drum4fun27302
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I want to be able to do what he does
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBnSADDKWJk
especially around 20:17
or at 40:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBnSADDKWJk
especially around 20:17
or at 40:00
You need to do that Larry. You've never heard them outside the sonic confines of your basement. Those babies need to breathe, & when they do, you'll roar! Go on - shock yourselfAgain, guilty as everyone else here with gear lust but I know great drums don't make me a better player. If that were the case, I'd gig the Gurus lol.
The gear is part of the dream, surely. Because if you had your dream kit, you'd also have the skillz that would show it off to its best advantage, wouldn't you? No point having one without the other.
Unless, of course, you're me, sitting sparklily behind your dream kit and not even holding drumsticks:
Again, guilty as everyone else here with gear lust but I know great drums don't make me a better player. If that were the case, I'd gig the Gurus lol.
I'm not sure what lessons cost these days but imagine how much better we would all be if we spent, 3, 5 or 10k on lessons rather than custom drums.
Tommy Igoe told me once that not enough teachers teach vocabulary. A great place to start is Louie Bellsons Modern reading text in 4/4. That's where he started me.
Just tap quarters with your foot and play the pages hand to hand. You will be amazed at how many cool rhythmic ideas you wil be introduced to.
Another place is The New Breed by Gary Chester. As a matter of fact you can use the Beloson Book as your melody source for the Chester book.
Do it my nan, you'll thank me
You need to do that Larry. You've never heard them outside the sonic confines of your basement. Those babies need to breathe, & when they do, you'll roar! Go on - shock yourself
If a drummer's job is to make others sound good, then I'm already achieving that
I understand the idea of "it's not the drums, it's the drummer", It's not the arrow, it's the Indian". these phrases work when you have the goods to show for it, but not when you need the sound you hear in your head. fancying the sounds is not the same as having them. It's difficult to feel comfortable and creative without the confidence of the sound in your head, and that confidence comes from experience.
What a weird thread.
It's not that weird with all due respect...
No one's saying that a drummer is shallow because of their love about drum gear, this thread's about the fact that there's more discussion about drum gear than drumming skills, it's only a fact, not a controversy.
I get the bit about top drum lines sounding better (theoretically) and in many cases, yes, it does makes some difference and certainly act as a motivation factor. But the "sounding better" is inevitably linked with "tuning skills", so unless you have the necessary skills to actually bring out the best sounds (very subjective topic here) it will sound as bad (or as good) as an entry level kit. The bottom line is that drumming skills are far more important than the gear you're using and an audience will remember a good drummer and have probably no clue whatsoever what gear the said drummer was using.
I also get the bit that it's more enjoyable to play a top of the line kit rather than an entry cheapo level kit, more enjoyable? Yes, a better drummer? Not sure about that.
To be honest, I've seen and heard so many times drummers playing a top of the line kit and sounding plain horrible with very poor drumming skills, I witnessed the opposite too where a drummer was smoking on a entry level kit both in drumming skills and sounding very good, the saying "it's not the drums, it's the drummer" makes sense then and to a certain extend it's so true.
But hey... we're drummers, we love drums, cymbals, pedals and whatever ... but it's because we are drummers and that's has nothing to do with musicianship, you get hired because of your skills, not because of what gear you're using.
So, it's a perfectly valid observation from Uncle Larry, it's not weird at all