Several years ago I bought an aax 20 in ISO crash specifically for the classic rock band I was playing in at the time. I was using it as a crash ride I liked just about everything about it within the context of that band. I also bought an 18in K dark crash to go with it. After I left that band that I decided to sell the iso crash in order to purchase a HH medium thin crash to go with the 16 HH that I've had for many years. Now That same band needs a drummer to help hold the band together while their drummer is having back surgery. So I told them I'd help them out. Last night I took the 18 and 16 HH cymbals for rehearsal and to my surprise the 18 almost fills the duties of a good crash ride. I love the crash sound of the 18 playing old Zeppelin, Beatles, stones,etc. and the ride sound is not all that bad either except for it doesn't have very much ping, definition is somewhat faint but the wash is great.