...for the jazz cats ...

[?uesto]

Can't believe this is the first time I'm seeing this thread.

Mingus is probably the end-all for me, but I'm still pretty new to jazz in the grand scheme of things.

I also love Coltrane, Joe Henderson, and the later Miles stuff. Still so taken back by how extensive and expressive this style of music is. Totally new to playing and pretty new to listening.

Looking forward to reading through this thread.

[kafkapenguin]

Originally Posted by 8Mile

Little talk of west coast jazz, so I'll offer up a personal fave. I can't find a YouTube link for this one, but here's the CD info http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/...le,+Vol.+1.htm

Shelly Manne was a mother******. One of the most tasteful drummers I've heard. Shelly had great hands but it was his musicality that captures me. He could sit back and lay a swinging foundation or he could kick the band in the ass and stoke the fire. Great dynamics, great touch, great understanding of the FORM.

I recommend this one without reservation. The take of Love For Sale is my fave on this one.

There is a really fantastic album out there called "back to back" which features the Jazz mandolin wizards Jethro Burns and Tiny Moore,with, Eldon Shamblin, Shelly Manne,and Ray Browne. It's on Acoustic Disc label. Check it out!

russell

[kafkapenguin]

Originally Posted by ?uesto

Can't believe this is the first time I'm seeing this thread.

Mingus is probably the end-all for me, but I'm still pretty new to jazz in the grand scheme of things.

I also love Coltrane, Joe Henderson, and the later Miles stuff. Still so taken back by how extensive and expressive this style of music is. Totally new to playing and pretty new to listening.

Looking forward to reading through this thread.

Welcome to our little corner of the forums! Enjoy reading through, there's a ton of cool stuff posted throughout.

russell

[kafkapenguin]

Originally Posted by Elvis

When I feel like having my Jazz free, naked and totally unihibited, I reach for 40+ minutes of...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCek60uzvF0

Now THAT'S gettin' away from it all. =)



Elvis

I'm totally with you on the Trane man! Whoa! that cat could wail!

russell

[kafkapenguin]

Here's one for 8Mile...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72SVN9sO4P4

[kafkapenguin]

For the Steve Gadd fans out there...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDBti151E7k

[kafkapenguin]

Take an amazing Piano Trio and add an amazing Sax player and this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpAf0-rymE8

[kafkapenguin]

Another for 8Mile... hope you dig it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQF9bJE800s

[8Mile]

Originally Posted by kafkapenguin

Another for 8Mile... hope you dig it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQF9bJE800s

This is fantastic. Jack and Dave have a special chemistry together.

[kafkapenguin]

This is just sooooo good you Must have a listen! Whoa!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=661lgK6OTtY

[8Mile]

I somehow never saw this before just now. At least, not that I can remember. If someone already posted this, I somehow missed it. Anyway, this is just sublime. Papa Jo, beautifully filmed in a fantastic performance. Wow. http://youtu.be/eANTTBvIXmI

[8Mile]

Originally Posted by kafkapenguin

This is just sooooo good you Must have a listen! Whoa!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=661lgK6OTtY

Very nice. I saw Roy in the mid-90s. He sounds better now than he did then to me!

[BacteriumFendYoke]

Originally Posted by 8Mile

I somehow never saw this before just now. At least, not that I can remember. If someone already posted this, I somehow missed it. Anyway, this is just sublime. Papa Jo, beautifully filmed in a fantastic performance. Wow. http://youtu.be/eANTTBvIXmI

Aren't his hands just beautiful to watch?

[8Mile]

Originally Posted by BacteriumFendYoke

Aren't his hands just beautiful to watch?

They really are, BFY. That's the first thing that captured me.

It's funny, I watched a Max solo just before the Papa Jo clip and was thinking the same thing, how great his hands looked. From around the same time, too. The Papa Jo clip was one of the videos that appeared in that compound view of like 9 suggested videos that pops up right after a video ends.

Maybe YouTube marketing has refined the science of marketing to such an extent that they have cookies for "drummers with nice hands"? Wouldn't surprise me....

[BacteriumFendYoke]

Speaking of drummers with nice hands:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyOhXLjERzQ

I love watching Alex Riel playing. It's just sublime. His musical choices are stunning. I love the way he just backs right, right off when it's the right thing to do but keeps the energy going with intricate brushwork with just the right level of accenting on important points. His use of different cymbal tones is outstanding too.

I look at these guys play, then I look at my own hands and they just looked cramped and awkward!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ2IVTJXxY8

I've watched this video more times than I care to admit. It's the dynamic control that floors me every, single, &$^@*(& time.

[kafkapenguin]

Originally Posted by 8Mile

I somehow never saw this before just now. At least, not that I can remember. If someone already posted this, I somehow missed it. Anyway, this is just sublime. Papa Jo, beautifully filmed in a fantastic performance. Wow. http://youtu.be/eANTTBvIXmI

Wow indeed! I'm not much of a fan of drum solos but this is so amazingly lyrical and awesome! Thanks for the post!

[kafkapenguin]

Originally Posted by 8Mile

Very nice. I saw Roy in the mid-90s. He sounds better now than he did then to me!

I got to see him at the Teluride Jazz Fest this year and it was amazing in one of the most beautiful settings on the planet.

russell

[kafkapenguin]

Originally Posted by BacteriumFendYoke

Speaking of drummers with nice hands:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyOhXLjERzQ

I love watching Alex Riel playing. It's just sublime. His musical choices are stunning. I love the way he just backs right, right off when it's the right thing to do but keeps the energy going with intricate brushwork with just the right level of accenting on important points. His use of different cymbal tones is outstanding too.

I look at these guys play, then I look at my own hands and they just looked cramped and awkward!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ2IVTJXxY8

I've watched this video more times than I care to admit. It's the dynamic control that floors me every, single, &$^@*(& time.

I know the feeling... Amazing musicians all...

[Elvis]

I know there's already a thread concerning this, but I feel its more than appropriate in this thread, as well.

http://www.seattlepi.com/entertainme...es-4093342.php

...and in memorium, I give this, whose first few notes are simply the most perfect interpretation of snow falling that has ever been recorded...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9qgI95n6rM




Elvis

[Anthony Amodeo]

godspeed Dave

from one of my favorite live records ever

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFLIL...yer_embedded#!

[aaajn]

What struck me about DB is his interview from Ken Burns Jazz. I know that documentary may be offensive to some, I had a piano teacher who called it Jazz according to Wynton but I really enjoyed some of the clips. It was Brubeck talking about his dad bringing him to places where segregation was strangling the country and how he made Dave promise to fight against that intolerance. He was a great gift for his music and his humanity.

[Elvis]

I just realized, out of that whole band, only Eugene Wright is left now.
Wow. That was fast.


Elvis

[kafkapenguin]

Always sad when a legend leaves us.... The music lives on...

russell

[Numberless]

I'm playing Blue Rondo and Raggy Waltz with a saxophone ensemble on Monday, paying my tributes to one of the greats.

[kafkapenguin]

How about some Monk??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ9El7k4mNo

mind boggling great stuff!

[Anon La Ply]

Was reading an obit on Dave Brubeck and they talked about this piece, which I hadn't heard - killer! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZzcBmXdtc0

[Anthony Amodeo]

a drummer not talked about enough

Larry Bunker

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvveXCcmvPM

[Elvis]

I had this album for a while.
Took a little time to grow on me, but I loved this particular cut from the word go - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb0GIaBglWk


Elvis

[Elvis]

Originally Posted by Gvdadrummasum

a drummer not talked about enough

Larry Bunker

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvveXCcmvPM

"...and thus ends another episode of Bad Playhouse Theatre. I'm your host, Leonard Pinf Garnell. Good night."
I never knew that was an actual song. =)


Elvis

[kafkapenguin]

Can't imagine anything more then this...just blows me away...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnGhUTkGQyw

[12x7]

A fun way to play 4/4 is to phrase it 3 3 2. Two bars of 3 and a bar of 2 to turn it around. You can use the bar of 2 to do melodic fills.
Makes 4/4 sound kinda like odd meter.

Btw I studied with Joe Morello and he said that DB's time was all over the place. Lol

[Anthony Amodeo]

Originally Posted by 12x7

A fun way to play 4/4 is to phrase it 3 3 2. Two bars of 3 and a bar of 2 to turn it around. You can use the bar of 2 to do melodic fills.
Makes 4/4 sound kinda like odd meter.

Btw I studied with Joe Morello and he said that DB's time was all over the place. Lol

that is a classic way to approach the ride pattern..... especially in up tempos

where and when did you study with Joe?

Joe and I had a mutual friend and we would often share a beer and a sandwich at Joes favorite bar in Irvington NJ

[kafkapenguin]

So somehow I missed the news that there were two Bill Evans Quintets that recorded in 1962, but, happily have just discovered this here in 2012! Wow! Bill, Jim Hall, Percy Heath, a young Freddie Hubbard and Philly Jo! The other line up is Bill, Jim, Ron Carter Zoot Sims and Philly Jo... What amazing musicians! Blows my mind! Here's a sample:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxKo7kp5a6Y


Love discovering new things, even if they are old things. ;)

russell

[Elvis]

Originally Posted by 12x7

A fun way to play 4/4 is to phrase it 3 3 2. Two bars of 3 and a bar of 2 to turn it around. You can use the bar of 2 to do melodic fills.
Makes 4/4 sound kinda like odd meter.

Btw I studied with Joe Morello and he said that DB's time was all over the place. Lol

Here's a great opportunity to pass on some knowledge to those who may be less studied in the technical aspects, but still enjoy the music.

12x7, Maybe you could explain exactly what you mean by "3" and "2", from you earlier post...and for that matter, what is meant by the time signatures we often see, such as "4/4", or "3/4".


Elvis

[kafkapenguin]

This should wake everyone up! ;) TRENTON STYLE!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV7UQDyjTIM

enjoy!

russell

[12x7]

Originally Posted by Gvdadrummasum

that is a classic way to approach the ride pattern..... especially in up tempos

where and when did you study with Joe?

Joe and I had a mutual friend and we would often share a beer and a sandwich at Joes favorite bar in Irvington NJ

I did a two hour lesson at Long Island drum shop in the 90's. It was great!

[_Leviathan_]

I'm wondering if you jazz cats could give me some recommendations. :) My favorite jazz albums of all time are A Love Supreme by Coltrane and Empyrean Isles by Herbie Hancock. I love 1960's jazz of that type and want to get into more because that playing is just inspiring. The sound, the expression, technicality, the feeling. Any recommendations for that kind of style? I prefer quartets. Thanks!

[Numberless]

i was just listening to A Love Supreme! Have you checked out Mccoy Tyner's solo stuff? The Real Mccoy is a great place to start.

[Anthony Amodeo]

Originally Posted by _Leviathan_

I'm wondering if you jazz cats could give me some recommendations. :) My favorite jazz albums of all time are A Love Supreme by Coltrane and Empyrean Isles by Herbie Hancock. I love 1960's jazz of that type and want to get into more because that playing is just inspiring. The sound, the expression, technicality, the feeling. Any recommendations for that kind of style? I prefer quartets. Thanks!

I could recommend some of my favorites

Wynton Kelly - at midnight
Ahmad Jamal trio - at the Pershing
Art Farmer quartet - to sweden with love
Sonny Clark - Sonny's crib
Dizzy Gillespie - Sonny side up
Chick Corea - now he sings now he sobs
Eric Dolphy - out to lunch
Jackie McLean - lights out
- Vertigo
- one step beyond
Herbie Hancock - empyrean isles
Freddie Hubbard - hub-tones
Duke Ellington - money jungle
Sonny Rollins - freedom suite
- a night at the Village Vanguard
- saxophone colossus
Joe Henderson - in 'n out
Larry Young - unity
Wayne Shorter - juju
-spaek no evil
- night dreamer
Thelonious Monk - Monks dream
- criss cross
- big band and quartet in concert
McCoy Tyner - the real McCoy
- reaching fourth
- inception
Art Farmer - eleven


I could really go on all day ....but that could keep you busy for a while :)

and if you enjoy A Love Supreme ....check out Giant Steps , Coltrane , and all his other records

[8Mile]

Gvd covered a ton of great ones. That's a huge, excellent list that should keep you busy for a while.

If you love Herbie, the one I'd add is Maiden Voyage. Probably my favorite Herbie record and it features the title track that made Herbie famous as a composer and which he considers his finest piece of writing. It also has the sublime Dolphin Dance, probably my favorite Herbie composition.

And Tony Williams eats all the material alive. It's just an incredibly swinging, tasteful and inspired performance by young Tillmon throughout. One of his finest recordings, imo, and the magical Blue Note sound is on full display.