O.K., I just want to throw this out to you all. I've had about 25 kits now and finally I think I know what I want in a drum kit. My Gretsch Renown Rock kit 24,13,16 is just a little too big for what I need, my Gretsvh Cat Jazz is just a tad too small. So I'm thinking for me a 20x14, 12x9, 15x14...