The use of the wrists in double strokes

Bill has also been one of the biggest influences on how I play and teach doubles as well...and is a super nice, and smart guy.

I don't use as much forearm as him at top speeds (that is a 90's drum corps thing), but I get where he is coming from as far as getting power for endurance at that speed
Alan Abel taught his students this type of technique. Ted Atkatz did a nice demonstration of it at PASIC years back, calling it the "chicken wing". Granted it's not the same, but it's interesting to see similar concepts.

Vic Firth Fundamentals 2: The Chicken Wing Technique
 
Alan Abel taught his students this type of technique. Ted Atkatz did a nice demonstration of it at PASIC years back, calling it the "chicken wing". Granted it's not the same, but it's interesting to see similar concepts.

Vic Firth Fundamentals 2: The Chicken Wing Technique

and interesting that it would be used/though of by a orchestral guy....i get some of what he is talking about, but it still seems to be too stiff, and clunky sounding to my ears...but it also is a tool that is in my box being a guy who lived through the 90's
 
and interesting that it would be used/though of by a orchestral guy....i get some of what he is talking about, but it still seems to be too stiff, and clunky sounding to my ears...but it also is a tool that is in my box being a guy who lived through the 90's

In the orchestral context, it’s mostly used for those very rare loud passages that are also very fast, and for extremely loud buzz rolls.
 
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