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Old 03-28-2012, 12:55 PM
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Someone had to say it. Do you prefer Evans or Remo, and why?
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Old 03-28-2012, 02:03 PM
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I think they both make great heads. Just a matter of what you like. I, for the most part use Remo. I use either coated Ambassadors, Ambassador X or clear Emperors on the toms and PS3 on the kick. To me the Remo's are a bit more open.

I do have some Evans 2 ply clears on another set of drums I play.

I always loved the Evans single ply EMAD on my bass drums but that plastic ring would always tear. I hear it's been addressed so I may give it another try?
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Old 03-28-2012, 05:00 PM
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Neither...lol, Aquarian all the way for me as Evans last twice as long as Remo and Aquarian lasts twice as long as Evans for my type of playing. Plus Aquarian has better prices and the best customer service in the business.
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Old 03-28-2012, 05:21 PM
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I'm going to give Aquarian a try I think.

I use Evans clear G1's over Remo clear Ambassadors, because I like the sustain of the Evans and the tone of the Remo.

But I could go all Remo or all Evans top and bottom. I believe the film is exactly the same.

I like Evans because I can get a 10/12/16 head pack and get 3 heads for the price of 2.
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Old 03-28-2012, 06:08 PM
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I used to use the Evans G2 clears a long time ago. Back then Evans heads were more expensive than Remos if I remember correct. This was back in the late 90's. Now I think they are pretty much the same price. I don't really have anything against the Evans heads and I've never tried the Aquarians but after reading so many good posts about them here I may have to give them a shot. For now I'm happy with my Remo heads though.
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Old 03-28-2012, 06:36 PM
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I like Evans for a few reasons...and I pay for my drum heads...

1. They innovate: Remo can't get close to the amount of choices and ranges of heads that Evan's does... When they did (trying to eliminate some of the EMAD's market share) they failed miserably with the Powerstroke Pro, of which nearly everyone complained about the ultrasonic welds seperating and starting to buzz. Evan's had a similar problem where the plastic ring would break and seperate, but it was fixable by utilizing a rounded edge on the plastic ring instead of a hard one, Remo's design is inherently unfixable and significantly changes the molecular structure of the mylar around the ultrasonic welds... its just a bad engineering idea for a high vibration environment.

2. They have engineered a better drum head: Films are the same, Hoops from evans are more consistent and from an engineers perspective, much better made design. With their die press system of taking up extra material of the film when it makes the transition into the hoop epoxy they also make a more consistent head that holds the tune better, and is easier to tune in the first place. I have had countless issues with Remo heads since I started playing drums 8 years ago, I religiously replace drum heads on my own kit when they need it meaning I have gone through quite a few heads, I have never had a single issue with any Evans head.

3. No gimmicks: Their heads do what they say they will do, they don't bother telling you a long technical story about what their heads will do for your sound, they just tell you what their features are, and where on the sound spectrum they fit, and let the heads sell themselves.

4. Hydraulics are horrible, but everyone says that at a time when everyone want's resonance from their toms... they were the bee's knees not that long ago, Evans saw a market and profited from it... plus they make crap kits sound better, which I think we can all agree makes the world a better place.
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Old 03-28-2012, 08:13 PM
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I'm an all Evans guy. Coated G2 batter and clear G1 reso on my Starclassic kit with GMAD and EQ3 on my kick. Power Center Reverse Dot and Hazy 300 on my snare.

Clear EC2 batter and clear G1 reso on my Swingstar kit.

I've also used Aquarian Super Kick.
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Old 03-28-2012, 08:29 PM
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Gotta say remo here. To me they have a more agressive sound and a much wider pallet of sounds to choose from. Now granted, ive never broken a evans drum set head, whereas ive broken tons of remos. (Marching heads though, billions of evans gone!)
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Old 03-28-2012, 08:54 PM
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I can't say that I prefer one over the other. I use EMADS on all my bass drums except one, I use a Remo FiberSkyn 3 on an 18" bass. I mix and match my other heads based on what the set is for. I guess if I had to name one that I use more it would be Evans... I'm not sure why...
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Old 03-28-2012, 08:58 PM
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How about this. A remo powersonic for my bass drums, evan g2''s on my toms and various evans genera's for my snares. A nice a sound! Babba booby! Badda da booby!
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I've gone back and forth, since these are the two brands my local GC actually carries a decent variety of. I guess I like the sound of Remo heads better...but the quality is sketchy. Evans heads don't seem to have the same big, full sound and attack - something always seems missing from the tone. They feel nice and soft under the sticks...but the sound is inferior to my ears. It's been a while, maybe I just need to give them another listen.

Remo...well...they seem to improve and then regress. The coating seemed to have stopped chipping off right away for me, over the last year. However, I just bought a new batch of snare heads and the coating rubbed right off of them, almost immediately.

Remo's poor QC has me thinking about other brands, again. Maybe Aquarian?
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Evans for me, & that's partly historical brand loyalty, partially because I know them so well, but mostly consistency in manufacture. We (Guru) recently tested a good number of heads from different manufacturers for consistent rim to film dimensions, & Evans came out on top by some margin (I will admit that the Aquarian sample batch was smaller). Evans scored an inconsistency in about 5% of heads, Remo was closer to 20%.
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I've gone back and forth, since these are the two brands my local GC actually carries a decent variety of. I guess I like the sound of Remo heads better...but the quality is sketchy. Evans heads don't seem to have the same big, full sound and attack - something always seems missing from the tone. They feel nice and soft under the sticks...but the sound is inferior to my ears. It's been a while, maybe I just need to give them another listen.

Remo...well...they seem to improve and then regress. The coating seemed to have stopped chipping off right away for me, over the last year. However, I just bought a new batch of snare heads and the coating rubbed right off of them, almost immediately.

Remo's poor QC has me thinking about other brands, again. Maybe Aquarian?
I agree with all of that. My last drum teacher got me an Aquarian batter head. I liked the sound a little more than the Evans but a bit less than an Ambo. The coating was as durable as Evans.

I find they can all produce a good sound in their own way. Any thoughts on ease of tuning between brands?
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Any thoughts on ease of tuning between brands?
Never used an Aquarian head, can't speak for them. But have never noticed a pinch of difference between tuning an Ambassador and G1 or Emperor and G2. Can certainly hear slight nuances in the tonality though......moreso with the stick attack. I just find Evans have a more "plastic" sound in the attack......at least to my ear. That difference alone (albeit very slight) has me favouring a Remo head. But I'm spliting hairs when all is said and done. If there was a substantial discount, I'd have no issues with an Evans head, Considering there's not, then Remo gets first call.
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Old 03-29-2012, 03:19 PM
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Evans hands down for ease of tuning... my toms take a crank or two here and there on one or two lugs every month and thats it... putting new heads on is a breeze.

Evans has always had a good fundamental pitch right out of the box not even being on the drum...They break in quick and tune easy and consistently, if they won't tune up, the drum or rim is screwed up.
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Old 03-29-2012, 03:39 PM
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i use evans hydraulics on my toms cause i like the fat deep sound. i use remo and my snare because that is what i get for free and remo in bass cause thats what came in it and i liked how it sounded
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Old 03-29-2012, 04:43 PM
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I've been a Remo guy for years but decided to try Evans again based off of all the comments from the Evans users here.

I put an Evans HD Dry Batter and a 300 snare side on a 3 1/2" x 13 piccolo and was very impressed with how easy it was to tune. I really like the sound i got. I was so impressed with the sound that i am now going to try Evans with the rest of the kit.

Any recommendations for power toms? I'm more of a fusion player and do a lot of session stuff so i am looking for a head combo that would work well both live and studio.
Does Evans have a head similar to calfskin like Remo and Aquarian?

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Old 03-29-2012, 07:51 PM
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For a fatter, rounder sound with plenty of sustain for fusion and the like, your power toms would work great with the EC2's...

I play them, and they kill! Broad tuning range too unlike heads like the pinstripe and powerstrokes that choke up high.
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For a fatter, rounder sound with plenty of sustain for fusion and the like, your power toms would work great with the EC2's...

I play them, and they kill! Broad tuning range too unlike heads like the pinstripe and powerstrokes that choke up high.
What do you use for the bottom head.....EC2's as well?
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Old 03-29-2012, 09:13 PM
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Either is fine for me... Either my ears aren't good enough, or my tuning skills aren't good enough, or probably both... But i can't tell any diff in sound. I don't care about having everything on the kit match outside of the tom batters.

I currently have G2 coated over G1 clear on all toms (10,12,14,16).
PS3 clear over stock Tama logo head on bass.

My snares are all mixed up... G1, Amb., HD Dry, CSX batters, and Hazy 300 and Amb. Snare resos.

I guess I have a SLIGHT preference towards Evans because they don't make that cracking glue sound when you first put them on... But i won't hesitate to buy a Remo.

Never tried an Aquarian because my local GC doesn't stock them (at least not predominately), and heads aren't something I'd go out of my way to try.
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I agree with all of that. My last drum teacher got me an Aquarian batter head. I liked the sound a little more than the Evans but a bit less than an Ambo. The coating was as durable as Evans.

I find they can all produce a good sound in their own way. Any thoughts on ease of tuning between brands?
That's true, and it's just as much in the hands of the person tuning it. I think Remo heads are a bit more temperamental to tune up. Maybe it's a quality thing...or maybe they just produce more (over)tones, making them tougher to dial-in? I really dunno. Evans heads do seem a little bit easier to tune, for some reason. Although, they never seem to break in and warm up like Remo heads do, after a few weeks. You get what you get.

I'm gonna give Aquarian a run on my "small" kit when it's due for a head change. The 16" floor tom is identical to the one I use in the big one, so I'll be able to compare them side-by-side.

The coating thing chaps my ass. Either I'm crazy or...when enough of it comes off, the sound of the head begins to change - particularly on the snare. Just really unhappy with this last batch of Remos that I picked up. Booooo!
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My brand new Evans G14 heads got here today. Guess what I'll be doing tonight. Oh, my vote, Evans of course.
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What do you use for the bottom head.....EC2's as well?
God no, Clear G1's are the way to go on the bottom, good for just about every batter head which makes it easy to change it up since you can obey the 3 for every 1 rule for head replacement... So you can try out multiple batters on the same reso.

Some people like the genera resonant... which is a little thinner than the G1, but I found it was too bright for me... I like a nice fundamental, creamy note with a bit of a pitch bend, a little bit of hard attack, and those EC2/G1's are awesome for that. I use them on my 10,12,13,16, my 8 I use a G2 batter (G1 reso) to help open up the dud shell that its mounted to.
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My brand new Evans G14 heads got here today. Guess what I'll be doing tonight. Oh, my vote, Evans of course.
Let us know how they work out for you. I just installed coated Gplus' on my toms (ordered them based on the sound files on the Evans site) and I don't love em. Now I normally use clear heads so maybe that has something to do with it but they sound "thin" and I can't seem to find the sweet spot with these heads.
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i have been using evans for a very long time now and i must say that i am very delighted with that.. as for remo, have not tried yet
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I like Evans heads. Can't say I've done exhaustive research comparing them. My local drum shop guy recommended G2's for the sound I wanted. I put the G2's on and got the sound I wanted. Search over.
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I am an Evans guy, and I pay for them too. I stray occasionally but always come back. I really like the EC1 Reverse Dot as a snare batter head. On my toms I like clear G2 over EC Resonant. For bass drums I like EQ3 on the back and EQ1 Resonant on the front. Other heads are good, and I have tried them all, but I prefer Evans.
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Evans for me, & that's partly historical brand loyalty, partially because I know them so well, but mostly consistency in manufacture. We (Guru) recently tested a good number of heads from different manufacturers for consistent rim to film dimensions, & Evans came out on top by some margin (I will admit that the Aquarian sample batch was smaller). Evans scored an inconsistency in about 5% of heads, Remo was closer to 20%.
I like both companies for different reasons but one thing I noticed though is that Evans heads often don't come completely round where the joints come together... they seem to continue going towards the inside in a heartshape matter... ever noticed? I brought back a few to my music store and the sales guy went: geeez, never noticed that before but it's so true!!! What about you guys?
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I'm an Evans guy. Not to say Remo make bad heads or anything. But I used to use Remos but I was never happy with the sound I was getting from my kit.
I played a gig in 2010 and the kit there had Evans heads. It sounded great so I thought I'd try some out on my kit and ever since I've been using Evans. I've played other kits with Remo heads and they sound good, but for me and for my kit its Evans all the way!
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Old 05-28-2012, 09:16 PM
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I like both companies for different reasons but one thing I noticed though is that Evans heads often don't come completely round where the joints come together... they seem to continue going towards the inside in a heartshape matter... ever noticed? I brought back a few to my music store and the sales guy went: geeez, never noticed that before but it's so true!!! What about you guys?

I have noticed that several times on several heads of mine, More so on the smaller sizes because the arc is so much more extreme. Maybe EvansSpecialist can weigh in on it more but I have never found those "defective" (double quotes because in reality its just a visual imperfection) heads to have any trouble tuning up or breaking in and or holding a tune. So I suppose it is within QC limits at Evans since it does not have an effect on the sound.

Basically, when the hoop is rolled, it is cut by a machine that is automated to calculate the length needed for a specified size, so to have a few here and there that are cut short (creating the V you mentioned at the joint) or cut long (creating the opposite effect of an external point at the joint, which I have never seen) I would expect. A machine can only determine how far the rollers move, not whether or not the alluminum channel actually moved with them.
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There's no doubt that both Evans and Remo (and Aquarian, as well) make good heads. I've found many drummers are loyal to one brand over another simply out of habit.

I've ALWAYS used Remo and have never found the need to try anything else because they work for me. I can dial the desired sound in easily and they hold up very well. They sound warmer to me after they've been on awhile and are broken in. Plus, Remo has such a large selection of different models, I'm sure to find exactly what I'm looking for.

It's interesting that a large majority of high-end and custom drums come factory-equipped with Remo heads more often than not.

Another point to make is that many retailers prefer Remo; at least where I live, anyway. A large Guitar Center, a 5-Star Pro Drum Shop and three small independent music retailers seem to have a better selection of Remo than any others.

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I used Remos for nearly twenty years and never had any issues with them. I still play them on drumsets at churches, and I don't have any compunction about ordering Remo heads for those drums. I have also tried Aquarians and found the SuperKick to be a great head. Personally, however, I love the consistency, durability, diversity, and tone of Evans heads. For those reasons I prefer them on my own set.
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I'm an Aquarian guy...
Yes I do endorse the product, but I play them because I love them, and have even turned down other companies just to stay with a product I really love.

I just changed all my heads to the new Force 10 they came out with.
Fantastic sounding heads and more durability than I have ever come across in any other model or brand. I suggest trying them out!
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I think both companies make great heads. I have not used an Aquarian head, other than I tried a superkick on my Yamaha MCA bass drum and it sounded boingy no matter what I did to it. I've heard them on other kits and they sounded good though, so maybe it was the drum. I used to use remo coated emps on my snare, but they changed the film (white to clear) and the coating came off after one show. Because of that reason, I tried a coated G2 and was very happy with them. I use them 99.9% of the time on my snare live. On my kick I had an Emad, great head, and I also run a Remo PS3. It's a little more open sounding and I like a more open sound on my kit, so the PS3 gets the call. I tried the Evans equivalent to a PS3 and it just seemed to lack some "meat". Toms get clear emps, G2's or coated vintage emps. I alternate between those heads. I will say that Evans heads seem to be more consistent in sound.
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My first choice is Aquarian, I love the Modern Vintage heads for my jazz gigs and Reponse 2 heads for my toms on Rock gigs. I really like the Superkick1 batter head for bass drums with the ported Regulator front head. I really like a lot of their different snare drum heads. Saldy Aquarian are not well stocked in Toronto.

I have become an Evans fan due to the scarcity of Aquarian heads. i really like the Evans J1 etched heads for my toms for Jazz Gigs (top and bottom) , Coated G1 for the snare batter and hazy 300 for the resonant side. I really like the coated EMAD single ply for all my gigs both jazz and rock. I have really started to like the Evans coated white G Plus heads for my Rock Gigs, really versitile heads and they hold up well.

I have not used a Remo head since they started using the pie shape logo on them. They just went down hill from there. Coating issues got my goat for the most part.
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Old 06-03-2012, 03:34 AM
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Really, I canīt complain neither one of them.
I use Remo Ambassador on the snare and Evans G1 on the toms. The RA's give an smooth wide open sound while EG1's put a bright punchy sound...So I like them both for a purpose and function.
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Old 06-03-2012, 04:48 AM
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For years I used Remo. I put an Evans Genera dry on my Acrolite and it sounds like a whole new drum! Remo does make some good specialty heads, like the fiberskyn, which are fabulous on rope tension drums.
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. Saldy Aquarian are not well stocked in Toronto.
Even at Long and McQuade? They always had them in stock up there and I used to have the guys ship my heads to me in Nova Scotia till Long and McQuade bought out all the Music Stop franchises in Nova Scotia and New Brunswick.



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I tried a superkick on my Yamaha MCA bass drum and it sounded boingy no matter what I did to it.
What were you using for a front head? I just cant imagine anyone finding a super kick boingy. I have used them on MCA's, Pearl Masters, Tama Rockstars and now on the Radial Pros which tend to more resonant than most and have always got a big fat thud from them no matter which kit I put them on.

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