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Old 04-25-2012, 03:30 AM
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Default Just got my Aquarian drum heads and I'm no too happy :|

I just received my 1st set of Response 2 Aquarian Heads (Clear) for my 8" 10" 12" 14" tom heads on my Mapex M-Birch and Im not to happy with how they sound right now.

I'm not sure if its the tuning or just because they're new heads and need to be worked in, but the drum heads I feel have too much of a "tang" sound to them. Im trying to go for a low tuning on my drums (without damaging the drum heads from loose tuning) so I tuned them with my drum dial to 78' evenly on both sides of the drum. On the resonant side I have the stock Remo / Mapex heads that originally came with my set.

Before these heads I had the Remo Weather King Coated heads that got a deep and warm sound out of the drum.

Any advice on either tuning the drums low? Or is it just a matter of time until the heads loosen up? Any suggested drum dial values?

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Old 04-25-2012, 04:20 AM
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Default Re: Just got my Aquarian drum heads and I'm no too happy :|

Hi man!
I use an Aquarian clear reso head on my snare and it gives a good sound. My set also has (as yours) the stocks heads on the reso side of the high tom and floor toom...they sound good as well. Remember that Tuning is all about (ears & feel) and patience to achieve it...

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Old 04-25-2012, 05:08 AM
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Default Re: Just got my Aquarian drum heads and I'm no too happy :|

you probably haven't seated your drum heads yet... the reason why your old heads sounded like that was (probably) because they were old and had no life left in them.
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Old 04-25-2012, 05:21 AM
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Default Re: Just got my Aquarian drum heads and I'm no too happy :|

A Drum Dial setting of 78 is medium high to me.
I consider low tuning to be about 72 to 74 on the DD,
I would try the batters at about 75 and the resos at 76 for loose tuning.
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Old 04-25-2012, 05:40 AM
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Default Re: Just got my Aquarian drum heads and I'm no too happy :|

Okay thanks for the help!
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Old 04-25-2012, 06:05 AM
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Default Re: Just got my Aquarian drum heads and I'm no too happy :|

I use aquarian super 2 coated...love them. Besides proper tuning aquarians are known to take a few days to settle. tune as best you can and be patient.
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Old 04-25-2012, 03:12 PM
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Default Re: Just got my Aquarian drum heads and I'm no too happy :|

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A Drum Dial setting of 78 is medium high to me.
I consider low tuning to be about 72 to 74 on the DD,
I would try the batters at about 75 and the resos at 76 for loose tuning.
I would agree with this
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Old 04-25-2012, 03:16 PM
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I really like the sound and quality of Aquarian heads, but I've come to a similar conclusion as OP: They will not tune as low as Remo or Evans heads. I haven't tried every Aquarian head out there, of course, but I've had this experience with Clear, Coated and Black Response II heads, as well as Performance II. Great heads, but not suitable for low tunings (at least not compared to Remo and Evans)

So yeah, based on my experience, I'd simply advise you to pick another brand next time if you like your toms low and rumbling (like I do).
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Old 04-27-2012, 04:34 AM
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I really like the sound and quality of Aquarian heads, but I've come to a similar conclusion as OP: They will not tune as low as Remo or Evans heads. I haven't tried every Aquarian head out there, of course, but I've had this experience with Clear, Coated and Black Response II heads, as well as Performance II. Great heads, but not suitable for low tunings (at least not compared to Remo and Evans)

So yeah, based on my experience, I'd simply advise you to pick another brand next time if you like your toms low and rumbling (like I do).
Damn : / ; thanks for the advice though
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Old 04-27-2012, 04:44 AM
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Default Re: Just got my Aquarian drum heads and I'm no too happy :|

Personally I find I can tune single ply Aquarians lower than Evans or Remo.
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Old 04-27-2012, 05:17 AM
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Default Re: Just got my Aquarian drum heads and I'm no too happy :|

Maybe you should try some bigger drums? I have Performance 2's on my 13" and 16" drums and they sound just fine at JAW tuning, even though I tune them JAJAW. Maybe you guys are right about the single ply tom heads if you want to tune them that low.I noticed my gig set and the studio set I play are like night and day when it comes to tuning because the drums are much smaller on the studio set and the tone is way higher even at JAJAW tuning, which is how I always tune a drum BTW.
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Old 04-28-2012, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: Just got my Aquarian drum heads and I'm no too happy :|

Were your remo's ambassadors or emperors?
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Old 04-28-2012, 05:40 PM
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Default Re: Just got my Aquarian drum heads and I'm no too happy :|

The M Birch is an older set now, so you should probably replace those resonant heads when you can.

Going from coated to clear heads will definitely bring about an extra degree of tang to the sound, because you're used to hearing the coated heads.

I used Response 2's once, loved the way they sound. Unfortunately they are harder to get.
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Old 04-28-2012, 06:24 PM
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Definitely replace the reso's. I have switched from coated to clear to coated....
I like both sounds for different reasons, I currently have coated response 2's on and fairly new reso heads and when I put them on they were very easy to tune, got the sound I wanted right away, however after a short period of time they got a little thuddy (if that makes sense) Just cranked them down another half turn and they sound great.
I myself am an Aquarian user now, love the durability of the heads and will continue to use them.
With your situation I believe it to be true which others have said, being birch, they want to sing a little more plus the sizes you have it maybe hard to achieve the very low end you are looking for.
The heads you have (response 2 clear) are great and keep working with them, replace one of the toms reso heads with a classic clear or a ambassador clear and just spend lots of time tuning it.
I was never great at tuning until I just sat there and did it for a long time, eventually the drum and the feel will tell you when to stop.
Good luck and be patient.
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