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Old 05-15-2012, 04:44 PM
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Default New Lignum drums finished !!!

Can I give you 1 more update ? ... I won't promise its the last one :p !

New title ..

<< ALL THINGS UNDERNEATH my LIGNUM :D >>

Today I finally finished work on my setup, regarding positioning and marking everything down onto the carpet. I used to have duct-tape all over my stands and carpet, but for the Lignum drum kit I want it to be as classy as possible :).

In the first place I bought myself a small Brother label printer (25 €) to mark every stand with its letter code (A-E), every clamp with an extra symbol (A+,B+,D+,D-, ...). With the booms already memory locked, its pretty easy to find out which stand it belongs too.
Floortom legs have a code from 1 to 6 .. and a marking on the drumhead so that the Lignum logo plate is facing outwards ... yeah, I go pretty into detail :D !

For the carpet I had placed wooden blocks for the bas drum spurs and pedal. Only thing to do was to mark the position of the 5 stands .. not with duct-tape ...







... yes, directly paint it onto the carpet ! A lot of work, but it just looks so much better ... see for yourself ;) :







^ Every place its code and direction responding to the stand-label.





^ All 5 stands into place (exception for hi-hat and double bass pedal .. the hi-hat stand is to be replaced with a 2-leg version).



^ Detail of the added floor tom markings



^ And the whole kit :)



^ ... much better than that gray duct tape on the carpet from my old kit right ?

Yeah, I'm a freak .. I know ;) !

Cheers

PS ... zoom recordings still coming soon (or later).

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ABSOLUTE LAST UPDATE :p ... small recording.

Finally I have a small recording of my Lignum set ... the Yamaha Pockettrack C24 in front of it (mp3 - highest quality).
Zoom-recordings will be in a few weeks I guess.

TOO LISTEN ?? ... CLICK HERE >> http://soundcloud.com/kristof-michie...ms-with-yamaha

I will post a new thread in "Your playing" to make myself clear.

By :) !

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FINAL UPDATE :) ... my Lignum set is home !!!

And here she is :









This is a full setup of all the gear I have, smaller setups will come later. I got everything memory locked to perfection (a few things to do). All gear hanging from just 5 stands .. I think it is amazing. Tama hardware, clamps and stuff is so sturdy .. you can hang a big china up in the air :).

But as impressive as it may look .. the sound from the kit is insanely good !!! I never came across a snare this good, those toms sing "the opera" like nothing, huge sounding floor toms. Heads on toms are (for now) Remo Ambassadors (top) over clear (bottom). Bass drum has Remo PS3 coated vs Ambassador white.

The 24" x 14" bass drum has such a nice low thunder ... it doesn't overpower the set at all. It fits perfectly between toms, snare, floors.

Its really a perfect wedding :) ... (actually its all from the same tree)

What about the 20" bas / floor tom ? ... as a 20" kick I didn't expect it to be so huge in sound. So warm and fat, I think this kick will be useful a lot !

In the floor tom configuration this bas drum is capable of producing a very deep boomy sound ... nothing like a (single headed) gong drum. The resonance is quit amazing (> 9 seconds).

Can you tell I'm a happy man ? :)

I really have to learn how to play this set ... the respons is so direct. For example, if you give those toms a hard hit .. they respond whit a loud clear tone you'd hear a mile away :P.

All my thanks to Gert Breughelmans, a hero in my book !!!

Enjoy the pics, sound files may come later ;).

Cheers guys !

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Hello guys :),

I can finally update this threat with new pics of my finished Lignum kit !!!

... YES ... I'm serious !!!

Tomorrow I'm gonna get the kit @ Lignum drums Belgium ... I'm so damn excited :P !!!

Here are some pics Gert Breughelmans allowed me to post (take a breath first) :







More pics to come, when setup is finished in a few days :))) !!!

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Today 15 may, my Birthday, has been my lucky day :))) ...

... Gert Breughelmans from Lignum drums (Belgium) has send me the first picture of my custom Lignum drum in progress.

This special set started from a birch tree which has been cut in 2007 :



The set is now halfway done, it only needs hardware and heads ... but it already looks stunning !!!



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Lignum Custom - birch staves

24"x14" bassdrum
20"x14" bassdrum / floortom
10"x7,5" tomtom
12"x8" tomtom
14"x12" floortom
16"x13" floortom
14"x6" snare

More to come when it gets alive !!!
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Old 05-15-2012, 05:02 PM
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Wow!!!!

Natural whole wood goodness. Sick and sweet at the same time. Keep us posted with more drum porn.
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Old 05-15-2012, 05:30 PM
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Wow!!!!

Natural whole wood goodness. Sick and sweet at the same time.
Agreed, there's something very satisfying about tracking your instrument from felled timber to finished item.

@ Clone, happy birchday mate :) !
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Old 05-15-2012, 05:58 PM
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Agreed, there's something very satisfying about tracking your instrument from felled timber to finished item.

@ Clone, happy birchday mate :) !
You made my day .. lol .. birchday ;))) !!

I now know that the next pictures I'll get will be of the finished set. If only looks matter, it already was worth the money .. but these babies gonna sound so good !!!!!

As promised .. pics & recordings (Gert got a zoom-recorder) in the following weeks !

Thnx for you're comments guys !!!
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Now THAT'S exciting. Super cool.
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Oh, my... that's one beautiful!
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Oh, my... that's one beautiful!

Thanks guys :) !

I just can't imagine the joy I'll have playing them ... this is the second Lignum 24" bass drum ever made (first one in Birch).

Gert told me he once compared a Mapex 24" Saturn bass drum with a 22" Lignum ... the Lignum surpassed the Mapex both in volume and depth ...

... so I thought ... what would a 24" be like :D ?

His answer : INSANE :P

Thats what I want Gert Breughelmans :) !

Second kick (20") is for all other situations where less volume is required ;).
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2007. Man that is some nice seasoned wood. congrats on what looks like it will be one monster set or capable of being divided into bop, jazz or any other configuration.
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2007. Man that is some nice seasoned wood. congrats on what looks like it will be one monster set or capable of being divided into bop, jazz or any other configuration.
Thanks man !

That was exactly the idea I had for my dream-kit, capable of being a big rock-set or being converted into a small jazz bop-kit and everything in between :) .

Special future for the 20" kick ... it will have 3 mounts for floor-tom legs to convert to a sort of gong-bassdrum/ stand-alone bass drum.

Lignum not only makes its own lugs (in brass), the floor-tom legs are now made from stainless steel 12 mm (fitted with Pearl floor-tom ends).

August last year, I decided to start gaining the fonds for it.
31-12, I got half the money and placed the order :).

And now (may 2012) I have all funds ready :) :).

The set will come with Stagg cases (as Gert prefers .. they're pro-series are super-beef !!) for the whole kit.

Likely things to add: new hi-hatstand (Tama Iron Cobra/Speed Cobra), double tom stand, some extra clamps, memory locks, big and small carpet, ...

On the wish list a little further: Sabian AAX stadium ride :D ... Sabian Aero crash :D

Why not making ur dreams true .. when you can :D !!! *


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High-quality, hand-made drums are incredibly special things. Your kit looks great, even just as raw shells. I'm sure it'll be everything you're expecting.

The excitement is palpable. It's the best kind of relationship to have with an instrument and I'm sure the manufacturer will have just as much excitement about making the kit. That's how it should be.
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High-quality, hand-made drums are incredibly special things. Your kit looks great, even just as raw shells. I'm sure it'll be everything you're expecting.

The excitement is palpable. It's the best kind of relationship to have with an instrument and I'm sure the manufacturer will have just as much excitement about making the kit. That's how it should be.
I totally agree with you ;) !
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Congratulations and happy birthday! I have a Lignum black cherry snare drum. It is beautiful and made with great care and skill, and it sounds awesome. I'm positive you will love your kit when it arrives. Can't wait to see the next round of pics. Take care and regards from Perth.
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Congratulations and happy birthday! I have a Lignum black cherry snare drum. It is beautiful and made with great care and skill, and it sounds awesome. I'm positive you will love your kit when it arrives. Can't wait to see the next round of pics. Take care and regards from Perth.
Thank you !

Couldn't have a better birthday-week ... I'm drooling whole week now :D.

Cherry is such a nice wood as well, especially the looks !!!
Did it come with wood hoops, brass hoops or the normal hoops ?

Recently he got his own design Lignum snare-strainer .. its gorgeous as well !

Lignum drums are so good, they appear only very often in the second-hand market.

I expect the kit to be finished in a few weeks :) ...

... and of course I'll share it with the rest of the world :D !
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Did it come with wood hoops, brass hoops or the normal hoops ?

Recently he got his own design Lignum snare-strainer .. its gorgeous as well !


Hello. I ordered my black cherry with the full brass hardware and the new snare mechanism (which works very nicely). Here are some pictures. All the best.



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Did it come with wood hoops, brass hoops or the normal hoops ?

Recently he got his own design Lignum snare-strainer .. its gorgeous as well !


Hello. I ordered my black cherry with the full brass hardware and the new snare mechanism (which works very nicely). Here are some pictures. All the best.



That looks amazing !!!

I love the look of his own design lugs .. looks very classy !

Enjoy playing / staring @ it ;) !
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Ok guys, I edited this threat for the last update of my set ... hopely you can get a sight at it ;) !

Or do I have to start a new threat ?

See ye ;) !
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Man the possibilities are limitless. I love the bass/floor tom combo. Have a great day drooling.
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Man the possibilities are limitless. I love the bass/floor tom combo. Have a great day drooling.
I came up with the idea of having a second bass drum in a different width and asked Gert if I could have floor tom legs on that bass drum ... so I could use it as gong-bassdrum.

No problem !!!

The floor tom brackets he uses can be fully closed without legs in it, so they don't rattle when played as bass drum.

Still 1/2 day dreaming before I can go to Lignum drums to finally get them :D !!!

I will test all possibilities in the next days/weeks/months to come. Later this day I'll have some sound clips of this beast ;) !

Thnx for your breath :P !!!
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Wait till you hear the sound this beast is capable of producing ... you'll need a couple of pants, I will need a truck of pants :P !!!

Can you believe I'm excited ? :D

More pics and soundclips to come bro's !!!


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And final update ^ see above guys ;) !

For some reason the threat seems to slip away a little :p.

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That's so gorgeous! Right, on man! Love the sizes, love the look, love the versatility, love the fact that you play a 20" and a 24", and love that you made them yourself!
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Wow, gorgeous set. The big shallow bass gives it a very retro vibe, but the stave construction marks it as modern.
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That's so gorgeous! Right, on man! Love the sizes, love the look, love the versatility, love the fact that you play a 20" and a 24", and love that you made them yourself!
Thanks for the kind words ;) !!! ... I'm in love as well now !

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That's a real work of art - a beauty to behold.
Yeah, Gert is amazing ... every set he makes is stunning. This is just the 2nd 24" bass drum he ever made ... I hope to see some more in the future !

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Wow, gorgeous set. The big shallow bass gives it a very retro vibe, but the stave construction marks it as modern.
As said above ^... its just the 2nd 24" bass drum he ever made. From the start it was all clear that you don't need any deeper than 14" ... keeps it very versatile !
These days Gert is popular for correcting bearing edges and shortening bass drums ... all those 22"x20" canons go back to 22"x14" :p.

The finish is amazing ... first idea was a burst or something. Glad that choice didn't make it to the end :) !

Thanks guys for the kind words ... makes my day even more :) !!!
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FINAL UPDATE :)
the respons is so direct.
Super congratulations on your wonderful stave kit. The sounds you're describing are no surprise to me, & if you've never played a well conceived & quality built stave kit, it's difficult to appreciate just how much more responsive they are. I especially like the sizes you've chosen, & yes, I guarantee that 20" bass drum will get a lot of use. It punches well above it's weight :)

On a general note, it's so good to see a player supporting a local quality builder with their patronage, & being so delighted with the result. You have something unique, that could not be bought off the shelf. We're not talking about a special veneer on a standard ply shell, or non standard size here, we're talking about an instrument of fundamentally distinctive voice & character, from a company that builds their own shells from scratch, not bought in. This is not an instrument where the buzz of discovery will fade quickly. Superb!!!!!!
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Absolutely stunning looking drums, I love the graphics on the bass drum heads too :)
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That is absolutely beautiful. I've played a few stave kits and can happily say how wonderful they are. I'm sure your Lignum kit is everything you've ever wanted. Just beautiful.

I also love what has been done with the 20" bass drum. The three floor tom leg brackets give you some great opportunities for mounting the drum - and even for mounting cymbals if you want to. All of my bass drums (16", 20" and 22") have a bracket for mounting a cymbal arm and it's one of the best decisions I've made with my kits.

I hope that you get as much pleasure out of playing these as you deserve. I will echo Andy's thoughts here and say that it's great to see you using a local builder who puts so much love, care and attention into producing genuinely World-class instruments.
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Super congratulations on your wonderful stave kit. The sounds you're describing are no surprise to me, & if you've never played a well conceived & quality built stave kit, it's difficult to appreciate just how much more responsive they are. I especially like the sizes you've chosen, & yes, I guarantee that 20" bass drum will get a lot of use. It punches well above it's weight :)

On a general note, it's so good to see a player supporting a local quality builder with their patronage, & being so delighted with the result. You have something unique, that could not be bought off the shelf. We're not talking about a special veneer on a standard ply shell, or non standard size here, we're talking about an instrument of fundamentally distinctive voice & character, from a company that builds their own shells from scratch, not bought in. This is not an instrument where the buzz of discovery will fade quickly. Superb!!!!!!
Thanks :) !!! You're totally right ... I'm smiling all day now :) !

Simply put ... I rather have my Lignum kit I paid myself (after working hard) then having a full endorsement of a major brand !

Last week I heard a Tama Starclassic Bubinga Omnitune on a clinic @ Adams (Belgium) with 24"x18" bass drum and 18" bass drum ... this kit really disappointed in sound !!

The kit will only sound better when aging :) !!!

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Absolutely stunning looking drums, I love the graphics on the bass drum heads too :)
Done by GK Drumsticks .. my guitarist did the artwork design, it turned out quit well :) !!

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That is absolutely beautiful. I've played a few stave kits and can happily say how wonderful they are. I'm sure your Lignum kit is everything you've ever wanted. Just beautiful.

I also love what has been done with the 20" bass drum. The three floor tom leg brackets give you some great opportunities for mounting the drum - and even for mounting cymbals if you want to. All of my bass drums (16", 20" and 22") have a bracket for mounting a cymbal arm and it's one of the best decisions I've made with my kits.

I hope that you get as much pleasure out of playing these as you deserve. I will echo Andy's thoughts here and say that it's great to see you using a local builder who puts so much love, care and attention into producing genuinely World-class instruments.
Actually Gert mounted the floor tom brackets in such way on the bass drum, that when you set it up as bass drum you have a bracket on the ride side of the kit .. to put a cymbal mount in it or so. Also the brackets can be closed so they don't rattle when playing the bass.

These details make it all worthed :) !!!

I enjoy the kit every day more and more ... its like the drum is challenging you to new playing levels :p.

Of course I love your comments as well guys ^ :) !

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Congratulations! That's a very nice lookin' kit - it was worth the wait! Have fun with it and thanks for sharing.
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Thanks Dave ... especially in the last weeks it was hard to wait for it :P !

Now I know how drums should sound !!! ... the overall response and harmony of the kit is just mind-blowing.

No doubt .. I've years of fun ahead of me :) !

Sharing is no problem at all :p .
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Now I know how drums should sound !!! ... the overall response and harmony of the kit is just mind-blowing.
Any chances to have a little demo of this gorgeous kit on a video, or at least a sound file?
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Gert Breughelmans (Lignum) owns a Zoom recorder, and I expect him to come over here in a few weeks to deliver the rest of the cases.

We'll make a video by then !

In the meanwhile, I grab my Yamaha Pochettrack 24C the other day and make a first recording of the kit ...

... I promise ;) !!!
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Gert Breughelmans (Lignum) owns a Zoom recorder, and I expect him to come over here in a few weeks to deliver the rest of the cases.

We'll make a video by then !

In the meanwhile, I grab my Yamaha Pochettrack 24C the other day and make a first recording of the kit ...

... I promise ;) !!!
Great news, I look forward to your posting :)
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Gert Breughelmans (Lignum) owns a Zoom recorder, and I expect him to come over here in a few weeks to deliver the rest of the cases.

We'll make a video by then !

In the meanwhile, I grab my Yamaha Pochettrack 24C the other day and make a first recording of the kit ...

... I promise ;) !!!
A zoom recording without any processing would be great! Most of us know the abilities & limitations of a Zoom, & that means we have an honest benchmark to work from. Looking forward to that :)
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i almost missed this edited final peak. the drums look amazing, I love the whole design package, the lugs, sizes, set up. Bang on the money.
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No problem !! ... the zoom-recording coming later .. the mp3-recording sooner with my Yamaha Pockettrack C24 - no processing Guru-guy ;) !!

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i almost missed this edited final peak. the drums look amazing, I love the whole design package, the lugs, sizes, set up. Bang on the money.
This is really my all time dream kit ... I can not think of anything more I want in a kit (except for some minor cymbal changes).

The 24" fits me perfectly .. as the 20" .. the 10" tom, 12", 14", 16" oh .. and especially the 14" snare :P !!!

Thanks for ye comment !

Soundfiles comming close !!!
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Congrats!!! You drum kit is really well built and looks beatiful. it's every drummer dream to have a kit built according to our all specifications and 8 also think is reaaly cool that all the wood used in your drum set comes from the same tree.

I have one constructive critism, IMO you ride/china stand set up is overly complicated. Why don't you mount the china on the stand and use a clamp and a boom for your ride? That would look cleaner and be more stable.
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Congrats!!! You drum kit is really well built and looks beatiful. it's every drummer dream to have a kit built according to our all specifications and 8 also think is reaaly cool that all the wood used in your drum set comes from the same tree.

I have one constructive critism, IMO you ride/china stand set up is overly complicated. Why don't you mount the china on the stand and use a clamp and a boom for your ride? That would look cleaner and be more stable.
Thanks for the comment :) !!

About the ride/china stand :

I've started a completely new setup for this kit from scratch, beginning with the drums themselves and the relation between hi-hat-snare-ride. After I got all crashes into place, I had to find a place for my 20" china which I don't use a lot. The only place there was left, is above the ride :).

With my new clamp from Tama: the MC67 (for mounting pipes from 19 to about 28mm) it was pretty easy to get a sturdy connection to the ride-stand. I took a cymbal stand apart .. the upper half .. and inserted it into the clamp. Just a short extension for the long boom arm to get over the ride enough ... et voila :) .

You can take my word for it .. it is sturdy as hell !!

The advantage of mounting this way, is that the ride stand always is in use for the ride .. and if there is need for the china, I can easily mount the clamp (just 2 joints to mark .. and the clamp itself).

And for looks, I like to have a scorpion in my setup :p.

All things has to be road tested ;) .. there can be changes over time.

Later I'm gonna try some small setups .. just put 1 or 2 stands away (including clamps) and you have a small setup with 2 crashes and a ride :).

Its such a joy trying new setups !

See ye !
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