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Old 11-16-2012, 06:54 PM
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I like using a paradiddle-diddle this way.......this guys video is not great quality....but a great use of the rudiment .....very affective
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeCth...eature=related

paradiddle-diddle comes up a lot in jazz for me......for instance as an uptempo comp....putting it between the ride cymbal and snare drum .....starting it on 2 as Elvin often would


and I must check out that recording..

Jake Hanna was such a beast
That was a pretty cool video, but I think if it were me, I'd alternate - eithe tom or bass, but not both in the same figure.
So maybe - RLRRLTT, RLRRLFT, RLRRLB - something like that.
Spreads it out a little more and keeps it from being too much or too busy.
mix in a few cymbal hits on that last beat and it keeps it from being too "rudimentary".
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P.S. - I'm sure that guy was fairly limited on his recording equipment, but if he ever makes another vid like that again, he needs to SPEAK UP! I could barely hear him, even with my speakers cranked.
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This is swingin' - I am going to see Louis Hayes for the first time tomorrow!

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You are definately in for a treat, my friend.
...and thanks for posting that great vid.

...currently listening to a real classic...



Great album!




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Old 11-17-2012, 05:44 AM
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doesn't get much cooler than Papa Jo

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I would call this "Jazzy Pop", more than anything else, but it is a nice little horn solo in the beginning - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bNR_...ture=endscreen


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I may take a lot of heat from some folks but I love Wynton's stuff.

... Another killer collection of his is the Live at the Village Vanguard set with Herlin Riley.
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JimmyK put me on to this magical solo by Herlin R http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFvgCtomkqE

That groove he gets into is one of my favourite things.
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JimmyK put me on to this magical solo by Herlin R http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFvgCtomkqE

That groove he gets into is one of my favourite things.
Great solo and great band, I have always loved Herlin's playing with Wynton. So much command, clarity, and musicality! I feel like most of the Wynton-bashing I have heard is centered on non-music issues. I just love listening to his music, and I don't really care so much about the other stuff.
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check out the video when you get home 8.....real nice use of the paradiddle-diddle

it's nothing completely ground breaking ...but still really nice

it's just putting the last left on your foot and putting the 6 note phrase in a 16th note subdivision so it gives an over the barline feel
Just watched it. Yes, that's very cool, G. Not a sticking I would have thought to use in that fashion.
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doesn't get much cooler than Papa Jo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQT15...layer_embedded
Man, you sure can't. Style, finesse, showmanship, control, swing, dynamics, musicality. Just a motherf***er in every imaginable way. They don't build cats like Papa Jo anymore.
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More like, cats don't build themselves to be like Papa Jo anymore.
It's a different world now, my friend.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...=sxTSAUDl7XI#!

Amazing. Jack is one of my biggest inspirations of all time.
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One of my all-time heroes is Larry Bunker.
A stalwart of the LA studio scene beginning in the 1950's, Bunker was always a first-call musician.
If there was ever anyone that would make me say, "I wish I could play like that guy", Larry Bunker would be that guy.
This clip is from a tv show that aired in the early 60's ("Jazz Scene USA"), and features Larry playing with coronetist Shorty Rogers.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxqMl7U6Tyc



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One of my all-time heroes is Larry Bunker.
A stalwart of the LA studio scene beginning in the 1950's, Bunker was always a first-call musician.
If there was ever anyone that would make me say, "I wish I could play like that guy", Larry Bunker would be that guy.
This clip is from a tv show that aired in the early 60's ("Jazz Scene USA"), and features Larry playing with coronetist Shorty Rogers.
Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxqMl7U6Tyc



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love Bunker

never saw this clip

thanks for sharing

he sure makes those Luddys sound sweet huh?

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Thanks GV.
He does make those drums sound nice.
...of course, those are (I suppose) '62 Ludwig's, too.
That was the holy grail year for those drums for many years.
Something "magical" about the drums made that year, that wasn't present in drums made during subsiquent years.
Hal Blaine recorded a lot of the hits he was a part of, on his own set of '62 Ludwig's.
Literally, the sound of a generation.


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P.S. - Couldn't help but notice the pic of the Gretsch badge in your sig. I take it, you're a fan. Here's the great Tom Lonardo doing his thing on a Gretsch Custom bop kit - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzObA...feature=relmfu
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This is just outstandingly all around killer on so many levels! Whoa+++

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Old 11-21-2012, 12:39 AM
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There he is!
THAT'S the Dave Weckl I remember! =)
I wish someone would post the gig Weckl did with Jose Feliciano on the Charles Grodin Show back in the mid-90's, on Youtube.
That was something very special that night.



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Weckl and Gadd are two drummers who don't really play jazz like a jazz drummer would, but sound great playing it anyway.

I was very deep into Weckl around that time. When I first heard Got A Match off the first Elektric Band record, I flipped out. I immediately drove to my drummer friend's house and made him listen to it.
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True, 8 mile.
Both are probably best known as session players, although the thought of Weckl usually brings to mind the phrase, "white boy phunk".
Still, to be a top notch session player (actually, a musician, in general) you should be adept at a wide variety of musical styles, Jazz included.
True "chameleons" of the industry.
...and speaking of Steve Gadd...
Not sure if you're old enough to remember the 70's (and it's ok if you're not), but Gadd teamed up with some top notch players back then and formed a band called "Stuff".
One of the better "forgotten" bands of the period.
If you're unaware, check 'em out - http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xl3...eux-1976_music



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I'm not quite a Gadd completist, but pretty close. I'm well acquainted with Stuff. I had seen bits of that concert scattered on YouTube but never the full clip in your link. Thanks!
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Your welcome, 8 mile.

...and now, for your listening pleasure, a delightful little ditty that had many people puzzled for years, as to the name of the song and the artist who played it.
Myself, I thought it was Art Tatum.
Turns out, it was written by a guy named Robert Miller and it was only written for this commercial.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDmBLF4-PzA
Wish he'd expand it into a full song and include it on an album, but I've heard he has no interest in doing so.


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Check this out... I don't know this cat Ari Hoenig, but man he wails!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIGJJnQYHO4

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Some fantastic brush work great visuals...Awesome band...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDdI4KDEBeE
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Check this out... I don't know this cat Ari Hoenig, but man he wails!

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I like this even more than his cheese kit solo!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIGJJnQYHO4

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if you have just discovered Ari you are in for a treat

he is one best young jazz cats and is making a statement for sure

I absolutely recommend checking him out live when you get the chance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edLhTTENj_4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SctD6hDBphs
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I like this even more than his cheese kit solo!
You mean Han Bennink?
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Oh and I can't get enough of Ari Hoenig, love his playing so much!
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You mean Han Bennink?
Oh darn - they all look the same to me lol (especially tragic since I'm half Germanic)

I'm terrible with proper nous - mess them up all the time. Can't remember who corrected me when I referred to Moe Tucker as Moe Connolly (former top tennis player).

In a way, that piece with Ari H playing reminded me of Chris Dave, totally unafraid to add jarring elements.
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Check this out... I don't know this cat Ari Hoenig, but man he wails!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIGJJnQYHO4

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Wow.
Check out Ari, in the moment.
Very cool.

Ari, if you see this, bravo my friend, BRA-VO.

Thanks to Kafka for making us aware of this wonderful performance.




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The free stuff is under-represented here, so let's be Thankful over this holiday weekend that these cats graced our planet. Dewey and Don with the old Ornette rhythm section, featuring the *great* Ed Blackwell on drums: http://youtu.be/BeNMnMY9VWE
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if you have just discovered Ari you are in for a treat

he is one best young jazz cats and is making a statement for sure

I absolutely recommend checking him out live when you get the chance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edLhTTENj_4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SctD6hDBphs
I only stumbled across him looking for Kenny Werner cuts and was totally blown away with his playing. Thanks for these links.

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The free stuff is under-represented here, so let's be Thankful over this holiday weekend that these cats graced our planet. Dewey and Don with the old Ornette rhythm section, featuring the *great* Ed Blackwell on drums: http://youtu.be/BeNMnMY9VWE
Standards are my thing mostly but how can you not like this? Don playing pocket trumpet is always way cool... thanks for the link
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The free stuff is under-represented here, so let's be Thankful over this holiday weekend that these cats graced our planet. Dewey and Don with the old Ornette rhythm section, featuring the *great* Ed Blackwell on drums: http://youtu.be/BeNMnMY9VWE
Larry, that's that Ornette-ish zone I find too intense (apart from Lonely Woman - you got me on that one!). I first heard Don Cherry on Steve Hillage's L album. He did a fantastic atmospheric solo 5 mins into the Lunar Music Suite. What can I say? I'm a bit of a rock boofhead lol

I like this free http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah5OVkgUtF8 - playful like a Bugs Bunny soundtrack :)
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here is one I meant to share a while ago but forgot....then something dmacc mentioned in the piano trio thread reminded me

some of the best jazz you could even bless your ears with

Ahmad Jamal with Vernel Fournier on drums

Vernel is such a bad ass that there aren't even words to describe it

see how many of the cats standing around the piano you recognize

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Qc3VaXtW5M
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here is one I meant to share a while ago but forgot....then something dmacc mentioned in the piano trio thread reminded me

some of the best jazz you could even bless your ears with

Ahmad Jamal with Vernel Fournier on drums

Vernel is such a bad ass that there aren't even words to describe it

see how many of the cats standing around the piano you recognize

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Qc3VaXtW5M
Vernel pretty much was my biggest influence as far as brush work goes.

All-star cast for sure. I recognize Ben, Nat Hentoff, Papa Jo, Hank Jones, Buck Clayton, I think Vic Dickinson, I think George Duvivier,
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Vernel pretty much was my biggest influence as far as brush work goes.

All-star cast for sure. I recognize Ben, Nat Hentoff, Papa Jo, Hank Jones, Buck Clayton, I think Vic Dickinson, I think George Duvivier,
Vernel sounds like he is floating on a cloud

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here is one I meant to share a while ago but forgot....then something dmacc mentioned in the piano trio thread reminded me

some of the best jazz you could even bless your ears with

Ahmad Jamal with Vernel Fournier on drums

Vernel is such a bad ass that there aren't even words to describe it

see how many of the cats standing around the piano you recognize

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Qc3VaXtW5M
Many, many, many years ago I went to see Jerry Jeff Walker at a small club in Philly and when my friends and I got there there was a post in the window explaining that Jerry Jeff would not make it tonight and in his place they had Ahmad Jamal Trio. We didn't know anything about him other then he was Jazz and we opted to go somewhere else. Man I wish we had stayed! Oh the vagaries of youth. ;)

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Little talk of west coast jazz, so I'll offer up a personal fave. I can't find a YouTube link for this one, but here's the CD info http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/...le,+Vol.+1.htm

Shelly Manne was a mother******. One of the most tasteful drummers I've heard. Shelly had great hands but it was his musicality that captures me. He could sit back and lay a swinging foundation or he could kick the band in the ass and stoke the fire. Great dynamics, great touch, great understanding of the FORM.

I recommend this one without reservation. The take of Love For Sale is my fave on this one.
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A couple of years after that Shelly Manne album came out, Bill Evans was booked for a gig at Shelly's Manne-Hole.
It begat this wonderful album...



The liner notes were written by Chuck Israels and tells how this gig started Bill's second trio.
Pretty cool reading and a great addition for anyone collection.

...btw, as I write this, I am listening to this great little sampler...



...now with complimentary youtube video feed!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lfg4FJ4piDQ


Enjoy! =)



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Little talk of west coast jazz, so I'll offer up a personal fave. I can't find a YouTube link for this one, but here's the CD info http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/...le,+Vol.+1.htm

Shelly Manne was a mother******. One of the most tasteful drummers I've heard. Shelly had great hands but it was his musicality that captures me. He could sit back and lay a swinging foundation or he could kick the band in the ass and stoke the fire. Great dynamics, great touch, great understanding of the FORM.

I recommend this one without reservation. The take of Love For Sale is my fave on this one.
Shelly Manne is featured on the same DVD of "Jazz Scene USA" that I got the Shorty Rogers vid from, in an earlier post.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrX6Dgaoa2Y

I don't know what's cooler; The way Shelly swings, or the late model Leedy kit he's playing on. =)



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The free stuff is under-represented here, so let's be Thankful over this holiday weekend that these cats graced our planet. Dewey and Don with the old Ornette rhythm section, featuring the *great* Ed Blackwell on drums: http://youtu.be/BeNMnMY9VWE
When I feel like having my Jazz free, naked and totally unihibited, I reach for 40+ minutes of...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCek60uzvF0

Now THAT'S gettin' away from it all. =)



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