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Old 08-28-2008, 01:16 AM
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I love them all but for me Scenes From A Memory is a masterpiece!

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Old 08-28-2008, 05:33 PM
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dream theater is a great band!! but so much respect for mike !! he is crazy :p:p ;);)
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Old 10-17-2008, 11:30 PM
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Any body else pick up Dream Theater's new DVD Chaos in Motion? inspiring or what?
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Old 10-30-2008, 05:29 AM
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yeah just picked it up! talk about inspiring I was at the Toronto show on there 4th row from the stage center. now....That was inspiring! hahaha awsome band, awomse drumming, gotta love em.
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Old 10-30-2008, 10:37 PM
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I believe Mike Portnoy is one of the best drummers out in a touring band right now. His playing is creative and precise. I always thought he was amazing listening to their different CD's but when I bought the Mike Portnoy Anthology book I was blown away. There are so many more hidden notes and rudiments that you stumble upon in the book that are hard to catch on their recordings. It was a great learning experience.

I just think overall musically the band is amazing. I have been to three of their shows and they never mess up. You listen to their live recordings and they never mess up or are sloppy. Everything is played precise. The craziest thing about it is they are usually playing 3hr.+ long sets. Seriously, to be able to play the music they do and be close to flawless for 3+hrs. is nothing but amazing.

So yes, I suppose he is high up on the list for my favorites. :)
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Old 11-14-2008, 07:59 PM
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Ive been a fan of DT for a long time. DT is the greatest band ever live so far in this planet. There style varies alot from other bands yet, keeping the elements that make them be DT like the odd times and fast shredding solos. Ive heard many bands and no one like them. No one. The rest of the bands I can say they sound the same in all there albums. DT's music structure is unbelievable. TOT 3 weeks to write!!!!!???? GOD DAM. What band in this world does that.

As per MP, I admire him. I have all his collections of signature series. Good drummer. I repect his playing and musicality towards DT and further projects. I can say that he is not the best or the worst, or better than Tony Royster or Thomas Lang. His style is unique and thats what makes him one of the best in his line up (category).

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Old 11-15-2008, 02:50 AM
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. TOT 3 weeks to write!!!!!???? GOD DAM. What band in this world does that.

Adios...
I have to say that the more albums they keep turning out, the more it sounds like it's taking them a few weeks to make them. They've found a formula which they tweak here and there to produce a new album. DT are a band that's coasting, and doing very nicely out of it too. It's a shame they don't still have the musical curiosity they showed on 'Awake'.
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Old 11-15-2008, 02:59 AM
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I have to say that the more albums they keep turning out, the more it sounds like it's taking them a few weeks to make them. They've found a formula which they tweak here and there to produce a new album. DT are a band that's coasting, and doing very nicely out of it too. It's a shame they don't still have the musical curiosity they showed on 'Awake'.
awake wasn't the best album from DT. and yes it took them more time to produce but thats because there skills of writing music so quick wasn't strong enough like now. Six Degrees was another amazing album and better than awake (in my opinion) and it didnt take them as much as Awake.
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Old 11-15-2008, 03:00 AM
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I have to say that the more albums they keep turning out, the more it sounds like it's taking them a few weeks to make them. They've found a formula which they tweak here and there to produce a new album. DT are a band that's coasting, and doing very nicely out of it too. It's a shame they don't still have the musical curiosity they showed on 'Awake'.
Well, I agree in part. "Train" was a sledgehammer. I love it to death. "octavarium" was middling to me, but "Systematic" was a step back into a grittier realm. I admit I enjoy thier latter efforts a bit more than you do, but agree they aren't as original sounding as previous efforts.
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Old 11-17-2008, 01:55 AM
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Old 11-17-2008, 02:00 AM
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awake wasn't the best album from DT. and yes it took them more time to produce but thats because there skills of writing music so quick wasn't strong enough like now. Six Degrees was another amazing album and better than awake (in my opinion) and it didnt take them as much as Awake.
I wonder whether it's more that they're thinking with more business acumen - they've settled on a sound that works as a trademark and pleases a certain fanbase, young men with a passion for the internet perhaps. It seems that they have two fanbases, one for the earlier material and one for the latter.
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Old 06-03-2009, 06:25 AM
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Personally I believe that Mike Portnoy is one of the more tallented drummers that I've come across in a long time. He is a pretty technical drummer and seems to be a jack of all trades type of drummer.

Which is what I enjoy about him.

I don't believe MP and DT rip off other bands, but that if there is other things that they learn from other bands they use it. The way I see it, without seeming like some hippy tripping on acid, is that part of the allure of music is due to it almost being infinite. One drummer or musician is not capable of coming up with every single tiny minute concept. That's what makes music so great, every serious musician has something that they can bring to the stage. Its not a competition on who is the better drummer, but every drummer that has different tricks, tips, and knacks that other drummers can learn from.

I mean I guarantee that's what most of you all do as drummers. You learn through listening to other drummers play.

Mike Portnoy might not be a pro at odd time sigs, he might not be the fastest drummer, the best double bass drummer, but he has a very strong foundation in all of that. So who cares if he's not the best.

In music, and drumming, the best music and drums is not necessarily always the most technical concept that can be played with ease. Sometimes simplicity is necessary and best. Just like in the military sometimes keeping the plans very simple is the best way to get things done. What I enjoy about MP drumming is that after studying him for probably about 5 years now, I've found that his drumming is in reality is typically not that hard to play. But he does seem to have a special intuition in the music he writes. Some of his drumming is very simple, but very few people would of thought of playing a song like that.

Great example, the song "the Mirror" off of Awake album. Petrucci the guitarist plays a simple lick practically though out the whole song as MP is playing simple drum beats. But what he does to change the entire feel of the song is change the time signatures or alter the drum beat instead of focusing on down beats to up beats. He is capable of coming up with things that in reality are very simple, that most drummers would have missed. MP has very strong base knowledge of music theory that really works for this band.
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Old 06-03-2009, 12:35 PM
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It seems that they have two fanbases, one for the earlier material and one for the latter.
I think so too. I myself lean towards their earlier material, I actually enjoyed When Dream and Day Unite (their 1st album with Charlie Dominici on vocals) most. Six Degrees is a masterpiece, but Train of Thought, despite having some great stuff on there, had a tendency for the songs being too long and repetitive.
In my point of view it all went downhill from there. Some good music on Octavarium and Systematic Chaos, but as a whole it's beginning to sound like more of the same to me.
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Old 06-03-2009, 06:17 PM
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I think so too. I myself lean towards their earlier material, I actually enjoyed When Dream and Day Unite (their 1st album with Charlie Dominici on vocals) most. Six Degrees is a masterpiece, but Train of Thought, despite having some great stuff on there, had a tendency for the songs being too long and repetitive.
In my point of view it all went downhill from there. Some good music on Octavarium and Systematic Chaos, but as a whole it's beginning to sound like more of the same to me.
Personally, I've never been much a fan of When Dream and Day Unite. I think it has a few good songs on there and some good concepts, but it has too much of an 80's feel to it that I'm not much of a fan of.

It does seem though that DT is moving towards a more heavier side now. But never the less I always find interesting new concepts that I've never thought of in all their albums.

But Six Degrees is definatlly a masterpiece, I could not agree more.

Also Metropolis pt. 2 I think is also a master piece. Its very rare to find a band that is capable of telling a full on story or play through their music.
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Old 06-04-2009, 01:23 AM
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MP and DT kick A!!

Any protege' of NP HAS to have the sense to know quality drumming when he hears/see it.


And that's NOT to say that Mike Portnoy hasn't established his own style, influence and following. 'Cause he most certainly has!

He's fantastic in his own right!

Period.

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Old 06-21-2009, 04:02 PM
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Dream Theater and Mike are awesome! Definitely one of my favorite bands and drummers.
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Old 06-22-2009, 08:19 PM
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Not a fan, sorry. In that style of play I prefer Virgil Donati. Ok, Mike is a great drummer, but I don't find his drumming attractive, it's a matter of taste
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Old 07-07-2009, 04:09 PM
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This band, HAKEN, have a lot of DT influences.

Our first couple of demos have received a great response and are featured on the myspace page www.myspace.com/hakenmusic

We're currently working on developing our own sound in the form of our debut album to be released Jan 2010. I would say we definitely share that element of intense technical prog metal with DT and wouldn't sound like we do if it weren't for such an incredibly inovative band (including of course Mr Mike Portnoy!)
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Old 07-11-2009, 03:46 AM
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I met him! He's a pretty nice guy actually.

Plays just a bit too busy in my opinion, but can play AMAZING things!
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Old 07-11-2009, 07:42 AM
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Their new album is amazing. A lot more "metal" than most of their other albums, but it still is great. A Nightmare To Remember, my favorite song, is just mindblowing.
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the sight on tama where ur s'posed to be able to see his new kit doesnt work. But anyway...Hes a really awesome drummer!
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Old 07-23-2009, 01:43 AM
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I have to go get the full CD, but I purchased two tracks from Dream Theater's new album last week. I really like the song "A Rite of Passage."
My favorite Dream Theater album is Awake, but this new one sounds like it is great too!

I've met Mike Portnoy a long time ago after a show. He seems like a cool guy.
I hope Mike keeps doing instructional videos, and drum clinics.
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Old 07-23-2009, 04:38 AM
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Personally I believe that Mike Portnoy is one of the more tallented drummers that I've come across in a long time.
That pretty much conveys everything I'm about to say. I'm not picking a fight with you, but I guess you live under a rock. The guy has been playing the same crappy solo since the 90's he has not gotten any better. Plus, besides his slump of not ever getting any better, the guy isn't very friendly. I live in the same town he grew up in that is how I know that. He's not one of the elite drummers out right now, there are so many better then him. If this was said on his little "forum" he would edit your post and ban you because that's the way that he is. He's over rated and could never compete with real drummers such as Gavin Harrison, Morgan Ågren, Thomas Haake and many many more. Sorry.
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Old 07-25-2009, 03:03 AM
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That pretty much conveys everything I'm about to say. I'm not picking a fight with you, but I guess you live under a rock. The guy has been playing the same crappy solo since the 90's he has not gotten any better. Plus, besides his slump of not ever getting any better, the guy isn't very friendly. I live in the same town he grew up in that is how I know that. He's not one of the elite drummers out right now, there are so many better then him. If this was said on his little "forum" he would edit your post and ban you because that's the way that he is. He's over rated and could never compete with real drummers such as Gavin Harrison, Morgan Ågren, Thomas Haake and many many more. Sorry.
I have to agree. I personally don't like what Dream Theater is all about at all, I think they focused so much on the "complexity" of their songs that they don't really remember what musicality means. Not to mention Portnoy gets the prize for biggest ego in that band...and his stuff has gotten old ages ago. Got to give him some credit though, I don't understand how he memorizes those songs...I mean, we're talking about 25 minute + songs with tons of different parts and time signatures. It's sad to see so many young players look up to him so much, when he really didn't invent anything and his style isn't very special musically. It's very stupid music (in my opinion).

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Old 07-26-2009, 08:52 PM
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That pretty much conveys everything I'm about to say. I'm not picking a fight with you, but I guess you live under a rock. The guy has been playing the same crappy solo since the 90's he has not gotten any better. Plus, besides his slump of not ever getting any better, the guy isn't very friendly. I live in the same town he grew up in that is how I know that. He's not one of the elite drummers out right now, there are so many better then him. If this was said on his little "forum" he would edit your post and ban you because that's the way that he is. He's over rated and could never compete with real drummers such as Gavin Harrison, Morgan Ågren, Thomas Haake and many many more. Sorry.
I understand your opinion. Maybe I should retract that statement earlier. I don't necessarily believe that he is a power house. But to me many talented drummers out there are very good at a very limited aspect of drumming (Just to give one quick example, Joey Jordison and no I'm not a fan of slipknot, is a power house when it comes to double bass drumming, but that's about all he has going for himself). What I find very impressive about Mike Portnoy is the fact that he seems to have a strong foundation in many various aspects of drumming. He's not the fastest double bass drummer, but he has a good foundation in double bass drumming. He's pretty good at mastering odd time sig songs and transitioning into the various time signatures. He has a pretty descent knowledge of music theory which in my opinion allows him to be a team player with the rest of the band. Yah, there's a lot of drumming in DT music, but everyone else such as Petrucci and Ruddess (sp?) all have ample opportunities to express their instruments as well.
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Old 07-26-2009, 11:48 PM
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That pretty much conveys everything I'm about to say. I'm not picking a fight with you, but I guess you live under a rock. The guy has been playing the same crappy solo since the 90's he has not gotten any better. Plus, besides his slump of not ever getting any better, the guy isn't very friendly. I live in the same town he grew up in that is how I know that. He's not one of the elite drummers out right now, there are so many better then him. If this was said on his little "forum" he would edit your post and ban you because that's the way that he is. He's over rated and could never compete with real drummers such as Gavin Harrison, Morgan Ågren, Thomas Haake and many many more. Sorry.
I'm just gonna add my personal opinion on this, just as you did.

When I see Mike Portnoy live (or in dvds), I get the feeling he's playing with passion. Then, honestly, I don't care about his personal life, he's a model as a musician to me, not as a person. But, I don't really think he's an unfriendly person.

Now, about his drumming skills, I think he's very good, very creative when playing DT songs; he inspired me a lot and I respect him for giving me an open minded approach when creating drum parts and song structures.

Let me add that he also works on many other things besides just drumming, so I don't blame him for not being playing as fast as any elite drummer out there, I believe he's not aiming for that, but to keep creating great music.

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Old 07-27-2009, 12:41 AM
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That pretty much conveys everything I'm about to say. I'm not picking a fight with you, but I guess you live under a rock. The guy has been playing the same crappy solo since the 90's he has not gotten any better. Plus, besides his slump of not ever getting any better, the guy isn't very friendly. I live in the same town he grew up in that is how I know that. He's not one of the elite drummers out right now, there are so many better then him. If this was said on his little "forum" he would edit your post and ban you because that's the way that he is. He's over rated and could never compete with real drummers such as Gavin Harrison, Morgan Ågren, Thomas Haake and many many more. Sorry.
I don't this attitude of if you pay a compliment to drummer A, you are somehow insulting drummer B, C, or D. Saying a drummer is "talented" does not equal saying someone is "the best' or automatically "better than" everyone else.

And you really think if you insult someone on their website, they're not going to boot you?
Got to any website message board and insult the owner, and see how long you last. LOL.

Since when is drumming a competition anyway? I don't recall Portnoy every claiming he is/was completing with anyone. Is there a prize for the winner now? Is drumming an Olympic event now? Will this competition be televised along with the SuperBowl?

I've met Mike 1/2 dozen times over the years. He's always seemed like a nice guy. He's pretty humble when he does talk about other drummers, and he doesn't consider himself in the same league as some of the names mentioned. So what? But he's also a very driven individual, and admits he's very OCD, which I suppose could rub some people wrong.
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I understand your opinion. Maybe I should retract that statement earlier. I don't necessarily believe that he is a power house. But to me many talented drummers out there are very good at a very limited aspect of drumming (Just to give one quick example, Joey Jordison and no I'm not a fan of slipknot, is a power house when it comes to double bass drumming, but that's about all he has going for himself). What I find very impressive about Mike Portnoy is the fact that he seems to have a strong foundation in many various aspects of drumming. He's not the fastest double bass drummer, but he has a good foundation in double bass drumming. He's pretty good at mastering odd time sig songs and transitioning into the various time signatures. He has a pretty descent knowledge of music theory which in my opinion allows him to be a team player with the rest of the band. Yah, there's a lot of drumming in DT music, but everyone else such as Petrucci and Ruddess (sp?) all have ample opportunities to express their instruments as well.

I don't feel like typing out a whole essay again, but if you think Joey Jordison is a "power house" at double bass then you have a lot to discover, bub.


These following two videos are just ice breakers.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOaJS1yg6v4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC-4ZRkVnOM


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc98u-eGzlc
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I'm just gonna add my personal opinion on this, just as you did.

When I see Mike Portnoy live (or in dvds), I get the feeling he's playing with passion. Then, honestly, I don't care about his personal life, he's a model as a musician to me, not as a person. But, I don't really think he's an unfriendly person.

Now, about his drumming skills, I think he's very good, very creative when playing DT songs; he inspired me a lot and I respect him for giving me an open minded approach when creating drum parts and song structures.

Let me add that he also works on many other things besides just drumming, so I don't blame him for not being playing as fast as any elite drummer out there, I believe he's not aiming for that, but to keep creating great music.

Just my honest opinion.
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I don't feel like typing out a whole essay again, but if you think Joey Jordison is a "power house" at double bass then you have a lot to discover, bub.


These following two videos are just ice breakers.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOaJS1yg6v4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC-4ZRkVnOM


Now for the real stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc98u-eGzlc
Your right there are faster double bass drummers out there and I stand corrected. That was the first example that came to mind.
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Old 07-29-2009, 01:54 PM
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i found a mike portnoy interview and a little workshop w/ him (in person!) on a German site called bonedo... the videos are in English, so we all understand it anyway... :D

here is the link: http://www.bonedo.de/feature/allgeme...tml?no_cache=1
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Old 09-15-2009, 09:31 PM
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Has anybody heard Black Clouds and Silver Linings? Man he just tears it up on that album he does some fantastic playing on that.
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Old 09-15-2009, 10:03 PM
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Has anybody heard Black Clouds and Silver Linings? Man he just tears it up on that album he does some fantastic playing on that.
Not my favorite Dream theater album (and I've been a huge fan since 92).

But I have to say it sounds like Portnoy had been practicing before recording this one, which is only odd given how often he says he never practices anymore!
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Not my favorite Dream theater album (and I've been a huge fan since 92).

But I have to say it sounds like Portnoy had been practicing before recording this one, which is only odd given how often he says he never practices anymore!


Who know he might have been but he did some awesome playing on a Nightmare to Remember there was some cool stuff that was done there.
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Old 10-22-2009, 03:16 AM
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I don't think Portnoy practices as much as he just keeps getting better with time and with more playing that he does just like anyone else I mean if thats all you do your bound to get better and better. Of course practice always helps though.
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Not my favorite Dream theater album (and I've been a huge fan since 92).

But I have to say it sounds like Portnoy had been practicing before recording this one, which is only odd given how often he says he never practices anymore!
I wouldn't have thought he needed to practice. Since DT joined Roadrunner, they have done 2 year long tours, interspersed with studio time. As with other bands, Roadrunner have these guys on the road for such a long time that the tour becomes the practice.
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Actually, yeah, it does seem that he's gotten cleaner for Black Clouds. But I think he's gotten into the same rut as the rest of the band (resting on their laurels, more or less), but A Nightmare to Remember kills me. It's a tough song on the feet if you ask me, but I'm no double-bass technician.

MP was my second drum hero after Neil Peart, and I still come back to Dream Theater and enjoy most of it. Regardless of what people say, I find a lot of substance in the music (don't get me wrong, some songs are wankalicious, but definitely not all of them) and I like the music as a whole, rather than being into it just for the drums. In other words, I got into the band for MP, but stayed for John Petrucci.

He does have one big stylistic characteristic (some people would call it a flaw), which would be his constantly accented 1. No matter what the time signature is, he almost always lands on 1. There are a couple exceptions, like a a couple times in Voices and Learning to Live, but overall, he lands on 1 every time without any playing over the bar line. And most of the time it works for the music.

Not to mention that his drums sound great... sometimes.

AND the new Transatlantic album is fantastic.
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Old 11-21-2009, 11:54 PM
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I have been a Dream Theater/Mike Portnoy fan for years...
For the music in Dream Theater, Mike is like a frount man... not to montion the drumming
wich i think SFAM (scenes from a memory) and SDoIT (Six Degrees of Inner Turbulance) was his best drumming in DT. I stress whan people say, "whoah, he has a waaaaayyy too big kit" because, if you look up on MP and his kits (monsters), it 2 kits made into one, its just a usual Metal kit, mixed in with a jazzy/proggy fusion kit...

I also love MPs LTE (liquid Tention Experimen with: MP, John Petrucci, Tony Levin and Jordan Rudess.) The size down totaly work for LTE and i love it, as many DT/MP fans may know MP loves his cymbals and are a great addion to MPs kits. IMO they bring wis kit alive, with a range of crashes and slashes the sounds he makes just fits everytime.

MP (IMO) is the best drummer since maybe john bonham or Keith Moon...
But, i know he cannot please everyone, thoughs who are not into the "prog" scene (witch is ALOT atm.) will not take note to him. but, i strongly suggest listening to a variaty of MP music (DT, LTE, OSI, Trans Atlantic etc.) Thats my take on MP :)

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Holy hell this guy works his ass off!!! Now he is in the studio with Avenged Sevenfold when does he not stop! Plus I'm almost even more excited to see what Mike is gonna sound like with them in the studio.
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The other night I was watching Mike Portnoy on The Metal Show, he seems to be an open and nice fellow to talk to.
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