As for you Jay, aren't you sick of trolling this site yet? I knew you were not a real musician when you were posting as Jay Norem. I knew you were a fake. Can you not get a better hobby?
I recall not long ago someone mentioned the bodhran, I think it was Michael. And I responded. Sure enough the next day you got a bodhran too.
Ha ha! Yes that was me and I had no idea that Jay suddenly claimed to be a bodhran player as well! Now that's funny!
Yes, I am getting quite sick of the trolling myself and I shouldn't have kept replying to his posts earlier in this thread. I will make it a point from now on to just ignore his posts. I'm also a member of a jazz forum of which he is a member and it's the same thing there as well. A guy who loves to throw out a piece of red meat and watch the ensuing fight, and just when things are dying down, post something else to reignite the fire.
BTW for anybody that's interested, the correct pronunciation of that instrument is bayr-rawn. The only reason I know that is because my grandfather spoke Irish, and taught me a decent amount of Irish as well, although it has been hard keeping it up since he passed away. I rely on a friend from Kerry who's a fluent Irish speaker to help keep my skills up through conversations. Anyway, just figured I'd add that in just in case anyone here takes a trip to Ireland.
Who the hell is Jay Norem!? Let us in on the secret already!
I guess it doesn't matter, just a point of interest... It's like asking "Who is John Galt", or something!
Yeah, a friend of mine let me borrow Eric Dolphy's "Out To Lunch" and I hated it! Man, I really wanted to like it, being Tony Williams and all, but I just couldn't do it. I've known my share of real jazz snobs and I know they're out there. I took jazz band in high school and college and was left with the flavor that it's a bit of a cult. No biggie, I feel the same way about death metal!
I really like Count Basie with Gus Williams from around '54, though. It was the only thing that could get my newborn to sleep. It really seemed to sooth his mind, and for my part, I didn't mind at all listening to that one album I had day in and day out, night after night for the first 2 years of his life (a nameless album that I put on CD and that I've never seen anywhere... i think it might have been live at the Savoy or something) I still listen to it.
Look up his posts under his real name and see for yourself. It's a little too difficult to describe his behavior. You just have to see it for yourself, although Stan and Wy have described it in a nutshell.
I didn't care for Dolphy's album "Out To Lunch" myself, although I think he was a great musician and think it was such a shame that he died so young. However, I do really enjoy the stuff he did with Oliver Nelson. "Screamin' The Blues" and "Blues And The Abstract Truth" are great albums. Check them out and see what you think.
I love Basie as well. Hardest swinging big band of all-time. My favorites of the 1950s period are the ones with Sonny Payne. Take a listen to "Atomic Swing". Certainly lives up to it's title.
I've met snobs in all forms of music. Jazz does not sit alone in this category. In fact, it has PLENTY of company. If it's one thing that I can say from my experiences, it's that no matter what kind of music you're talking about, the snobs make up a very small minority of the overall population of those musicians.
Even though I am a jazz musician, it does bother me that people accept this snobbery stereotype and apply it to all jazz musicians, and therefore assume that I think of myself as being a superior musician just because I play jazz. I don't like it when people apply these preconceived notions to me before they even know me. I don't think anybody would wish to be treated that way. I listen to so many different styles of music, and I love listening to somebody that can really play their a** off, no matter what style it is we're talking about. For example:
Rodrigo y Gabriela:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lvMQCmUVv8
Lawson Rollins:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ9PRzIyzFA
John Joe Kelly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ChbigufBC8
Stochelo Rosenberg:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Jy-XPgLpgc
I just love watching and listening to great musicians. I don't care who they are, where they're from, or what genre or instrument they play. I just love watching a musician that can really tear it up!