charging more. But a 1" larger rack tom, upgraded bass drum spurs, and new finish options shouldn't cost $200 more IMO. A $100 increase seems more reasonable to me.
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If they put standard lugs and also finished the edge of the kick drum hoops, I think it would be a very nice kit at this price.
 
IBitePrettyHard

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So far, this "Virtual NAMM" show is a convoluted mess. It's terrible. So far I'd give it D-. It feels like they contracted employees from the DMV to run the show. The layout and execution of the website is really that bad.

I registered for the show and have been perusing the "NAMM Believe in Music" website for the past hour. I've learned very, very little. Sure, not all the vendors have announced their stuff yet, but the ones who have...just wow. They link to Unlisted Youtube videos that often have less than a dozen views. Here's an example from Gibraltar, which had 2 views when I saw it. Nobody knows it's there because it's hidden on this stupid website.

/end rant. Sorry I had to vent. I hate bad website design.
 
Fritz Frigursson

Fritz Frigursson

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IBitePrettyHard said:
So far, this "Virtual NAMM" show is a convoluted mess. It's terrible. So far I'd give it D-. It feels like they contracted employees from the DMV to run the show. The layout and execution of the website is really that bad.

I registered for the show and have been perusing the "NAMM Believe in Music" website for the past hour. I've learned very, very little. Sure, not all the vendors have announced their stuff yet, but the ones who have...just wow. They link to Unlisted Youtube videos that often have less than a dozen views. Here's an example from Gibraltar, which had 2 views when I saw it. Nobody knows it's there because it's hidden on this stupid website.

/end rant. Sorry I had to vent. I hate bad website design.
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When is the majority of launches going to start? I thought it was today but I'm not seeing anything. I really hope NAMM 21 doesn't end with 5 product launches in total, I was getting excited...
 
IBitePrettyHard

IBitePrettyHard

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Fritz Frigursson said:
When is the majority of launches going to start? I thought it was today but I'm not seeing anything. I really hope NAMM 21 doesn't end with 5 product launches in total, I was getting excited...
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Most of the major drum manufacturers don't even appear to have showed up. No Tama, no DW, no Gretsch, no Ludwig, no Sabian, no Zildjian. Maybe it's just easier to list the companies that DID show up. Roland, Yamaha, Dixon, Pearl and Sakae. That's pretty much it.

On the website you sign up for these "events". What are these big events once they go live? They link you to a stupid Youtube video. That's it. Most of them are useless promotional puff pieces with no actual info.

This is one of the FEW pieces of actual new info I've managed to find. Sakae's new Evolved line. (with the quirky badges, blech)
https://sakae-drums.com/en/products/shell-kits/evolved/
 
Fritz Frigursson

Fritz Frigursson

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IBitePrettyHard said:
Most of the major drum manufacturers don't even appear to have showed up. No Tama, no DW, no Gretsch, no Sabian, no Zildjian. Maybe it's just easier to list the companies that DID show up. Roland, Yamaha, Dixon, Pearl and Sakae. That's pretty much it.

On the website you sign up for these "events". What are these big events once they go live? They link you to a stupid Youtube video. That's it. Most of them are useless promotional puff pieces with no actual info.

This is one of the FEW pieces of actual new info I've managed to find. Sakae's new Evolved line. (with the quirky badges, blech)
https://sakae-drums.com/en/products/shell-kits/evolved/
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Very disappointing. I have been searching for NAMM news for the last 3 days of NAMM and I have so far found a few guitar pedals, a few signature guitars, a couple snares/hardware pieces from drum brands and a couple new synths. I expected new releases from major brands but I guess they're not happening? Or they're somehow all saving it for the last day? I hope it's the latter. I saw "global product launch event" set for today on the NAMM calendar but so far nothing has come out. I'll have to wait a bit since I'm in Europe and don't share the same time as in the US.
 
wildbill

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IBitePrettyHard said:
Most of the major drum manufacturers don't even appear to have showed up. No Tama, no DW, no Gretsch, no Ludwig, no Sabian, no Zildjian. Maybe it's just easier to list the companies that DID show up. Roland, Yamaha, Dixon, Pearl and Sakae. That's pretty much it.

On the website you sign up for these "events". What are these big events once they go live? They link you to a stupid Youtube video. That's it. Most of them are useless promotional puff pieces with no actual info.

This is one of the FEW pieces of actual new info I've managed to find. Sakae's new Evolved line. (with the quirky badges, blech)
https://sakae-drums.com/en/products/shell-kits/evolved/
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I was under the impression that manufacturers weren't going to 'show up' somewhere,
but that they would have their own broadcasts, and that the NAMM BIM site was supposed to sort of be the host of it.

I don't really know, because I didn't sign up for it. I found some stuff here:
but there's no rhyme or reason to it.
Info from the manufacturers seems to be a bit sparse too.

If you go to manufacturer's sites, a simple "These are the new products for NAMM 2021" would suffice.
But that would be too simple, right? :unsure:
 
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IBitePrettyHard

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wildbill said:
I was under the impression that manufacturers weren't going to 'show up' somewhere,
but that they would have their own broadcasts, and that the NAMM BIM site was supposed to sort of be the host of it.

I don't really know, because I didn't sign up for it. I found some stuff here:
but there's no rhyme or reason to it.
Info from the manufacturers seems to be a bit sparse too.
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I meant showing up to the virtual event, so to speak. It appears nobody is showing up. And the ones who did just posted a few corporate ads in the form of Youtube videos.

This is the "meatiest" video I've found so far. It took me 2 hours to find this video. Pretty sad really, because this was already announced before.

 
IBitePrettyHard

IBitePrettyHard

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wildbill said:
Nothing on the BIM site? According to this, 1,000+ brands were supposed to be signed up to show stuff.

Believe in Music Week

www.nammfoundation.org www.nammfoundation.org
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Don't go to that website if you value your sanity, lol. It's really REALLY bad. The more I try to figure it out the more frustrated I become.

Here's another example. This "Live Event" just started 7 minutes ago called "A Snarky Approach to Drumming". I love Snarky Puppy and Larnell Lewis. Thought it'd be interesting.

HERE IS THAT BIG EVENT!... they just linked to a 90 minute pre-recorded Zoom call...that's already been on Youtube for 2 months.
 
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