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Old 12-04-2012, 06:36 PM
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Hey all! Here's a thread with some pics of my recently-downsized snare collection. I kept the cream of the crop, and here they are to sate your eye-candy/drum porn addictions. I've talked about several of these snares in depth over the past few years, but feel free to ask questions. You know I love to talk about these drums.

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1. Rhythm Traders 12x5 hammered copper snare. A local drum shop pieced together their own snares a few years ago, and I managed to snag one.
2. 1965 Slingerland Hollywood Ace (gold sparkle). Was my go-to snare for years, and got me started on my vintage drum fascination/addiction. Missing the badge and has a replacement throw off, but makes up for lack of originality with a throaty, woody tone.
3. Pre-serial Ludwig Auditorium (green sparkle). Great all-around snare. Lots of body.
4. 1967 Ludwig Pioneer (silver sparkle). I got this drum with a blue sparkle keystone kit I bought. I'm usually not a fan of 6-lug drums, and I was planning on selling it off right away, but this one has stuck around and stood the test of time. It's a little more "open", and yet dry at the same time.
5. Drum Workshop (black nickel over brass). I had a Collector's Series DW black on brass snare, but I sold it, then later regretted it, so I bought this one to replace it. It's nice when I want a shallow yet ringy metal snare.
6. Ludwig 14x6.5 Black Beauty. *Ahem*, um, moving on...
7. Rogers Powertone (chrome over brass). One of my bandmates has one of these that I fell in love with, and I finally found one locally. It has the warm, shallow, brassy/metallic sound of the Drum Workshop brass snare, but is dry, probably due to the dual ribs.
8 + 9. Ludwig Supraphonics, 6.5" and 5" depths. I love the 402, but it took me about 6 or 7 of the 400s to warm up to the shallower version. The dry body of the 402 is a classic sound, for sure, but the snappy crispness of the 400 is not too shabby, either.
10. DW/Craviotto. Such a wonderful tone from this drum. If you've played a Craviotto, you know what I'm talking about. Lots of tone.
11. ??? custom steambent red oak 14x6.5. I bought this from a local guy who started making his own shells. I don't know what it is about the red oak, but it sounds darker and woodier than most of my drums. Also, this drum is sensitive as all get out. When I play symphonic gigs, this is my go-to snare. The down side is the gaudy golden Ego lugs on it.
12. DW 14x4 Collector's (WMP). I've found the 5", 5.5", and 6.5" models I've owned to be too tubby. This one has just enough snap to it, with a nice cracky rimshot, that I've kept it around and used it on many gigs.
13. 1928 Slingerland solid mahogany ("gold sparkle"). This drum is something special. It was originally a Tone Flange model, but salvaged by a friend who removed the screws from the top bearing edge and cut it down past the screw holes, leaving a nice, clean and sharp bearing edge. The shell is solid mahogany, and it has an unreal tone to it. My favorite snare sound ever. Also, the wrap is original, and it was the very first kind of sparkle wrap used on a drum. It's not a glitter or a broken glass, but actually a laminate made with a bunch of fine grains of sand. Also, the brass tube lugs are all original, as is the throw off, but the throw off is a bit catchy, so I don't use it out on gigs where I need to throw the snares off (which is, unfortunately, most gigs).
14. 1926-27 Ludwig "Dance Model" 14x4 (chrome over brass). I managed to snag this 8-lug beauty from Revival Drums. Has that vintage, turn-of-the-century COB sound that you can't find in other drums. It's in really good shape, too.
15. Leedy/Ludwig 14x10 marching snare. I got this drum on a whim, and have used it on recordings where I wanted the absolute throatiest, deepest, woodiest snare sound available. It does the trick. I recently got to use it on a marching gig, playing 2nd Line snare with a group of 6 horns playing standards in the local coliseum, and it just filled up the room. Nice!
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Old 12-04-2012, 06:43 PM
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Wow.........nice collection of snares
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Very, very nice collection. Can you really ever have too many snares? Thanks for sharing.
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Beautiful collection Caddy.
My eye immediately goes to the green sparkle keystone badge Luddy with the baseball bat muffler. I'm thinking that one is quite rare?

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edit: just read the post, I'm an idiot, sorry. Obviously extremely rare, a pre-serial Auditorium.
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Beautiful collection Caddy.
My eye immediately goes to the green sparkle keystone badge Luddy with the baseball bat muffler. I'm thinking that one is quite rare?

Neal

edit: just read the post, I'm an idiot, sorry. Obviously extremely rare, a pre-serial Auditorium.
_1...Me too.There can't be a lot of those out there in green sparlke.It was a fairly unpopular color back then.The whole collection is beautiful,thanks for sharing.:)

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Very, very nice collection. Can you really ever have too many snares?
Well, yeah. I'm coming to a point in my life/career where I'm getting over having a huge arsenal of drums and cymbals. Sure, I love the variety, but I also have to store/move/maintain all of the drums. I'm not a collector, but I have a collection that I use. I had 28 snares before I did a recent "downsizing" this past summer and fall. Now I have 15, and I feel so much more "clutter free" than before. I hope to come to a point where I feel right about paring down to about 6 snares.

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Beautiful collection Caddy.
My eye immediately goes to the green sparkle keystone badge Luddy with the baseball bat muffler. I'm thinking that one is quite rare?

edit: ...Obviously extremely rare, a pre-serial Auditorium.
Yeah, as rare as pre-serial Auditoriums are, green sparkle is among the rare finishes from that era. It just didn't become very popular until the 70s. I also had a pre-serial, red sparkle Super Classic that didn't make the cut. I just couldn't get that drum to sound how I liked it, cool as it was.

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Let me know when you head over to Portland, OR, and you can come and sit on it and have a couple beers. It is VERY comfy! I'll even show you my ID and prove to you my name isn't Phil...
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It is a beautiful collection. Makes me feel so boring...I use one snare for EVERYTHING.

Could you post a pic of you holding your favorite snare? Mr. Mysterious?

JK Caddy, I respect your privacy. I can still poke you for it though. For all I know, you could be a 3 foot tall dark skinned pygmy woman.
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For all I know, you could be a 3 foot tall dark skinned pygmy woman.
Wait...have we actually met? How could you possibly know that?
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If I were ever in Portland, I'd be messaging you like mad to give me a few lessons.

Just so I could get close to a couple of those snares. The 1928 Slingerland is a real keeper. I think I remember you posting a thread about it and drooling somewhat when I saw it.

That's a great collection. It's a real 'Players' collection. I'm sure they all do get played too. I'd struggle to part with a few of those, they're all lovely.

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If I were ever in Portland, I'd be messaging you like mad to give me a few lessons.

Just so I could get close to a couple of those snares.
No lessons needed. If you were ever in Portland, I'd clear my teaching schedule that evening for a hang.

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The 1928 Slingerland is a real keeper. I think I remember you posting a thread about it and drooling somewhat when I saw it.
It IS a real keeper, for sure!

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That's a great collection. It's a real 'Players' collection. I'm sure they all do get played too. I'd struggle to part with a few of those, they're all lovely.
Yes, I play them all, some more than others. After I posted this thread, I was trying to figure out the next 3 on the chopping block. I'm finding that the less "stuff" I have, the more liberated I feel. But, with so many keepers, it's hard to choose.

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I'll keep calling you Phil because it amuses me! All the best madmen I know are called Phil.
Glad I could be a source of amusement for you. You know--come to think of it, most madmen I know have "Bacterium" somewhere in their nomenclature...
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:08 PM
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I'd get the first round in then, for sure.

I was looking at this thread and realised that I could never own that many snares. Right now I own three, of which only one is in any condition to play - the other two are in bits. It's a Guru 14"x5" Oak and it can do everything. Doesn't stop me wanting a 14"x7" Walnut though, which one day I will order from Andy. When I have the spare money - which isn't happening any time soon!

I did an assessment of my music room the other day too. Six guitars (two bass, two electric, two bass) three bass drums (in service), two sets of toms, an electric kit as well as numerous bits of percussion - you know the sort. I was thinking that I could definitely do with a clear out. I would keep the three serviceable bass drums (16", 20", 22") and one set of toms but I just cannot bring myself to throw it out. Pretty much all of it is worthless (heavily modified gear that has no value) and I'm one of those annoying people that's sentimental about his equipment.

I did manage to sell a snare the other week. I felt much better but I just cannot bring myself to get rid of my gear.
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I'm one of those annoying people that's sentimental about his equipment.

I did manage to sell a snare the other week. I felt much better but I just cannot bring myself to get rid of my gear.
Dude, I totally get it. I was considering getting rid of some stuff in the past couple of months, but as a classical percussionist, part of my mindset says, "It will come in handy someday..." For example, I was going to get rid of a really nice woodblock, since I always use Jam Blocks instead, but then I think about that possible symphonic gig coming down the pike where I would need it (you don't see any red and blue plastic blocks in the percussion sections of your local orchestras...). I couldn't bring myself to make an ad for it, even though getting rid of "clutter" has proven to make me feel better...it's a struggle.
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I have most of an old Export kit in the loft that I was given a few years ago in a state of disrepair. Some of it was made into a bop kit but the rest is sitting there, gathering dust. I cannot bring myself to sell it (given to me due to a bereavement) but I have little need to restore it because I don't have the money to sink into new hardware and I already have a very good 22"x16" bass drum. Stupid as it sounds, it's really quite a stressful situation because you know it's there and want to do something with it.

I'm quite fortunate in that I'm not an orchestral percussionist. If I were, my music room would be full of orphaned marimba bars, a half-built vibraphone and probably a cracked tympani or two. I live with my parents but I suspect that if I were an orchestral percussionist, I wouldn't. They'd have kicked me out a long time ago.

Incidentally, I can see a Jam Block in an orchestra. You'll just have to make sure that you have your helicopter ready to make an escape to your secret volcano lair.
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You're right, that DW nickel over brass is killer...:D
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A wonderful world of flavours there Caddy :) I like how disparate your collection is. Maybe worth swapping those gold lugs on the red oak steam bent for a nice set of chrome classic tubes? Wouldn't cost that much, & as you like the drum :)
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Nice collection Caddy! I have one of those Leedy marching snares in my old Leedy kit that I am putting together. I am using it as a floor tom. Mine is 15 x 12 with the Nickel hoops.
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Caddy with all those drums...do you tend to use the same head combo? Or does each drum have a preferred head you use for it? Like for me, all my snares get either a coated emp or a coated G2, ambassador snare side or Evans hazy 300 and Puresounds. I'm very boring like that. Are you boring like that too?
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So, Caddy, if you could just keep one, which one would it be? and why ?


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A wonderful world of flavours there Caddy :) I like how disparate your collection is. Maybe worth swapping those gold lugs on the red oak steam bent for a nice set of chrome classic tubes? Wouldn't cost that much, & as you like the drum :)
Actually, I had purchased one of those Pacific SX maple snares with the fat maple hoops because the hole spacing on the tube lugs was similar (like, within 1/8"). When I went to pop off one of the lugs on the red oak snare, I found out they are GLUED into the shell. Wasn't expecting that, and I'd ever seen that before!

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Caddy with all those drums...do you tend to use the same head combo? Or does each drum have a preferred head you use for it? Like for me, all my snares get either a coated emp or a coated G2, ambassador snare side or Evans hazy 300 and Puresounds. I'm very boring like that. Are you boring like that too?
I have a set of heads, specifically for when I get a new snare, that I swap out to try different batter heads on each snare. There's a Coated Ambassador, Evans Dry, Powerstroke, Coated Emperor, Renaissance, and Fiberskyn in that set. I mostly end up using a Coated Ambassador, but a few of the drums prefer a Coated Emperor. If they're in good shape, I usually just keep the original reso and snares on the drum, but retuned and re-calibrated.

You *could* think of it as being boring, but I like to think of it as being the best-sounding option.

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So, Caddy, if you could just keep one, which one would it be? and why ?
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That's like asking a painter if he could only use one color, what would it be?

But, since you asked, it would be the Slingerland Cloud Badge, hands down. Since it would then be my primary/only drum, I would switch out the throw off to make it 100% functional.
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You re-calibrate snare wires? What does that mean?
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Always said your taste in drums ticked all the right boxes, Your Cadship.......that snare collection is no exception. I know you're unlikely to stop there, so I may as well ask......what's next?
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You re-calibrate snare wires? What does that mean?
You know, like making sure they tension how you want them to, and making sure they're tensioned evenly (and not cockeyed and diagonal). If not, removing the wires and reattaching them the proper way. I can imagine the previous owner of a snare having to reattach the snares, either after they replace the reso head or if a string or strap breaks, and not knowing how to do it right. Seen it on many snares I've gotten. I was there once, too. I guess one of the good parts about having so many snares travel through your hands is getting a lot of experience with maintenance work.

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Always said your taste in drums ticked all the right boxes, Your Cadship.......that snare collection is no exception. I know you're unlikely to stop there, so I may as well ask......what's next?
Honestly, I hope I'm done. I'm already trying to figure out how to reduce my selection even more. I like hearing other drums, but when I hear a snare I like, I think, "Man, that sounds like my ___________ snare." When I find something unique, I will probably pick it up. Until then, this is all a want/need. I hope that the 2013 snare thread will be mostly made up of the same drums, but with less total. Which drum(s) to put on the chopping block...THAT is the hard part now!
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Actually, I had purchased one of those Pacific SX maple snares with the fat maple hoops because the hole spacing on the tube lugs was similar (like, within 1/8"). When I went to pop off one of the lugs on the red oak snare, I found out they are GLUED into the shell. Wasn't expecting that, and I'd ever seen that before!
That is most unusual, & also of no benefit whatsoever. Bummer if you need to change/replace a lug. You could probably break down that glue without too much trouble (depending on what it is), but maybe it's easier to learn to love the gold finish ;)
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