DRUMMERWORLD OFFICIAL DISCUSSION FORUM   

Go Back   DRUMMERWORLD OFFICIAL DISCUSSION FORUM > Your Place > Your Gear

Your Gear Show your Gear - Pictures - Descriptions

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 09-25-2012, 06:50 PM
Anthony Amodeo
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default my 1966 Gretsch round badge

I finally made the plunge.
stumbled upon this one locally.
20 , 12, 14 ...Champagne Sparkle
the guy was the original owner who gigged with it in the 60s and got a good job in the early 70s and has had this set up in the very finished basement I pulled it out of this morning since then.

this thing is gorgeous

all original except for the cymbal L arm and the heads
even the Jimmy Pratt kick muffling system is still in tact
the L arm that is on it is an old Slingerland I believe.
I plan to get a nice 60s Gretsch L arm off ebay.
it is also missing the kick drum badge but I just ordered an original bass drum badge that should be here in a few days

I also plan to get all stands from the same era and a kick pedal as well.
the guy who I bought it from also threw in the Ludwig Speed King kick pedal that he used with the kit...but the bearings are a little seized up.

I'll take more pics when she is complete....for now here she is as I bought her


Last edited by Anthony Amodeo; 09-25-2012 at 07:50 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-25-2012, 08:15 PM
wsabol's Avatar
wsabol wsabol is online now
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 1,398
Default Re: my 1966 Gretsch round badge

Holy mackerel. Those drums are taken straight out of a dream. My sincerest congratulations. You are a lucky man.
__________________
"Lay the backbeat home."
-Donny Hathaway

Last edited by wsabol; 09-25-2012 at 10:16 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-25-2012, 08:20 PM
Anthony Amodeo
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: my 1966 Gretsch round badge

Quote:
Originally Posted by wsabol View Post
Holy mackerel. Those drums are taking straight out of a dream. My sincerest congratulations. You are a lucky man.
thank you brother

I definitely feel lucky

I am so excited out this kit

and let me tell you....it sounds unbelievable

I am so excited about slowly getting pieces like a Gretsch kick pedal and hat stand ....and cymbal stand all from the same era .....it is now my little project to get this thing looking as it would in the 60s

I forgot to mention in the OP that this gentlemen threw in the seat that he got with the kit you can see the top in the pic ....so sweet

as I was pulling out of his driveway this morning he stood under his open garage door with the saddest look on his face

I almost felt bad taking it from him
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-25-2012, 08:59 PM
NerfLad's Avatar
NerfLad NerfLad is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 659
Default Re: my 1966 Gretsch round badge

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gvdadrummasum View Post
I almost felt bad taking it from him
Almost :)__________________________________________________ __
__________________
Not banned (yet)
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-25-2012, 09:02 PM
brentcn brentcn is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 871
Default Re: my 1966 Gretsch round badge

Those are superb GVA! Beware installing the kick badge, because modern grommeting tools can be too big and/or too forceful for the job of installing it. Use extreme care, and don't let anyone touch it without you standing next to them. You risk denting or splitting the badge, or even the shell.

It might be a good idea to "pre-cut" the part of the grommet that goes into the shell, so that it can splay out easily. Not sure if metal snippers will do the job though.

No matching snare, huh? Probably a good thing, mine is not as sensitive or as versatile as a modern snare.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-25-2012, 09:21 PM
Anthony Amodeo
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: my 1966 Gretsch round badge

Quote:
Originally Posted by NerfLad View Post
Almost :)__________________________________________________ __
key word.....Almost

:)
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-25-2012, 09:23 PM
Anthony Amodeo
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: my 1966 Gretsch round badge

Quote:
Originally Posted by brentcn View Post
Those are superb GVA! Beware installing the kick badge, because modern grommeting tools can be too big and/or too forceful for the job of installing it. Use extreme care, and don't let anyone touch it without you standing next to them. You risk denting or splitting the badge, or even the shell.

It might be a good idea to "pre-cut" the part of the grommet that goes into the shell, so that it can splay out easily. Not sure if metal snippers will do the job though.

No matching snare, huh? Probably a good thing, mine is not as sensitive or as versatile as a modern snare.

do you have experience installing the bass drum badge?

the one I bought is an original 60s badge that comes with the factory grommet ...but I have no idea how to install it

....no...no matching snare....I plan to get a nice 60s Gretsch snare to go with it at some point....that will probably be the last piece of the vintage puzzle though
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-25-2012, 09:58 PM
dmacc's Avatar
dmacc dmacc is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 2,404
Default Re: my 1966 Gretsch round badge

Congratulations Anthony! That's a wonderful, wonderful opportunity to have happened.

Enjoy them as much as I know you'll take care of and respect them.

I need to go mop up my drool now...
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-25-2012, 10:02 PM
caddywumpus's Avatar
caddywumpus caddywumpus is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Portland, OR USA
Posts: 5,589
Default Re: my 1966 Gretsch round badge

NICE! Congrats! Looks groovy!
__________________
Be vewwy quiet, I'm hunting Lawwy

My kit: http://drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44195
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-25-2012, 11:02 PM
larryace's Avatar
larryace larryace is offline
"Uncle Larry"
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: In beautiful Bucks County, PA
Posts: 13,578
Default Re: my 1966 Gretsch round badge

Stunning Anthony. You deserve these. You have earned the privilege to possess these. There's only so many round badge Gretsch kits and you have one. Heartfelt congratulations my man, heartfelt congratulations. I can only imagine how satisfied you must feel.

But the big question is....Are you going to gig them? Well are you?
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 09-25-2012, 11:17 PM
harryconway's Avatar
harryconway harryconway is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Pasadena, California, U.S.A.
Posts: 9,222
Default Re: my 1966 Gretsch round badge

Welcome to the Gretsch RB owners club. Nice tubs. I know exactly how those sound. Sweet, indeed.
About the badge/grommet thang, I was told that the kicks were only press fit. There's no flange inside the drum. Now, I haven't seen enough RB kicks to say if that's true, or not. Mine's the only one I've seen inside of, and that's the way it is (and it hasn't fallen off, yet).
Oh, how much did you score those for?
__________________
This seat does not recline as per Federal Aviation Regulation 121.310 (f)(3)
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 09-26-2012, 12:14 AM
Anthony Amodeo
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: my 1966 Gretsch round badge

@ uncle Larry - thank you very much sir...I am extremely excited and satisfied about these.
I will be even more satisfied once I gather up enough money to get a flat bottom cymbal stand,and hi hat stand, and snare stand form the very same era ....then eventually a snare.
...and no I won't be gigging with this gem...she will sit in my drum room and get buffed with a diaper :)

@ Harry - thanks for the welcome...proud to be part of the fam.
yeah from the pics I saw of the badge and grommet it looked like it just slid in the hole.
I was thinking of maybe fastening it with a small dab of a gentle glue if it was too loose.
but it is not like the kit will be moving around much .
I scored them for a very reasonable price considering the pristine condition they are in high demand they are in these days
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 09-26-2012, 12:15 AM
GRUNTERSDAD's Avatar
GRUNTERSDAD GRUNTERSDAD is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Florida's West Coast
Posts: 15,469
Default Re: my 1966 Gretsch round badge

What did you do with the tom muffling knobs, take them off? LOL Very nice looking. I think I have seen this somewhere before.
__________________
Thank you for sharing my day.
Gretsch Renown
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 09-26-2012, 12:18 AM
Bo Eder's Avatar
Bo Eder Bo Eder is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Southern California
Posts: 11,429
Default Re: my 1966 Gretsch round badge

There's something so cool and intangible about these vintage Gretsch kits - I'm surprised I never sought one out. Maybe I should....

Congrats!
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 09-26-2012, 12:25 AM
Anthony Amodeo
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: my 1966 Gretsch round badge

Quote:
Originally Posted by GRUNTERSDAD View Post
What did you do with the tom muffling knobs, take them off? LOL Very nice looking. I think I have seen this somewhere before.
just flipped the tom over.

the guy I bought it from had the tom the other way.

guys like Tony Williams made it fashionable in the 60s to flip the tom over and have the muffling system knobs on the outside ......the guy I bought it from was one who was influenced by all that

so I just flipped the tom back to the way it was intended to be

here is a pick of it flipped the way Tony would sometimes play ...and the way it was in the picture I sent you before I bought it :)

Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 09-26-2012, 03:34 AM
brentcn brentcn is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 871
Default Re: my 1966 Gretsch round badge

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gvdadrummasum View Post
do you have experience installing the bass drum badge?

the one I bought is an original 60s badge that comes with the factory grommet ...but I have no idea how to install it

....no...no matching snare....I plan to get a nice 60s Gretsch snare to go with it at some point....that will probably be the last piece of the vintage puzzle though
Yeah, I had to put it in myself. It turned out... okay. I should re-do it!

You'll need a grommeting tool of appropriate size. The end of the grommet that is not rounded over is supposed to split apart in three or four places (like a blooming flower), and the metal "leaves" hold the grommet against the inside of the shell. I borrowed a grommeting tool from the local hardware store, but it was too big, so I "made it work" by taping a large coin over the badge and grommet so I could wail on the other side with the hammer.

See if you or someone at a hardware store can "pre-splay" the inward part of the grommet, so that it splits easily against the inside of the shell as you install it. You won't have to apply as much force, which means less chance of damaging the badge or shell. If you can, make good friends with the cranky old dude at the hardware store who actually knows his s*&t!

If the grommet fails for some reason, you can buy a piece of brass tubing and make your own grommet with a ball peen hammer.

When/if you do get that snare, make sure you play it before handing over the cash. My 60s RB snare has character, and a nice loud crack, but it's actually terrible for jazz. It's just not sensitive enough for subtle comping. The snare throw works fine, but the head fits too tightly around the bearing edge, so it just won't "sing". But maybe you'll get lucky with one that does!
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 09-26-2012, 04:04 AM
8Mile's Avatar
8Mile 8Mile is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Detroit, MI
Posts: 2,716
Default Re: my 1966 Gretsch round badge

Congrats, Gvd! That is a beautiful find. I share your excitement. Enjoy those beauties in good health!

Ya know, this doesn't exactly challenge my theory that you were put on this earth for the sole purpose of making me jealous :)
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 09-26-2012, 07:29 AM
Anthony Amodeo
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: my 1966 Gretsch round badge

@ 8mile - thats hilarious....you can come play them any time brother

@ brentcn - thanks a ton for the info
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 09-26-2012, 08:20 AM
Anthony Amodeo
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: my 1966 Gretsch round badge

here are a few of the guys that made it fashionable to flip your rack tom and play with the muffler knobs on the outside

Tony


Elvin


Max
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 09-26-2012, 08:45 AM
keep it simple's Avatar
keep it simple keep it simple is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Herefordshire, UK.
Posts: 16,590
Default Re: my 1966 Gretsch round badge

Congratulations Anthony! I agree with Larry, you've earned the right to have these in your drum room without feeling in the least bit guilty. They're beautiful, & just like a ageing honey who's kept herself in good condition, she can still show you a trick or two ;)

I'm a bit disappointed that I can't make it to the National drum fair this weekend. I'm so freakin' busy right now. Each time I go there, I marvel at the examples of vintage drum love on display. The effort & attention to detail that some of these guys put into making their classic drums shine beyond their years, is remarkable. I know you will both use respectfully & cherish this gem you've uncovered. After all those years in the basement, it's the kit's time to live again!

Worth clicking through this gallery :) http://www.ukdrumfair.com/Gallery.html
__________________
This message is brought to you courtesy of Thinly Veiled Productions inc.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 09-26-2012, 09:05 AM
Bo Eder's Avatar
Bo Eder Bo Eder is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Southern California
Posts: 11,429
Default Re: my 1966 Gretsch round badge

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gvdadrummasum View Post
here are a few of the guys that made it fashionable to flip your rack tom and play with the muffler knobs on the outside

Tony


Elvin


Max
How cool is Max in that shot? He's not even playing and he looks like he knows it ;)
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 09-26-2012, 11:08 AM
Pocket-full-of-gold's Avatar
Pocket-full-of-gold Pocket-full-of-gold is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia.
Posts: 9,908
Default Re: my 1966 Gretsch round badge

Oh, so sweet.

How I covet!!
__________________
What's the best cape for running away from a gig?
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 09-26-2012, 07:05 PM
Anthony Amodeo
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: my 1966 Gretsch round badge

@ KIS - thanks for that link brother.....droooooool

@ Bo - Max was one smooth customer.
I remember at Elvins funeral Max was wheeled in sitting in a wheelchair and I had no idea who he was .....he looked nothing like the pictures I had seen.
it was awesome to see him in person ....but it added to my sadness of losing Elvin when I saw Max like that.
I wanted to approach Max and give my condolences but he looked so amazingly sad over losing such a good friend that I decided to leave it be.
I made the right decision

Last edited by Anthony Amodeo; 09-26-2012 at 08:04 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 09-27-2012, 10:23 PM
Anthony Amodeo
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: my 1966 Gretsch round badge

Quote:
Originally Posted by dmacc View Post
Congratulations Anthony! That's a wonderful, wonderful opportunity to have happened.

Enjoy them as much as I know you'll take care of and respect them.

I need to go mop up my drool now...
d
I was just in my drum room wiping them down with a microfiber cloth wondering if I was insane or not ......I turned around and my dog (the guy in my avi) was staring at me like what the F are you doing?

:)

these things have brought out a caring side of me that my wife can barely bring out
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 09-27-2012, 11:17 PM
harryconway's Avatar
harryconway harryconway is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Pasadena, California, U.S.A.
Posts: 9,222
Default Re: my 1966 Gretsch round badge

Ah yes, the ol' Gretsch Round Badge voodoo. I'm totally under it's spell. My RB's are the one kit that will never leave the house. All the others, fair game. And I know that we're all different (in our personal objects of lust/desire), but for me, the RB's have a "je ne sais quoi" unmatched by any of my other kits.
__________________
This seat does not recline as per Federal Aviation Regulation 121.310 (f)(3)
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 09-27-2012, 11:47 PM
Anthony Amodeo
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: my 1966 Gretsch round badge

Quote:
Originally Posted by harryconway View Post
Ah yes, the ol' Gretsch Round Badge voodoo. I'm totally under it's spell. My RB's are the one kit that will never leave the house. All the others, fair game. And I know that we're all different (in our personal objects of lust/desire), but for me, the RB's have a "je ne sais quoi" unmatched by any of my other kits.

could not agree more

I have had two 60s Ludwig kits (I'll throw some pics up later ) that were in pristine condition as well......got both of them from Stan and Jerry over at Pro Drum.......sold them both back to them as well when I left LA..... and neither of them sounded nearly as good as this RB

this thing will definitely never leave my house
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 09-28-2012, 12:51 PM
dmacc's Avatar
dmacc dmacc is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 2,404
Default Re: my 1966 Gretsch round badge

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gvdadrummasum View Post
d
I was just in my drum room wiping them down with a microfiber cloth wondering if I was insane or not ......I turned around and my dog (the guy in my avi) was staring at me like what the F are you doing?
That's a stitch................
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 09-29-2012, 09:33 AM
Skulmoski's Avatar
Skulmoski Skulmoski is offline
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Abu Dhabi
Posts: 1,303
Default Re: my 1966 Gretsch round badge

Are you going to put calf skin heads on them (e.g. Earthtone)?

Nice kit, very nice kit.

GJS
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 09-29-2012, 11:36 PM
Anthony Amodeo
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: my 1966 Gretsch round badge

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skulmoski View Post
Are you going to put calf skin heads on them (e.g. Earthtone)?

Nice kit, very nice kit.

GJS
thanks you brother

nah...not to big on those
they respond way to much to the weather

sticking with good old Remo Ambassadors
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 10-04-2012, 04:30 AM
DrumEatDrum's Avatar
DrumEatDrum DrumEatDrum is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 7,787
Default Re: my 1966 Gretsch round badge

Sweet kit. Sweet sizes.
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 10-12-2012, 11:38 PM
rogue_drummer's Avatar
rogue_drummer rogue_drummer is offline
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Fort Worth
Posts: 1,216
Default Re: my 1966 Gretsch round badge

Nice kit! You sir, are a lucky man!
__________________
I don't aim to be the best, just the best looking.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are Off
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off




All times are GMT +2. The time now is 10:59 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Bernhard Castiglioni's DRUMMERWORLD.com