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Old 09-30-2012, 12:24 AM
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Default Best way to keep a bass drum from moving

Ok so I have a gig today and I just finished sound check.. problem is, my darn bass drum won't sit still.. I wrapped the legs with duct tape and its fine now but I'm curious.. what's the best way to keep a bass drum from moving?
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Old 09-30-2012, 12:43 AM
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Put it on a rug. Peace and goodwill.
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Old 09-30-2012, 04:17 AM
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Is the bassdrum lifted with it's legs, so that the drum is only resting at 3 points? Mine never moves, I have a thick rug for the drumkit.

Edit: Oh, saw that it was in a gig situation. Tie the drum to your drum stool :)
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Old 09-30-2012, 04:42 AM
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A drum rug certainly helps. I traveled with one, always in my ride. If I needed a rug for on stage, I had one. If the stage had a decent carpet, then it stayed in the ride. Better safe than sorry. But .... the list of "variables" to this musical question, is many.
Some kicks (spur systems) simply aren't designed as well as others. This is especially true with vintage drums.
Not all carpet is equal. I've been on carpeted surfaces that had no grip capabilities, at all. And, as Sjogras mentioned, I've literally tied my kick to my throne, being no other "quick fix" available.
My most favorite combo ..... a kick pedal with enough velcro under it, to anchor it to the drum rug .... and of course, a drum rug that grips like velcro.
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Old 09-30-2012, 07:00 AM
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Decent quality rug (berber) on sale at a home improvment store.
Roll up, place in transport vehicle.
EXTEND SPURS on BD legs.
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Old 09-30-2012, 10:37 AM
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I always keep some of these (sandbags) in different sizes and weights in the van just in case there's a problem with equipment movement, instability or balance. They're a quick and easy fix for a variety of situations. A ten or fifteen pound bag in front of each spur will stop it from walking.



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Old 09-30-2012, 06:14 PM
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Oh yeah, almost forgot about that rope trick...

Tie each bass drum spur to one of the throne legs.
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Old 10-01-2012, 06:17 AM
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A carpet and very sharp drum spurs.
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Old 10-05-2012, 08:21 PM
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Gibraltar makes a bass drum anchor that mounts to the front hoop - Gibraltar part # SC-4402. These anchors work very well as long as your bass drum is on carpet. I still have several of the anchors that were manufactured by the Ludwig Drum Co. years ago, and they still work.

Although the anchors work very well, I have found I do not need them on my newer kits. Most newer bass drums have spurs that are designed much better than the old ones. Once again, they work if you are on carpet. Just don't set up on a bare gym floor or any nice wood floor without a piece of carpet under the bass drum (or whole kit). The spurs and the add-on anchors have rubber tips, but they are not as effective as the spiked ends.
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Old 10-05-2012, 09:34 PM
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I use my keyboard amp, that thing is darn heavy for its size.
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:06 PM
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Ok so I have a gig today and I just finished sound check.. problem is, my darn bass drum won't sit still.. I wrapped the legs with duct tape and its fine now but I'm curious.. what's the best way to keep a bass drum from moving?
What's really happening here is your pedal is moving, its not really the bass drums fault.

You need to anchor the pedal.
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What's really happening here is your pedal is moving, its not really the bass drums fault.

You need to anchor the pedal.
Very true. If you restrain the pedal, the drum won't move. Only the pedal is getting pressure applied to it - not the drum itself.

I use a small olefin mat, which has a short nappy top and tough rubber edging and bottom - the kind of rug used in banks and restaurants. It holds onto the scratchy Velcro on the bottom of the pedal incredibly well. The small rug is just big enough to reach my pedal, hihat and stool, which are the only things really at risk of scooting away. If I am playing on carpet then I don't even need the olefin mat.

I ordered my bass drum without spurs and I have a low cradle in front for stability. The Velcro bond under the pedal is the ONLY thing keeping my bass drum in place and it never, ever moves.
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Old 10-07-2012, 07:19 PM
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Park an elephant in front of it.
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Old 10-08-2012, 09:49 PM
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Take off the front head. Drill some 1/2 x6'' lag bolts through the shell into the floor. Replace front head. You said the best way, not the most practical.
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Very true. If you restrain the pedal, the drum won't move. Only the pedal is getting pressure applied to it - not the drum itself.
The beater applies plenty of pressure to the head, at least the way I play. My bass drum moves independently of my pedal all the time. I haven't found a reasonable solution though. I my try the sand bags.
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Old 10-09-2012, 07:27 AM
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Pay the drum's rent so it won't have to move.
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The beater applies plenty of pressure to the head, at least the way I play. My bass drum moves independently of my pedal all the time. I haven't found a reasonable solution though. I my try the sand bags.
Yeah, I see what you're saying there. So just keep the pedal clamped tightly to the hoop and you shouldn't have any problems. Sandbags might work, but they look goofy and will slide around too.

If you're on a slick surface like vinyl or hardwood, you need to bring you own "surface" like a small rug and make sure the scratchy Velcro on the bottom of the pedal is contacting the fuzzy nap of the rug. If your drum is securely clamped to your pedal, the drum will never move.

Really, with pedals and a nappy rug, I don't think it is ever necessary to use spikes or anything else. I haven't in years.
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Old 10-10-2012, 08:28 PM
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Old 10-12-2012, 12:51 AM
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Bonham's tech used to drill a hole in the front/resonant bass drum hoop and bolted the bass drum to the riser. Sounds good, that is, if you pack your own riser along with the rest of your gear to each gig ;)
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Old 11-02-2012, 01:45 PM
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If your drum is securely clamped to your pedal, the drum will never move.

Yup, pretty obvious... 'if' your pedal is clamped to the BD, the BD cannot move unless your pedal moves.

You need to secure your pedal.
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:01 AM
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I use a fairly good size brick ( not a cinder block) covered in carpet. I use contact adhesive to glue the carpet on the brick. I like darker colored carpet since it doesn't draw attention to it. Plus it's funny to see a guitar player trip over it if he gets too close and wants to put his sweaty hands on my cymbals.
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In anticipation of gigging out soon I've purchased a drum mat and to go along with the drum mat I purchased a product called Kickstop from a company called Baskey. This keeps the kick from moving. I also went one step further and pick up their Mattmarkers. My goal was to keep the kick from moving and to be able to tear down and setup quickly with consistent results. For my taste its a great product.

Baskey Kickstop and MattMarkers
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Old 01-18-2013, 07:04 PM
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If your drum is securely clamped to your pedal, the drum will never move.

Yup, pretty obvious... 'if' your pedal is clamped to the BD, the BD cannot move unless your pedal moves.

You need to secure your pedal.
this, of course, is assuming that he is using a pedal...
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Old 01-18-2013, 07:19 PM
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If your drum is securely clamped to your pedal, the drum will never move.

Yup, pretty obvious... 'if' your pedal is clamped to the BD, the BD cannot move unless your pedal moves.

You need to secure your pedal.
This, and I used to employ the spurs built-in to the pedal base as well. When those dig into the floor, with the pedal securely attached to the hoop, I've never had a problem with bass drum creep. Obviously if you're on a hard tile floor, you may still need a rug of some kind - and I noticed that it doesn't have to be very big. If it's basically under the bass drum pedal and extends back under your throne, that's all you really need. So, a strip of carpeting about two-feet wide and about three-feet long?
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Old 01-18-2013, 07:24 PM
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My most favorite combo ..... a kick pedal with enough velcro under it, to anchor it to the drum rug .... and of course, a drum rug that grips like velcro.
+1 for this. NASA technology for drums.
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