Larry
"Uncle Larry"
After trying to tune my 10" walnut tom to sound like a timbale and not being satisfied, I decided I need a real timbale on my set.I only do them on my smallest toms a-la the timbale effect...
After trying to tune my 10" walnut tom to sound like a timbale and not being satisfied, I decided I need a real timbale on my set.I only do them on my smallest toms a-la the timbale effect...
You need 4 to pull off both parts of the drum battle in "Frankenstein" between Edgar Winter and Chuck Ruff.After trying to tune my 10" walnut tom to sound like a timbale and not being satisfied, I decided I need a real timbale on my set.
Just stop it, please.
I can understand if you have songs that are truly best served by constant rim shots, but nobody wants to hear that **** on every song, especially if you're not playing death metal. Even death metal fans get sick of it. And really, folks...if you think your snare needs constant rimshots to sound badass, you either need another snare or you need to up your badass game, and I've been around long enough to bet money that it's not the snare.
Phew! Glad I got that off my chest...been wanting to say that ever since I got on here.
So who's with me here?
WOW, Burt Bacharach? You must be pretty goodTo continue debunking the notion that rimshots on the snare are nothing but loud and obnoxious... I played Burt Bacharach's live shows on and off for about 30 years and during that whole time I doubt I ever played more than 32 bars of center hit back beats in any one show. And his show literally defines "restrained" with zero place for loud excesses at all.
It's just a different sound - and one that can be played at nearly all dynamic levels.
I didn't know you could do that. That's pretty cool.And when you find an angle you like, use the level feature on an app like Measure to measure the angle. Then you can make sure it's consistent at every gig.
This sounds interesting !! But I often see amateur drummers overuse rim shots. They only play one kind of loud rim shot.To continue debunking the notion that rimshots on the snare are nothing but loud and obnoxious... I played Burt Bacharach's live shows on and off for about 30 years and during that whole time I doubt I ever played more than 32 bars of center hit back beats in any one show. And his show literally defines "restrained" with zero place for loud excesses at all.
It's just a different sound - and one that can be played at nearly all dynamic levels.
Interesting - I hadn't thought about how trad vs matched would play into this. But you're probably right. The trad LH stick is out there, sort of floating, poised to fully ring and resonate - which I think effects what it hits. Where with matched, it seems like we have more control over how much flesh is touching and pressure is being used to dampen the stick - thus dulling the sound of the rimshot. Not at the drums right now - but that really makes sense.This sounds interesting !! But I often see amateur drummers overuse rim shots. They only play one kind of loud rim shot.
Because I can't hit consistent softer rim shots with my traditional grip left hand, I don't use rim shots on my normal back beats.
However, last night I was playing a low volume gig in a restaurant using wooden rod sticks. During a couple of rock songs I began hitting rim shots with the rods. For some reason it was easy for me to hit consistent rim shots, matched grip with my left hand. Sounded pretty good. A nice softer crack. "He Likes it. Hey Mikey!"
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Who likes to rimshot their toms? Can't say I regularly do but its a sound option and sometimes I like it when it fits for the expression, just another choice.
Close enough for when I'd ever want it out of the snare. Can't bring myself to tune my toms that high, though.Works for timbale like sound.
Or....you could use threads to understand things you currently don't get.Man, I reallI'm here to question conventional wisdom and question why things common with drummers today are misperceptions or just things I hate.