danondrums
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I've yet to meet a guitarist that doesn't believe that there is actually a count going on in Black Dog by Led Zeppelin...
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
I see you are not a guitarist.Bonham & Jones worked out that turnaround together. There’s a count in there.
I see what you did there...We recorded a short bit of that to insert in one of our songs, and I remember the countoff to start took a couple of tries to agree on how to come in together on the snare pickup. And when we played it live, it always worked. I guess the "one" is up for debate, but as long as everyone's on the same page, it's not hard.
I've yet to meet a guitarist that doesn't believe that there is actually a count going on...
LOLfixed it for us....
No lie. I hate it when a hasty tempo kills the pocket.They want to play everything like 20% faster than the originals. Yuck.
I have, but forgot his nameI've yet to meet a guitarist that doesn't believe that there is actually a count going on in Black Dog by Led Zeppelin...
Thoughts?
As long as everyone is on the same PageWe recorded a short bit of that to insert in one of our songs, and I remember the countoff to start took a couple of tries to agree on how to come in together on the snare pickup. And when we played it live, it always worked. I guess the "one" is up for debate, but as long as everyone's on the same page, it's not hard.
No lie. I hate it when a hasty tempo kills the pocket.
Don't know if it's true or not, but according to Theodore Gracyk's book, Listening to Popular Music, Or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Led Zeppelin, in the studio the acapella bits have a measure of 5/4, but live, they changed that to 4/4 so the band were more assured of all coming back in together.I believe even Led Zeppelin had fun trying to replicate the recording. If you listen to the tune from IV and then listen to the live versions they've done you will hear that they don't do the pauses the way they did them on the record. At least this is what I've found when I learned to play the tune for my band. I learned most of it from the record. Then I figured out the breaks from the live versions. They are not the same. When they play it live they don't pause but play the next line in time. Unless I'm cuckoo for cocoa puffs. Which is highly probable.