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Old 07-04-2012, 06:44 AM
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Default Tuning Jazz kit for Metal

Hi,
I was just curious as to what difference does a jazz/fusion/pop kit make, if you play heavy metal on it. From what I understand, the jazz/fusion kits have one major difference from the standard kit i.e., the toms. Normally, jazz/fusion kits have smaller toms, basically 10" & 12" rack toms whereas a standard kit has 12" & 13" ones. I am talking about a 5-piece kit. Of course, in any genre you can add as many toms of any size you wish like. But, suppose I want to play Heavy Metal more precisely Thrash/Death Metal on a Fusion kit, can I tune down the small toms to make them sound heavier? Or will they sound totally absurd for Metal?
From what I have heard and believe is that you can possibly play any genre on any kit. You can have the same gear and transcend the boundaries of your genre anytime.
Well, I tried Thrash Metal on my fusion kit (with 8", 10", & 12" rack toms), and it kinda sounded funny. Does anyone know how can I make them sound more heavier, if possible? Also, is there any Metal band out there whose drummer uses smaller toms?

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Old 07-04-2012, 07:05 AM
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Old 07-04-2012, 10:27 AM
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why not?

I recorded fusion sizes on two Metal releases. Two ply batters of your choice for a fat warm tone. You can EQ in the studio to your heart's desire; trigger if you want.
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Old 07-04-2012, 02:03 PM
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Default Re: Tuning Jazz kit for Metal

Lots of metal drummers use smaller toms, particularly in extreme metal. I think it's often to reduce the amount of sustain so as to make fast parts sound more punchy, and possibly also for ease of setup in bigger kits.
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Old 07-04-2012, 02:12 PM
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Default Re: Tuning Jazz kit for Metal

Chris Adler uses a 10 & 12 rack tom set up - works for him. Just tune the drum to the sweet spot. You don't need to tune drums to JAW for it to work. If you need to lay down a deeper sound that's what your floor toms are for. I play a lot of metal on a fusion kit and it sounds fine. My toms are tuned to 3C, 2A and 2F - they work great, especially for faster or more intricate work.
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Old 07-04-2012, 02:32 PM
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Actually, I seem to have forgotten that I am actually in the studio right at this minute recording a metal album and we used 10" 12" and 16" toms. So it's definitely fine!
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Old 07-04-2012, 04:03 PM
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Old 07-04-2012, 06:29 PM
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Two ply batters of your choice for a fat warm tone.
This. Change your heads, and you'll be able to drastically change your drum sound.
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Old 07-05-2012, 04:42 PM
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I play metal and use small drums. 10" rack, 14" floor. 20" kick. 13" snare. I love them.
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Old 07-05-2012, 05:19 PM
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I have played pretty much all genres with my 8"/10"/12"/14"/16" setup over a 20" kick. It's about tuning and touch, not about sizes.
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Old 07-06-2012, 07:06 AM
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Default Re: Tuning Jazz kit for Metal

Thank for the responses guys,
Yeah, some more tuning down worked for me. They are sounding much better now. ;)
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Old 07-06-2012, 07:13 AM
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Is the jazz kit happy to play metal? What if it wants to keep playing jazz? Has anyone bothered to ask? Not to mention that it effectively means that a metal kit somewhere is now out of a gig too. Surely there's unions to safeguard against this type of practice?

I mean, all good suggestions guys, but surely asking the kit in the first place is only proper, no?
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Old 07-06-2012, 04:28 PM
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Is the jazz kit happy to play metal? What if it wants to keep playing jazz? Has anyone bothered to ask? Not to mention that it effectively means that a metal kit somewhere is now out of a gig too. Surely there's unions to safeguard against this type of practice?

I mean, all good suggestions guys, but surely asking the kit in the first place is only proper, no?
That was pretty much the kind of response I was going to give.But if you try to play metal on a jazz kit...will it make any noise at all?Kind of like....if a man says something,and there's no woman around.......is he still wrong?

Just something to ponder.Cheers mate.;)

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Old 07-07-2012, 05:21 AM
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Now I'm really gonna mess with your head.

How about a "Metal" kit for Jazz?
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