DrumEatDrum
Platinum Member
I was taught to count 16th note triplets as 1 ti ta + ti ta or 1 tuh tuh + tuh tuh or such variations that are always two groups of 3 syllables.
Which works just fine when going from an 8th note triple feel into 16th note triplets,
and works when you go from 8th notes into a fill with 3 note groupings such as RlrLrl
However, when going from 8th notes or straight 16ths into 16th note triplets where the fill in phrased in groups of 2s RlRlRl or 4+2 RlrlRl it's always "feels" a bit awkward to count them in the traditional manner.
Why does it fell awkward? Because if you're playing a beat that in groups of 2s and 4s (as one would when playing straight 8ths and/or 16ths) and then you play a fill that is groups of 2's and/or 4+2, there is no 3 syllable feel or phrase, just a change in the sub-division.
This becomes especially awkward when breaking the 2s and 4's between hands and feet, like Steve Smith does on the into to "Where Were You".
So today I'm working on some ideas, and I just think, man, there HAS to be a better way to count 16th note triplets in such a situation that better aligns the "feel" of 2's and 4's rather than feeling them "against" the 3 syllable phrase that is otherwise no where to be found in the song(s) I'm working on.
And then I think, I can't be the only drumming dork who finds this a bit strange. But I've never heard a 6 syllable phrase.
Any ideas?
Thank you.
Which works just fine when going from an 8th note triple feel into 16th note triplets,
and works when you go from 8th notes into a fill with 3 note groupings such as RlrLrl
However, when going from 8th notes or straight 16ths into 16th note triplets where the fill in phrased in groups of 2s RlRlRl or 4+2 RlrlRl it's always "feels" a bit awkward to count them in the traditional manner.
Why does it fell awkward? Because if you're playing a beat that in groups of 2s and 4s (as one would when playing straight 8ths and/or 16ths) and then you play a fill that is groups of 2's and/or 4+2, there is no 3 syllable feel or phrase, just a change in the sub-division.
This becomes especially awkward when breaking the 2s and 4's between hands and feet, like Steve Smith does on the into to "Where Were You".
So today I'm working on some ideas, and I just think, man, there HAS to be a better way to count 16th note triplets in such a situation that better aligns the "feel" of 2's and 4's rather than feeling them "against" the 3 syllable phrase that is otherwise no where to be found in the song(s) I'm working on.
And then I think, I can't be the only drumming dork who finds this a bit strange. But I've never heard a 6 syllable phrase.
Any ideas?
Thank you.