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I just found a video of me playing a gig about 4 years ago. The Internet is a wonderful thing. No way am I going to link it but it's so bizarre. I had no idea it had been recorded.
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Duncan, this is a form of abuse I'll have you know. You can't tantalize us and not deliver, where's your national pride? How would you like it if I did that to you?
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Yeah but it's ropey beyond all belief...
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Regarding grains of sand, although big rocks do eventually crumble into sand, at any given instant there are a finite number of sand grains on planet Earth. A big number to be sure but it has been estimated that there are more stars in the universe than there are grains of sand on all of Earth's beaches combined.
What I find more striking is that there are more molecules of water in a cup of water than there are cups of water in your favorite ocean. That's an awful lot of some extremely small things. More fun with math. Consider the number .999999... (an infinity of nines after the decimal point). Is this number almost as large as one, exactly equal to one or ever so slightly larger than one? The answer after a word from our sponsor....
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But why is Pi infinite?
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Ate a chicken and leek pie for lunch yesterday.
That was most definitely finite.......didn't last very long at all.
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Lol...you put an end to it quick. Washed it down with a Crown too, I'll bet.
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.999 recurring is the same as 1. I forget the proof but I was shown it when I was 9...
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Pi is not infinite although its decimal expansion has an infinite number of digits.
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2+2 = 5
The above is true for very large values of 2. 
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Pi has always fascinated me. If you think about it, we only really need three digits: 1, 2 & 3. Then there is binary code...0 & 1 ( i need to go smoke one )
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We only need binary digits. We choose ten in the West but other cultures chose different bases. Some Mesoamerican cultures used a base20 system. Time in the West is technically a base60 system which was also used by the Sumerians nearly 5,000 years ago.
I should get my brother on here... he'd know more about this than me.
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The length of pi is infinite, but the value of pi is 3pointsomething.

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People are such cheap asses. I have an AR15 with accessories for sale for $500. That is an excellent price for a fully functional, well taken care of, accurate rifle. People keep trying to trade me their crappy .22's. My lower receiver cost more than their whole gun. Cheap asses I tell ya, cheap asses.
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There are 10 kinds of people in the world:
Those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Hahahaha. I'll have to remember that one!
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I wish pi was infinite. especially Apple pi
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I had that sign behind my desk for a long time but took it down tired of the qustions by the nonbinary folks.
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Pi R Squared, Apple Pi R Round
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Now you are just talking in circles!
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It is a shame NYers can't own one. I understand why, but it is still a shame.
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But that doesn't stop people from doing so anyway. It's not like there are border checks between the states or other avenues to obtain them. I must admit that as an adult I don't quite understand the allure of them. I mean drums are too loud as it is, I can't imagine that hobby.
Speaking of pi, because it is a nonterminating and nonpatterned set of all digits, you should be able to find your birth date in there somewhere.
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...And it turns out after a quick search you can do exactly that here:
http://www.angio.net/pi/
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There is something very magical about shouldering a small, contained explosion that allows you to repeatedly put a small piece of lead exactly where you want it over and over and over. I find it very relaxing.
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I find picking my nose in traffic very relaxing.
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Not sure about the whole nose harvesting thing though...
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When did people start beginning their answers to questions with "so"? It makes no sense, and it's bloody annoying. Just answer the damn question!
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So once I took that 3 or 4 hundred question pscych questionaire. I was said to be kind of asocial. Between that, life itself, and practicing, I can't even open up DW anymore. I love you guys tho. Gonna make supreme effort to join the living.
Hey I got a teacher! I'm so excited just had to tell ya. Together, I think I can beat multiple personality disorder.
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That reminds me, I've been working a lot on my symmetry. You know, I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous.
Thank you, thank you. I'll be here all week. Try the fish, it's delish...
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And if 1  something = 0, then that something must be 1. How'd I do? To infinity and beyond! 
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There are multiple ways to prove this (.999... exactly equals 1). One way is a decimal expansion. For example, we take a fraction like 1/3 and go through a sequence like "Move the decimal point and 3 goes into 10 3 times with 1 left over. Move the decimal point again and again you have 3 goes into 10 3 times with 1 left over", leading to .333.... exactly equal to 1/3. You can do a similar expansion on 1/1. "1 goes into 10 9 times with 1 left over, move the decimal and repeat", resulting in .999...
What I like better is noting that .333... is exactly equal to 1/3. If you multiply .333... by 3 you get .999... and since 3 times 1/3 is exactly 1 then .999... must also be exactly 1. Today's random thought: The only marsupial native to North America is the opossum.
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Not being a mathematician I don't know how to notate it but .999 to what ever number of decimal points is always going to be shy .1 to the same number of decimal points of 1. I'm sure you don't want me to pay you .999 of your paycheck monthly. So it is almost as large as 1.
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No it's not, Grunts. That's the beauty of it. .9 recurring is the same as 1.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0.999...
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Here is the problem with .999 I have a basketball, it is 1. If I remove .001% of the basketball, it no longer holds air and now is equal to 0, as it is useless.
Math is fun and can be used to manipulate just about anything as you need it to. As someone who is trained as a designer, I can say without a doubt that .999 does not always equal 1. A machine part that has a size of .999" and fits into another part with an opening of 1.001" will fail if either part is machined to exactly 1". We need those differences in size to allow the parts to work as needed. .999 is not the same as 1. Yes I know you can do a proof and make it work, but you can also do a proof and find that all women are evil. Again, this is not always the case.
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1.000000000
 .999999999  .000000001 If there is a difference, in my book it can't be the same. Old math, new math whatever. Like I said I will see that from now on you get .999 of your pay. 50,000 pounds per year x .999 =49,950 pounds. I'll keep the 50 pounds Every time you add a 9 I will add a 0 and the difference will be the exponent of the number of 9's and that is .1
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although, in my experience, it is often the case...
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Mathematical proofs are absolute, at least at this basic level. .999 is one thing. .999 recurring is a vastly, vastly different thing to .999. They're not the same number in any sense.
Do you deny that three thirds make 1? Well, three thirds make 0.999 recurring, which is the same thing as 1, otherwise you couldn't divide anything by anything.
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.99999 is not 1, neither is .99999999999999999999999.
But .999... (that is, an infinite sequence of 9s, note the trailing ellipsis) is 1. Period. It's not approximate, it's not some form of mathematical chicanery, it's not a parlor trick. It's a fact, like "the earth orbits the sun". And if I add an infinite number of 9s then you won't get to add a 0. Look at it this way, every time we add a 9, the differential gets smaller. If we add an infinite number of 9s then the differential is infinitely small, in other words, there is no differential.
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