...for the jazz cats ... - Page 9

?uesto · #**321** 12-17-2012, 05:24 PM

Maybe someone in here can help me. I got these two posters and have no idea who the players are. They could just be fictitious musicians, but I thought the Sax player looked like Bird. No clue who the trumpeter is though. Any ideas?

Anthony Amodeo · #**322** 12-17-2012, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ?uesto

Maybe someone in here can help me. I got these two posters and have no idea who the players are. They could just be fictitious musicians, but I thought the Sax player looked like Bird. No clue who the trumpeter is though. Any ideas?

looks to be fictitious characters loosely based on Bird and Diz ...who were a dynamic duo in the 40s

_Leviathan_ · #**323** 12-18-2012, 04:22 AM

Great thanks! Should keep me busy for a while.

Elvis · #**324** 12-18-2012, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by _Leviathan_

I'm wondering if you jazz cats could give me some recommendations. :) My favorite jazz albums of all time are A Love Supreme by Coltrane and Empyrean Isles by Herbie Hancock. I love 1960's jazz of that type and want to get into more because that playing is just inspiring. The sound, the expression, technicality, the feeling. Any recommendations for that kind of style? I prefer quartets. Thanks!

Concerning Coltrane, A Love Supreme was just the beginning.
One of my favourite albums is ALS's follow-up, Meditations.
I've heard there's a "First Meditations", as well, but I'm unfamiliar with this recording.
There's also Innerstellar Space, Expressions and Stellar Regions...and let's not foget those classic Village Vanguard recordings.

Elvis

Elvis · #**325** 12-18-2012, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Gvdadrummasum

looks to be fictitious characters loosely based on Bird and Diz ...who were a dynamic duo in the 40s

If you ask me, the trumpet guy shares a closer resemblence to Roy Eldridge...

The sax guy reminds me more of Coleman Hawkins...

JMHO.

Elvis
P.S. Those are beautiful paintings. I'm a bit of art collector myself. Where did you get them?

Anthony Amodeo · #**326** 12-18-2012, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Elvis

If you ask me, the trumpet guy shares a closer resemblence to Roy Eldridge...

JMHO.

Elvis
P.S. Those are beautiful paintings. I'm a bit of art collector myself. Where did you get them?

the beret is a dead Diz giveaway

obviously a characterture ....but for sure based on Diz

the artist is Will Rafuse.....he calls them Jazz Cat Alley

Elvis · #**327** 12-18-2012, 05:23 AM

Can you show me a pic of Diz, from back then, wearing the beret?
I've heard this from othes, but have yet to see a pic of him actually wearing one.

Elvis

8Mile · #**328** 12-18-2012, 05:28 AM

Anthony Amodeo · #**329** 12-18-2012, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Elvis

Can you show me a pic of Diz, from back then, wearing the beret?
I've heard this from othes, but have yet to see a pic of him actually wearing one.

Elvis

Elvis · #**330** 12-18-2012, 07:37 PM

THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THE PAINTING!

....kidding. Thanks for posting those. =)

Elvis

?uesto · #**331** 12-19-2012, 06:42 PM

Yeah, thanks for all the help guys. I imagine the artist would have had Dizzie and Bird in mind if he did them together. There's a third painting in this style of a bassist and pianist. Probably Duke and someone else?

Elvis · #**332** 12-20-2012, 06:46 AM

Jazz Cat Alley II

Could the bass player be Charles Mingus or maybe Slam Stewart?

Elvis

Anthony Amodeo · #**333** 12-26-2012, 06:08 PM

if any of you have never heard this......and even those who have

take 9:49 and treat yourself to some of the .....if not THE best drumming you will ever hear in your life.......and I'm dead serious

listen to a 17 year old Anthony Williams display the most unbelievable talent I have ever heard

his playing as an accompanist is absolutely amazing, inspiring, forward moving and thinking , and unbelievably unique

his solo in this tune is like nothing that had been heard at that point in 1963......seriously mind blowing

I mean......Elvin, Art, Bunker, Grady Tate, Roy, and a few other cats were playing some out stuff....but nothing like what Tony plays here

no matter how many times I hear this tune over the years ....it blows my mind every time

this to me is the absolute epitome of drumming and needs to be celebrated because Tony changed everything and shaped drumming as we know it today

enjoy this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlvAlQV6CqA

8Mile · #**334** 12-27-2012, 12:55 AM

Oh hell yeah. I just revisisted this because you guys mentioned it a couple weeks ago.

I agree. Tony was just at a different level. I seriously prefer his playing circa 1963-1965 over anything he did later.

I know he's probably even more famous for the stuff he did years later, like the "blushda" licks, the quarter note on the hats and all the fusion stuff. That's what people seem to remember most, that's what the Lifetime tribute band with Cindy Blackman celebrates.

But, to me, this stuff was the pinnacle of Tony. And maybe jazz drumming in general.

He was so fresh at this point, played stuff so swinging, yet so advanced. His inventiveness seemed to have no limits. No repeating himself, no contrived "licks." His drum sound is so musical. His cymbal sound is the standard for the instrument in this music, for so many.

kafkapenguin · #**335** 12-27-2012, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by 8Mile

Oh hell yeah. I just revisisted this because you guys mentioned it a couple weeks ago.

I agree. Tony was just at a different level. I seriously prefer his playing circa 1963-1965 over anything he did later.

I know he's probably even more famous for the stuff he did years later, like the "blushda" licks, the quarter note on the hats and all the fusion stuff. That's what people seem to remember most, that's what the Lifetime tribute band with Cindy Blackman celebrates.

But, to me, this stuff was the pinnacle of Tony. And maybe jazz drumming in general.

He was so fresh at this point, played stuff so swinging, yet so advanced. His inventiveness seemed to have no limits. No repeating himself, no contrived "licks." His drum sound is so musical. His cymbal sound is the standard for the instrument in this music, for so many.

In total agreement. The early 60's stuff just total blew my mind, and I wasn't a drummer when I first heard this stuff but Tony's playing totally caught my attention... and the cymbal work!...Whoa! Pure magic!

Anthony Amodeo · #**336** 12-27-2012, 07:17 PM

every drummer can learn so much from that one recording

here is the track that follows that one......more superb drumming of course

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQP9nAx8vAA

Tony was modulating when modulating wasn't cool yet

:)

JerryOnDrums · #**337** 12-27-2012, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 8Mile

Oh hell yeah. I just revisisted this because you guys mentioned it a couple weeks ago.

I agree. Tony was just at a different level. I seriously prefer his playing circa 1963-1965 over anything he did later.

I know he's probably even more famous for the stuff he did years later, like the "blushda" licks, the quarter note on the hats and all the fusion stuff. That's what people seem to remember most, that's what the Lifetime tribute band with Cindy Blackman celebrates.

But, to me, this stuff was the pinnacle of Tony. And maybe jazz drumming in general.

He was so fresh at this point, played stuff so swinging, yet so advanced. His inventiveness seemed to have no limits. No repeating himself, no contrived "licks." His drum sound is so musical. His cymbal sound is the standard for the instrument in this music, for so many.

Couldn't possibly agree more. A defining moment of my musical upbringing was when, at 10 years old, my dad sat me down and made me listen to Nefertiti. Hearing Tony (specifically on Nefertiti and Pinocchio) forever changed the way I heard/played the drums.

Btw, I'm one semester away from graduating with my master's in jazz performance, so I'll throw my hat into the ring as a "jazz cat"!

JerryOnDrums · #**338** 12-27-2012, 11:05 PM

Also, I throw out there what I'm listening to right now. Just picked up Kurt Rosenwinkel's new album, "Star of Jupiter". Wow! It is really, really good. Justin Faulkner is playing on the album, and it is totally killing. This guy has his stuff together. Very tasteful playing, almost ZERO over-playing (quite refreshing, kind of reminds me a bit of another favorite, Rodney Green). If you're looking for something new to check out, this is a solid add. Aaron Parks on piano and Eric Reevis on bass round out an exceptional quartet.

Swiss Matthias · #**339** 12-28-2012, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Gvdadrummasum

take 9:49 and treat yourself to some of the .....if not THE best drumming you will ever hear in your life.......and I'm dead serious

Good stuff Gvda, good stuff!

Anthony Amodeo · #**340** 12-28-2012, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by JerryOnDrums

I'll throw my hat into the ring as a "jazz cat"!

absolutely brother

the more cats the better

looking forward to sharing and learning from each other

this thread gets poppin now and then....stick around

leoyucht · #**341** 12-29-2012, 04:14 AM

Freedom Band full concert: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UX1HB-LdVs

It's safe to say Roy Haynes has literally changed my entire outlook on music. He is a beast OH MY GOD.

aaajn · #**342** 12-29-2012, 04:52 PM

Speaking to the Jazz Cats from the Department of My Wife Really Loves Me.... For Christmas, she got us tickets to see the Charleston Jazz Orchestra do a night of Coltrane.

She must really love me because she knows I am a Jazz Cat, not a player yet but a lover of. To her, Parker, Coltrane and especially Miles sounds like alcoholics tuning up. She once commented that Dave Brubeck sounded like a lounge piano player and she could envision a piano and a brandy snifter full of 1 dollar bills. She really does not get, like, understand, enjoy Jazz. But to each their own. So to buy a pair of tickets to a night of Coltrane would be like my buying her tickets to a taping of Say Yes to the Dress.

con struct · #**343** 12-29-2012, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by aaajn

Speaking to the Jazz Cats from the Department of My Wife Really Loves Me.... For Christmas, she got us tickets to see the Charleston Jazz Orchestra do a night of Coltrane.

She must really love me because she knows I am a Jazz Cat, not a player yet but a lover of. To her, Parker, Coltrane and especially Miles sounds like alcoholics tuning up. She once commented that Dave Brubeck sounded like a lounge piano player and she could envision a piano and a brandy snifter full of 1 dollar bills. She really does not get, like, understand, enjoy Jazz. But to each their own. So to buy a pair of tickets to a night of Coltrane would be like my buying her tickets to a taping of Say Yes to the Dress.

I actually agree with her about Brubeck.:)

philosafari · #**344** 01-03-2013, 09:31 PM

Has anyone of you cats given this album a listen?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Skw5nRoDfs
It's Larry Young's album Into Somethin'- the one he did just before the famous Unity. Elvin Jones on drums, Sam Rivers(aka the saxophonist that discovered Tony Williams at age 13), and Grant Green on guitar. It hasn't been released on CD yet(Blue Note needs to open up their old catalogue)! Elvin's playing isn't as noteworthy as it is on Unity, but it's overall a great album and Grant Green's presence adds quite a bit- especially if you're into the interplay between a guitarist and organist.

haredrums · #**345** 01-03-2013, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by philosafari

Has anyone of you cats given this album a listen?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Skw5nRoDfs
It's Larry Young's album Into Somethin'- the one he did just before the famous Unity. Elvin Jones on drums, Sam Rivers(aka the saxophonist that discovered Tony Williams at age 13), and Grant Green on guitar. It hasn't been released on CD yet(Blue Note needs to open up their old catalogue)! Elvin's playing isn't as noteworthy as it is on Unity, but it's overall a great album and Grant Green's presence adds quite a bit- especially if you're into the interplay between a guitarist and organist.

Great post, thanks for sharing!

Anthony Amodeo · #**346** 01-03-2013, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by philosafari

Has anyone of you cats given this album a listen?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Skw5nRoDfs
It's Larry Young's album Into Somethin'- the one he did just before the famous Unity. Elvin Jones on drums, Sam Rivers(aka the saxophonist that discovered Tony Williams at age 13), and Grant Green on guitar. It hasn't been released on CD yet(Blue Note needs to open up their old catalogue)! Elvin's playing isn't as noteworthy as it is on Unity, but it's overall a great album and Grant Green's presence adds quite a bit- especially if you're into the interplay between a guitarist and organist.

had not heard this record

I have a feeling I'll be diving into this one

thank you

Numberless · #**347** 01-04-2013, 08:38 AM

Roy Hayne's grandson is ridiculous!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBYIf-ODPIQ

Anthony Amodeo · #**348** 01-04-2013, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Numberless

Roy Hayne's grandson is ridiculous!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBYIf-ODPIQ

wow

thank you for sharing

I had not heard him play since he was very young and he was playing more rock and hip hop

he sounds amazing

Flight Drummers · #**349** 01-04-2013, 05:03 PM

Any Gary Novak fans out there???

I also love listening to Peter Erskine!!! Ahhh his phrasing is ridiculous!

JerryOnDrums · #**350** 01-04-2013, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Flight Drummers

Any Gary Novak fans out there???

I also love listening to Peter Erskine!!! Ahhh his phrasing is ridiculous!

Chick Corea's Elektric Band II: Paint The World literally changed the way I perceived drumming...Gary is a monster!

groove1 · #**351** 01-04-2013, 10:09 PM

8Mile I couldn't agree more about Tony...just loved the early 60's playing the most.
philosafari Thanks for the info on Larry Young. I have had Unity for a long time and love
his playing with Elvin et al. Always great to hear more Larry and group.

ggmerino · #**352** 01-04-2013, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Gvdadrummasum

wow

thank you for sharing

I had not heard him play since he was very young and he was playing more rock and hip hop

he sounds amazing

Thanks for posting- that is some good stuff!! Very enjoyable and willcertainly keep an eye out for them if they pass through New York City.

Anthony Amodeo · #**353** 01-05-2013, 12:50 AM

I'd like to pass this along for your listening pleasure

fantastic record ....fantastic band

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73Aa9T-rpbg

con struct · #**354** 01-05-2013, 01:03 AM

Here's the Vector Trio doing what they do. The trumpet player is a buddy of mine. I have four of their CDs. Is it jazz? I think so.

Dig what Marshal's doing on the drums. These guys are super creative.

philosafari · #**355** 01-05-2013, 06:43 AM

Here's the title track from a record with Tony and Herbie that I never hear talked about. Kenny Dorham's Una Mas(recorded a month before Tony's first Miles recording). It's also the first recording of Joe Henderson.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDETNk20Vkc

kafkapenguin · #**356** 01-05-2013, 10:58 AM

Just found this and had to share... totally awesome performance and Antonio Sanchez smokes!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5SSKsklthg

leoyucht · #**357** 01-05-2013, 11:02 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bJu2owDM2E

How cool is Ray Brown??

Numberless · #**358** 01-06-2013, 01:12 AM

Here's a 16th note lick Art Taylor plays during his solo intro in Countdown (from Coltrane's Giant Steps). Sounds cool at high tempos.

8Mile · #**359** 01-06-2013, 03:35 AM

Some great stuff posted here over the past few days. That clip of Roy's grandson is amazing.

Speaking of Roy, I've come to the conclusion that this is a desert island disc. Just amazing music and Roy's playing is inspirational.

Numberless · #**360** 01-06-2013, 03:41 AM

I agree 8mile. I adore Roy's waltz version of Fly Me To The Moon in that disc, so good!