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Old 06-06-2012, 10:16 PM
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Default Ddrum Dominion vs. Gretsch Catalina Maple

Hi, thanks for the suggestions I also found these kits http://ottawa.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-se...AdIdZ377143928
Can anyone identify the model for the Premier kit?
Good deal?

http://ottawa.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-se...AdIdZ371908396
Are milestone kits good quality?Good deal?

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Old 06-06-2012, 10:38 PM
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Default Re: Ddrum Dominion vs. Gretsch Catalina Maple

D Drum has quality control issues,and are a relativly new acoustic drum maker.Go with Gretsch or Tama,who have been building quality drums a lot longer.The Tama superstars are a birch shell compared to the maple Gretsch,and will sound different,so you're comparing apples to oranges.Both will sound good,but different,so your ear has to be the judge.Neither in my opinion is better than the other......just different.

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Old 06-06-2012, 10:44 PM
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Default Re: Ddrum Dominion vs. Gretsch Catalina Maple

All three kits have a different tom lay out and size difference.

What sizes is best is based strictly on your preference.

The Tama is the better "deal" since it comes with cymbals. If you can live with that finish, only you can know.

The Gretch is expandable, since it's still in production.

As for which is "best" pretty much every drum kit in that price range is made from shells from the same factory, so the differences are minor.

If I had to choose from the 3, I'd take the Gretch. But that is based on my biases as to sizes and color.
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Old 06-06-2012, 11:21 PM
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Default Re: Ddrum Dominion vs. Gretsch Catalina Maple

In order of preference I'd choose Gretsch, then Tama, then Ddrum.
Gretsch - nicer finish, better resale value, larger deeper floor tom(s), maple
Tama - finish is killer (but might not work for the 'wedding band' gigs). The 14 x 10 floor tom is neat but kinda small for me.
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Old 06-07-2012, 01:29 PM
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Default Re: Ddrum Dominion vs. Gretsch Catalina Maple

Yodan, I have a Tama EFX kit, only mine is white satin flame. I will tell you that they are really great drums. The quality is first rate. The bearing edges (at least on mine) are as good as they get. The chrome plating on the die cast rims and lugs etc. is first class. I have just recently owned a Mapex Saturn and I currently own a Gretsch Renown that I'm comparing my Superstars to and they do not take a back seat to either in terms of quality build. Really well made drums. The choice is really up to you and sizes and finish need to be taken into consideration. Good luck. John
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Old 06-07-2012, 07:10 PM
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I'd say go with either the Gretsch or the Tama. I've used Tamas over the years and they've always held up but that finish! What were they thinking? You might want to consider the Mapex Meridian line of maple sets as well. As to DDrum, I've pretty much written them off due to multiple problems with their total lack of quality control. They probably won't be in the market too much longer. There's just too much competition from reputable drum companies.
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Old 06-07-2012, 08:36 PM
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Default Re: Ddrum Dominion vs. Gretsch Catalina Maple

A bit more expensive, but this is a smokin' deal!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gretsch-Reno...item2ebed6c23c
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Old 06-07-2012, 09:39 PM
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Default Re: Ddrum Dominion vs. Gretsch Catalina Maple

I had it down between a Gretsch catalina maple and DDrum about 5 years back. I don't know how DDrum's product has changed since then but I am so very happy I went with the catalina maple.
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Old 06-08-2012, 12:05 AM
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Default Re: Ddrum Dominion vs. Gretsch Catalina Maple

I haven't seen much success with DDrum either.
I like the Tama in this case, but that is me.
Remember heads will make a huge difference too.

Good Luck, spend the bucks!!!
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Old 06-08-2012, 12:13 AM
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I'm actually a fan of ddrum's products. I used to have a Diablo Punx kit, and it sounds great. This isn't aimed at anyone particular, but I think ddrum gets a bad rap just because they're a really new company. It was founded in the early 80s I believe, and only made electronic drum accessories. I don't think they made actual kits until the mid-nineties (don't quote me on that).

I've never had anything break on a ddrum kit, and they always sound nice. In fact, the Diablo Punx kit I had sounded better than a lot of Pearl kits I've played on.

What I'm saying is: don't listen to people who have a lot of negativity toward ddrum, or any company. Try them yourself. But if it comes down to ddrum vs any newer Gretsch kit, I'll pick ddrum everytime. But those older Grestch kits can't be beaten, except maybe by Sonor.
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Old 06-08-2012, 02:47 AM
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Default Re: Ddrum Dominion vs. Gretsch Catalina Maple

I have seen 2 Ddrum kits that looked and sounded great (my teacher owns them).

Love my catalinas and tamas equally and a little more though.
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Old 06-09-2012, 07:37 PM
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Default Re: Ddrum Dominion vs. Gretsch Catalina Maple

Hi, thanks for the suggestions I also found these kits http://ottawa.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-se...AdIdZ377143928
Can anyone identify the model for the Premier kit?
Good deal?

http://ottawa.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-se...AdIdZ371908396
Are milestone kits good quality?Good deal?

Is Gretsch Catalina Maple still better choice?
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Old 06-10-2012, 12:19 AM
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Default Re: Ddrum Dominion vs. Gretsch Catalina Maple

The Premiers are nice except the floor tom isn't a match. I think the kit is an old XPK or APK. I wouldn't touch the other one. As for Catalina vs. Ddrum, Gretsch hands down.
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Old 06-10-2012, 12:51 AM
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Default Gretsch Catalina Maple vs. Catalina Club Rock

I also found a catalina club rock but which one whould be better?(I like playing funk styles of music)
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Old 06-10-2012, 04:47 PM
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Default Re: Ddrum Dominion vs. Gretsch Catalina Maple

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The Premiers are nice except the floor tom isn't a match. I think the kit is an old XPK or APK. I wouldn't touch the other one. As for Catalina vs. Ddrum, Gretsch hands down.
Whould the Premier kit be as good as the Gretsch Catalina Maple?
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Old 06-10-2012, 06:17 PM
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Default Re: Ddrum Dominion vs. Gretsch Catalina Maple

In my opinion, yes. Premier made great stuff back then. Just check it out in person and judge for yourself.

I also suggest going to Dave's drum shop. He's got some great stuff in stock and lots of used/vintage as well.
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Old 06-13-2012, 06:26 AM
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Default Re: Ddrum Dominion vs. Gretsch Catalina Maple

I agree about checking for yourself but you should learn from the mistakes of others as well. In the case of Ddrum, I bought one of their "Grey Ghost" snares. I noticed soon afterward that the powdercoat on 4 of the lugs was "bubbled" for lack of a better word. The finish on the lugs looked like it had air bubbles under it. I tried out the drum anyway and I liked the sound. I thought that I'd try different heads. This is when I discovered that was a really sloppy weld on the >outside< of the drum where they had seamed the shell together. I've done welding and this was the worst finishing job that I've ever seen. They chose to hide this god-awful exterior weld by placing one of the tuning lugs where the tuning bolt would obscure the sloppy welding job. I've never seen this in any other drum that I've owned in over 40 years of drumming. There is NO excuse for this shoddy a grade of workmanship. Be careful when you buy brands like Ddrum. Don't buy any of their products without closely inspecting them first. If at all possible go with an established brand.
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Old 06-17-2012, 06:05 PM
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Default Sonor S-Class vs. Gretsch Catalina Maple vs. Tama Superstar

Sonor S-Class 10,12,14,20 maple shell pack. Made in Germany. Only $699 vs. Gretsch Catalina Maple vs. Tama Superstar shell pack. 11,13,16,22 and snare cast hoops! Only $399

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=1&theater

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=1&theater

http://www.davesdrumshop.com/Acousti...6+pc+Set+Ebony

Which one would be better?
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Premier 18,12,14 made in the UK. Cool little set $499
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Old 06-17-2012, 07:41 PM
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Default Re: Ddrum Dominion vs. Gretsch Catalina Maple

I'd go with the Tama,and buy better cymbals.But you have to get over the "which is better" thing.At a certain price point,most of these drums made by established drum companys are just different...........NOT better.The difference is for the most part in sound, due to shell material,and quality of the bearing edge cut.Thats why I said to stay away from Ddrum.Some of their stuff is ok,but EVERY drum shop I use has told me the same thing.Quality control is just a rumor.In other words,NOT anywhere near consistant.

Go with Tama,Gretsch ect.,and again,comparing a maple shell to a birch shell,is apples and oranges.......they will both sound good,but different,and NOT better.

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Old 06-17-2012, 07:56 PM
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Default Re: Ddrum Dominion vs. Gretsch Catalina Maple

I'd go with the Tama,and buy better cymbals.But you have to get over the "which is better" thing.At a certain price point,most of these drums made by established drum companys are just different...........NOT better.The difference is for the most part in sound, due to shell material,and quality of the bearing edge cut.Thats why I said to stay away from Ddrum.Some of their stuff is ok,but EVERY drum shop I use has told me the same thing.Quality control is just a rumor.In other words,NOT anywhere near consistant.

Go with Tama,Gretsch ect.,and again,comparing a maple shell to a birch shell,is apples and oranges.......they will both sound good,but different,and NOT better.

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Old 06-18-2012, 12:08 AM
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Default Pacific Drums By Dw X7 Maple vs. Gretsch Catalina Maple

How about these?
http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Drums-...words=dw+drums

Meridian Maple
http://www.amazon.com/Meridian-Maple...keywords=Mapex

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Old 06-18-2012, 10:44 AM
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Default Re: Pacific Drums By Dw X7 Maple vs. Gretsch Catalina Maple

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I'd say Mapex, mainly because I'm a fan of them. BUT you might wanna look out for the new PDP Concept Series.
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Old 06-18-2012, 11:10 AM
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Default Re: Ddrum Dominion vs. Gretsch Catalina Maple

The Sonor's are a good deal and I think all the other drums are made in China. That may or might not bother you. Myself I would go with the Gretsch over the others if you didn't like Sonor. Honestly my vote goes for Sonor or Gretsch. I think either will sound better than the PDP or Mapex kits.

Get what you like and can afford. If anything invest now in great hardware and pro cymbals. Also what heads will the used kits come with? Looks like the Sonor had Evans on it already which are great. Stock heads that come with most kits leave a lot to be desired IMHO.
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Old 06-19-2012, 03:22 AM
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Default Premier XPK vs. Gretsch Catalina Maple

http://ottawa.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-se...AdIdZ377533148
I asked for $850.00
Is the Premier XPK a good deal?(better than Gretsch?)

http://www.davesdrumshop.com/Acousti...6+pc+Set+Ebony
Or should I still stick with the Gretsch?

(The reason I keep comparing drums is because I want to find the right drums for me, my last choice was not the best.(Sonor Force 505))
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Old 06-19-2012, 03:37 AM
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Default Re: Premier XPK vs. Gretsch Catalina Maple

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http://ottawa.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-se...AdIdZ377533148
I asked for $850.00
Is the Premier XPK a good deal?(better than Gretsch?)

http://www.davesdrumshop.com/Acousti...6+pc+Set+Ebony
Or should I still stick with the Gretsch?

(The reason I keep comparing drums is because I want to find the right drums for me, my last choice was not the best.(Sonor Force 505))
Gretsch. Definitely the Gretsch.
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Old 06-19-2012, 03:55 AM
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http://ottawa.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-se...AdIdZ377533148
I asked for $850.00
Is the Premier XPK a good deal?(better than Gretsch?)

http://www.davesdrumshop.com/Acousti...6+pc+Set+Ebony
Christ $1000 or best offer for that Premier set?? Look at the condition it's in. I wouldn't give more than $300. That Premier kit above is one reason I don't buy used. To know that something I bought was possibly in the hands of some disgusting dirty people like that just turns me off. Except for cars, I try and never buy used if I can help it and from what I can remember haven't bought used except for the cars that I have owned. I like being the only one to of owned my belongings and let me tell you there is nothing more rewarding then shelling out hard earned money on brand new things and to know you are the only one who has touched and cared for them.

Now with that said, you have a total of 7 posts and your main topic of discussion was ddrum vs Gretsch. Then you went on to ask opinions about pretty much every set that's available to mankind. What is it exactly that you are looking for out of a set?? Odds are you will get a +1 for every drum company and drum set from each drummer here because they are either fans of one or have played on one. You need to do research for yourself and look to yourself to really know what you want. Look up Youtube video's of the brands and sets you like, listen to them (un EQ'd if possible) and then ask your self how many drums you want, what kind of wood you want to try, etc and so on. Really you are going no where with your questions and are only digging your self deeper into a hole which will make it harder for a decision to be made.
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