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View Poll Results: Where do you fit?
Professional - I play my drums for a living 32 6.40%
Semi-Pro - I have another job and I play my drums for money 193 38.60%
Hobbyist - I play my drums strictly for my own enjoyment 239 47.80%
Student- Pro - I'm in school but I still play gigs 36 7.20%
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Old 11-04-2013, 12:01 AM
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Doc, as drummers I wonder how many of our relatively brilliant moments at gigs are noticed by audiences anyway, and even if they are noticed, how much are they remembered?

It was great in my teens and 20s bringing original material to the public at a time when the bar scene was buzzing. Not the same to be an old fart at a time where most venues turned into little gambling houses and most bands out there are playing covers. I'm happy to pass on the baton to Gen Next :)
who cares how many noticed. the good make it look easy anyway. it's all about giving up your vital juices. if they don't know then they needs to know.

OMG it's more important that they feel it anyway than that they notate a brilliant moment in time. just rock em. that's your (my) job.

now i'm not saying i'm a 300 gig a year well into my 70's type gigster at all. truth be known, i'd rather sleep in my own bed at the end of the night. but if for 1 weekend a month i can drop the super heavy THANG YOU NEED on somebody, then so shall it be if i am at all able.

not to mention occasionally running into the like-minded.

but on the personal human real world side of things...i think it's a darned shame that a drummer of your awesomacity is so unconcerned about whether you do or you don't. on an ideal planet, you would extend your world tour, come to america and be my drummer.

as all encompassingly well rounded as an artist as you are....haven't you heard anything that made you think Corr...i'd like in on that ...
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Way too kind, Doc, but appreciated! I might use this to start another thread about the virtues (and otherwise) of gigging.
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Old 11-18-2013, 03:26 AM
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How come I keep seeing this thread has having a new recent post, but when I click on it, all I see is the same last post from many days ago?

Oh, well, here is a new last post!
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Old 11-18-2013, 03:41 AM
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How come I keep seeing this thread has having a new recent post, but when I click on it, all I see is the same last post from many days ago?

Oh, well, here is a new last post!
I'm thinking that whenever someone votes it moves to the top again. Just a thought anyway.
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I'm thinking that whenever someone votes it moves to the top again. Just a thought anyway.
That sounds right. It's now 14, 62, 66, 11 ...

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Old 11-19-2013, 06:06 AM
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I used to only want to be a hobbyist, but then I later started getting into bands. So now I'm a student that gigs with a band, possibly two soon.
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Old 11-19-2013, 06:13 AM
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Update!

I fit into the space under the sink! My girl said that it couldn't be done, and that I was an idiot, but I sure proved her wrong!

I couldn't find the option in the poll, but felt you guys should know where I fit, too.
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Old 11-19-2013, 04:56 PM
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I'm a solid 2. In my twenties, I wanted to be a 1, but now with a family, 2 is a much more appealing place to be. My hope is to stay there until I get too old to do it anymore.
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Where would "I play enjoyable gigs for money" fit in? I don't need the money, but I expect to get paid. Since I don't need the gig for the money, I gig where it's musically enjoyable. As I get better, I hope the enjoyment factor goes up and playing better with better people at better gigs should be more money. But even if it isn't, I'll do a $50 with people I like playing stuff I like, but turn down the $100 gig with the self styled rawk stahs and drama queens. If I had to support myself with music, then a gig's a gig. And I've been there. It's nice to have options.
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Old 11-26-2013, 05:15 AM
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Proof of the hypothesis!

Aeolian's post was 3 days ago but this thread keeps returning to near the top and qualifies as a "New Post" :)
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I started out as a pro (when I was much younger) then got married/job/family and played out on weekends. These days I do it for myself, but am still looking to form an internet band.

So, I'm a hobbyist with high hopes.
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Currently hobbyist. I was in a band that got paid for gigs a while back and toured a bit, so maybe at that point I was semi-pro?
I'm hoping to be semi-pro again at some point.
If I could do it all again, I'd aim to be a pro musician!...
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I will always be a student. Drumming is my #1 hobby. I do play several gigs for money and teach a few lessons for money. However it is just supplemental income. I would call myself a happy #2 that only wants to be a #1 if fame is involved. I don't want my favorite hobby to be my job unless I am driving a lambo. I used to want to be a #1 at all costs. But I only think about being a good husband and financially stable.
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Proof of the hypothesis!

Aeolian's post was 3 days ago but this thread keeps returning to near the top and qualifies as a "New Post" :)
Yeah... 133 replies in this thread, but 189 voters... more votes than replies, this explaining that...
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Actually, I fit in the "Fun Size" category.

That's what Mo says, anyway ;)
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3. , no audience -- breaking all rules in drumming
if any....my own enjoyment
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I am a 3, but I find the non-musical gear pushing salesman category suspiciously missing.
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Old 08-17-2014, 02:55 PM
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Semi-pro player for about twenty years. I've always had that safety net of a 9-5 gig.
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Number 3 for now.............
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I guess I voted a long time ago and it won't let me change my vote. But I've been at #2 for almost a year now. One day I'd like to try out being at #1.
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I'm definitely a hobbyist, #3. I'm always looking for someone to jam with.
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OK OK - I'll admit to being part of the semi-pro fraternity. I'd like to be part of the vaunted #1 category, but when I tried it, I found I had to take every job that came my way, and you end up meeting and playing with alot of people you wouldn't want to hang with off of the bandstand ;)

So now I can say "no" alot and not have to worry where the money is coming from, but at the same time, money still comes in when I do go out to play. But that's not to say I wouldn't play for free. I just have to love you ;)
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I was a #1 for most of my adult life. Came off the road and got into producing TV and video. I still play almost every weekend and often during the week. More folks know me as a musician than anything else....Alll that said, I'm a #2 and glad.
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Finally, after two years of 3 with an occasional paying sub gig, I am now in a working band. So 2 it is!!!!!

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh! First time in 30 plus years I have more than one gig ahead of me!
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#2 as the music I play doesn't really pay enough to be a #1
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I play drums just as a hobby, and play in school concerts.
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OK OK - I'll admit to being part of the semi-pro fraternity. I'd like to be part of the vaunted #1 category, but when I tried it, I found I had to take every job that came my way, and you end up meeting and playing with alot of people you wouldn't want to hang with off of the bandstand ;)

So now I can say "no" alot and not have to worry where the money is coming from, but at the same time, money still comes in when I do go out to play. But that's not to say I wouldn't play for free. I just have to love you ;)
Isn't your primary job music, too? Just because you're wearing a costume (or a cape) doesn't mean it's not music for money!
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I've had the opportunity of being in all four categories in my life. I would suggest amateur as a fit. One who does it for the love of it... paid or not, steady work or not, student or not... The fit we all share I would guess.

At this point and for a long time now I have a non-music full time gig that I also love and provides for my family so I am a hobbiest. But I really hope that when I retire I will return to working pro - though selective about the gigs and musicians I work with as the money won't be needed to keep everyone fed clothed schooled and doctored, and dance lessons, oh and sax lessons, and braces, and.... I really admire that some drummers are able to take care of their family purely with their sticks.... Hats off to them.... They work dam hard, they live by their own wits and gumption, and have no guarantee of a steady paycheck.... Amazing. I sometimes wish I had two lives, one to be a good dad and husband, and another to be just a drummer and only responsible to my own muse.
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Although I do make a little bit of cash with the kit, I also make some with the electric and upright bass and guitar, Afro/Latin percussion and whatever, where ever I can help out. I call myself a multi-instrumentalist, my colleges call me the utility guy.

I would have to say that I am more of an aficionado on the kit. I just enjoy it and with aged hands the sticks allow me to play more without the discomfort of hand recovery after strenuous nights on the percussion.
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I guess that I am 2.5. Our noisy band makes money, but we would starve if that was HOW I made money.
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I worked solely as a performer for years, but these days most of my money is through teaching drums. I still count that in the pro category, though. I'm also writing books on drums and rhythm, but that again is still counted in the pro category, imo.
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From age 21 to 31 I was semi-pro. Then I joined the army became number 3, which actually has been great for me as I have had the past 5 years to practice nothing but what I want to - no learning covers, etc. My technique and creativity have improved significantly. I'm leaving the army in a couple of months, and then will go back to 2. 1 is always the goal, of course.
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I've been a #3 since 1989 and "graduated" to #2 around 2008. Our band is on a big upswing now and we're having a lot of fun. It affords me creative, financial, and emotional freedom.

If a #1 opportunity came along I would consider it in all aspects just like I was considering a new corporate job in another state.
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Once upon a time I made a bit of spare change playing a few gigs. But just a few. You see I had this day job...
These days I'm a pure hobbyist who, believe it or not, plays for the exercise as much as for enjoyment.
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#3. It's my destiny. Still love it and having fun.
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And that's the way I like it these days.
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Number three-hobbyist now and forever. I use to play at church-no money I performed for an audience of One, orchestra-no money, and a jazz group (that I only accepted money a couple of times). I quit because my hearing has gotten so bad I struggle live stuff. I figure I'm an amateur hobbyist who is lucky enough to perform so why charge-if anything I should be paying them LOL.
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Strictly a hobbyist. If I do get a chance to gig, I offer my services pro bono (or pro beero).
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Strictly a hobbyist. If I do get a chance to gig, I offer my services pro bono (or pro beero).
This. Full time military job plus deployments don't give me the luxury of playing paid gigs on a regular basis. But when I do, it's for free or liquid coin.
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