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Same but I dont have a 505, I have many other paisties but your first two are my favs too. For the fifth one Ill add the 19" Giant Beat Multi I use as a ride on a smaller set. I'm looking for a 22" 404 .

I like to make my own Weird Al Lyrics to classics songs.

Rock is heavy, Universal is mediums, Session are light. Fyi, my son's medium set is several years old now, and sounding better and better as it ages.

If you like a darker sound on a budget, find the older thin PST5's, 14, 16 and 18's (not the new medium or heavys), use the 18 as a crash ride, perfect great sounding budget cymbals that I think sound better than the pst7's. There a good reason Paiste discontinued them.

I found the PST7 better sounding if the set is not against a wall, its near field sound is less refined than the 2002s and might be a turn off to some. They sound better if the walls are far away and in a bigger room, if not the PST 5's sound better near field as they are darker.

I purchased one when my son started playing when he was 6. We still play it for fun, but that space between the top of the bass drum and tom is wasted, an 18 in bass drum would have better to make it a perfect set. The Toms sound great if you put the stock top pinstripe on the bottom and coated...

Get the pst5's (not rock or heavy), way better than other entry level sets for the price.

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All Sabian B8's should be melted in the oven and then remade into Paisties. That the best way to conserve Copper. :sneaky:

Signatures are great, but after a while I tire of them just like the rudes, I stick to 2002's and Giant Beats, and some of their older value lines.

U2 Bonos preaching and then hanging out with the establishment is what did it. I still like the early stuff though.

Double 26" bass drums with loose panties on should put on a good show! :p

The Sound of the drum is within YOUR head. Its all perception. If you cant hear the difference in the shells and believe most of the sound type comes from the heads fine, good for you. But thats not how my head perceives it. To my head the shell makes a big difference given the same drum heads...

as for the videos posted here A. People can do want as they please with drums. There are no rules. B. Some people do anything to stand out from the crowd and get noticed, more power to them or C. Instead of gimmicks and show, maybe these drummers should practice, improve and invent compose...

Yeah, the 404 22” ride has a magical sound. Love that video

One of my sets use the 19” multi as a primarily as a ride

Also the PST7's get better with age as it tarnishes. I suspect thats also why the 404 and 505's hold up still. Fine Wine

They are loud enough and cut through loud guitars just fine, Even more so than Zildjian A's. These are B8's, they have darker yet shimmery sound at the same time, Magical! I have 2002's med and thins too, but the Giant Beats are special.

The best sounding cymbals in the market today, my opinion of course. I have the same but 15"s are the 2002 SoundEdges

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