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Old 06-19-2012, 11:29 AM
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Default Bass head and hoops don't fit

Alright so I replaced the factory head on my OCDP 22' bass and quickly realized that my hoops don't fit right on the head, instead of sitting on the metal part the hoop sits on the actual head. At first I thought it was a bad head but then I noticed the same problem on both the factory batter and factory reso. A friend told me to just tighten until the head was basically forced into the hoop but I'm afraid the hoop might crack. Has anyone else ever had this problem?
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Old 06-19-2012, 05:20 PM
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Default Re: Bass head and hoops don't fit

Sounds really weird.

I just have to ask the most natural question: Are you completely sure that the head is the correct size for the bass drum? Maybe you are trying to put a 22" head on a 20" bass drum?
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Old 06-19-2012, 05:24 PM
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Default Re: Bass head and hoops don't fit

Also, are your drums cheap? If your kit is really really really REALLY cheap, maybe the build quality is bad and the bass drum is not EXACTLY 22". If that turns out to be the case, you might have to buy new drums.
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Old 06-20-2012, 01:22 AM
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Yes I am positive that the head and the shells are a match there's not a big difference between them. It seems like the hoops are maybe a centimeter too small. The shells aren't the best but they are quality. I have an OCDP Venice kit. The head fits perfectly on the baring edge on the shell but the hoops just don't fit the head like they should. Think this might be a factory error?
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Old 06-20-2012, 01:42 AM
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Default Re: Bass head and hoops don't fit

Sometimes the head doesn't sit far enough down into the channel when it's being glued in, and that's why you see a "bump" of head sticking up. It is a defect.
You'll need a new head, and I'd suggest pulling them out of the box, & checking them out before you plunk down the cash.

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Old 06-20-2012, 01:50 AM
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Default Re: Bass head and hoops don't fit

I've seen the same issue with Ludwig, who builds their drums to fit their heads, and build their heads to slightly different dimensions than everyone else.

In your case? I'd guess a design flaw, not a manufacturing defect. Other models or makes of head might fare better, or maybe not.

Remo has told me it shouldn't generally cause a tuning issue, so you can potentially ignore how it looks and not worry. Over tightening seems like a bad thing to do for many reasons. You can also cut or possibly file-sand a small chamfer on the inside edge of the hoop so it fits more flush.
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Old 06-20-2012, 02:44 AM
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Default Re: Bass head and hoops don't fit

Since the factory batter and reso head fit the same way I'm guessing that it is a design flaw. At the moment shaving down the hoops doesn't seem like a bad idea. I wouldn't dream of doing it myself being that I'm not a carpenter or a luthier. I'm probably going to wind up buying new hoops anyway but it might be cheaper to get my current ones shaved down a bit plus it'll match nicer. From what I can tell it doesnt really affect the sound but it is a pain to tune because if the hoops aren't perfectly square on the head it'll slide over and I'll have one side looser than the other.
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Old 06-20-2012, 06:56 PM
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The head fits perfectly on the baring edge on the shell but the hoops just don't fit the head like they should. Think this might be a factory error?
Does this mean that the hoop's and the shell's sizes does not match? In that case, it sounds like a design flaw. <facepalm> I suggest that you speak to Remo/Evans and to your drum manufacturer and ask them what they think you should do.

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Old 06-20-2012, 07:10 PM
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No. The hoop fits on the shell just fine. Its just that my head won't fit into the hoop it's like if my hoop was made for a 21 3/4" head.
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Old 06-20-2012, 10:05 PM
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Default Re: Bass head and hoops don't fit

Do you have any photo closeups of the hoop/head/shell and the fit issues?
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