Keegan Hammond
Junior Member
Hello, I'm about to purchase a 70s 3-ply WMP kit in my area, sizes 12,13,16,18,22. All shells and hoops are round, what do you guys think a reasonable price would be for the kit as described in 7.5/10 condition?
I have them priced at $1,300 (which I think is very fair considering condition and originality, and that they are 60's Keystones) and I haven't had any interest. 5-10 years ago, I bet I would have sold them in less than week.
Yes ... it is indeed a buyers market. The 18x16 floor tom is the only thing that sets this kit apart. 22, 12, 13, 16 kits ..... you see them all the time. So .... I concur with Vyacheslav ..... $1500, around there.I would say $1,500 or so is fair. Any other issues and the price drops considerably. This would be wrap issues, extra holes, aftermarket (non factory) parts, missing badges etc.
Just to use as a guide, I have a Ludwig Keystone Era 1966 Super Classic in Blue Sparkle (13/16/22) in excellent condition, no extra holes, no wrap issues, all original parts and I even have the original "Naughahyde" bags for all the drums. I have them priced at $1,300 (which I think is very fair considering condition and originality, and that they are 60's Keystones) and I haven't had any interest. 5-10 years ago, I bet I would have sold them in less than week.
Just to satisfy my own curiosity....
If someone offered you $1000, what would you ultimately say/think/do?
Well of course they do. That's why we love vintage drums. Lolthey sound huge and warm.
You could unyellow the wrap for like 30 dollars with 10% peroxide gel and sunlight.
It will make it look brand new, no exaggeration
And to top it all off it seems like you dodged the dreaded "riveted wrap seam" era too.
It depends on the wrap. I imagine the shells are in good shape. WMP wrap is notorious for yellowing. How bad is it? You can ask the seller to remove a lug on the top of the bass drum to tell. Also, wrap seams lifting is common to Ludwig. Assuming the wrap is in good condition, and the fact that this is a big time buyers market right now, I would say $1,500 or so is fair. Any other issues and the price drops considerably. This would be wrap issues, extra holes, aftermarket (non factory) parts, missing badges etc.
Just to use as a guide, I have a Ludwig Keystone Era 1966 Super Classic in Blue Sparkle (13/16/22) in excellent condition, no extra holes, no wrap issues, all original parts and I even have the original "Naughahyde" bags for all the drums. I have them priced at $1,300 (which I think is very fair considering condition and originality, and that they are 60's Keystones) and I haven't had any interest. 5-10 years ago, I bet I would have sold them in less than week.
And to top it all off it seems like you dodged the dreaded "riveted wrap seam" era too.
Late 70's/early 80's .... Ludwig wrap ..... most accounts date this around '79 .... and buy '84 it was over. Buyers had started returning drums because the wrap was SHRINKING. Some drums were returned two or three times. So Ludwig's answer was to rivet the wrap seam to the shell. Problem was ..... that wasn't a cure. The wrap still shrunk ..... and now you had rivets and rivet holes as well. Ludwig switched from 3 ply to 6 ply shells in '76, so I don't think any 3 ply shells (drums OP has) were ever riveted.What's with the riveted wrap seam?