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Old 08-20-2012, 01:17 PM
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Hey all,

Does anyone know of any drummers who just used one crash cymbal in their set up?
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Old 08-20-2012, 01:21 PM
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Old 08-20-2012, 03:56 PM
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Charlie Watts. Ringo Starr.
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Old 08-20-2012, 03:57 PM
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Old 08-20-2012, 06:19 PM
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Levon Helm. Since the message has to be at least 20 characters, I repeat: Levon Helm.
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Old 08-20-2012, 06:30 PM
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I use 1 crash in my 2 cymbal set-up.

It's a 20" Sabian Vault Crash. The other cymbal is a 24" Giant Beat.


...this thread is probably in the wrong section.........
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Old 08-20-2012, 07:08 PM
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I sometimes use NO crash. I'm gutsy that way.
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Old 08-20-2012, 07:20 PM
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I sometimes use NO crash. I'm gutsy that way.
I also often don't use a single 'crash' cymbal, though I do 'crash' on my rides. So depending on how you take it, I have either zero or three crashes :)
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Old 08-20-2012, 09:26 PM
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Some guys go so far as to only use 1 cymbal. Billy Martin, for example. He rides AND crashes his cymbal. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtnOF4M-SrE
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Old 08-20-2012, 11:54 PM
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I do it often. The less things I have to hit, the more creative I am with what is there.
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Old 08-24-2012, 09:47 PM
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I assume you mean one crash after a ride and hi hats, right?

Nick Knox


Jim White


Hilarie Sidney


John Stanier switched to one-cymbal-at-a-distance when he joined Battles


And the late, brilliant Jerry Fuchs


John Pamer from Tsunami used one crash. His setup was minimal, kind of neat, can't find a picture though. Lori Barbero from Babes in Toyland had one cymbal, period, usually broken. But there's probably about 10,000 drummers with jazz kits that do this; these are just the one's I've seen, who also have pictures on the web somewhere.
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:29 PM
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John Stanier switched to one-cymbal-at-a-distance when he joined Battles

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dude must have long arms no?
i like all those minimal looking kits.
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:34 PM
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It was actually pretty common around the days of Watts and Starr to use one crash.

Look up The Ventures playing wipeout. Their drummer just use a thin ride cymbal that he also crashed on.
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:55 PM
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It was actually pretty common around the days of Watts and Starr to use one crash.

Look up The Ventures playing wipeout. Their drummer just use a thin ride cymbal that he also crashed on.
The days of Watts and Starr? Ringo actually used 2 crashes during the last few years of the Beatles..Those guys are still on the planet,and are still playing.They have however expanded their kits to use more cymbals.

We forgot Wailin Smash.And Swexx..as much as I love Levon,he won't be playing anything anymore.:)

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Old 08-24-2012, 10:56 PM
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John Stanier switched to one-cymbal-at-a-distance when he joined Battles

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dude must have long arms no?
i like all those minimal looking kits.[/quote]

I just don't get that set up.That guy is just begging for back problems somewhere down the line.

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Old 08-24-2012, 11:09 PM
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zero crash cymbals for me

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Old 08-24-2012, 11:10 PM
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It was actually pretty common around the days of Watts and Starr to use one crash.

Look up The Ventures playing wipeout. Their drummer just use a thin ride cymbal that he also crashed on.
back then there was no distinction between a crash cymbal and a ride cymbal......just cymbals of different sizes
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:23 PM
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as much as I love Levon,he won't be playing anything anymore.:)
I know, it is so sad. He was my biggest idol when I was a kid. I guess he's jamming with Hendrix and Clarence Clemmons in heaven now :)
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:36 PM
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It was actually pretty common around the days of Watts and Starr to use one crash.

Look up The Ventures playing wipeout. Their drummer just use a thin ride cymbal that he also crashed on.
Mel Taylor was the drummer who pushed me over the edge to really go with one or two cymbals.
I saw Mel on a clip and he rocked the kit so much, and just that one cymbal. That was the point when I said it doesn't matter how much stuff I use.

Cindy Blackman with Lenny Kravitz only used 2 cymbals, and I really dug that set up a lot.
I finally got brave enough to actually do it!
Patrick Keeler runs only 2 cymbals with his Greenhornes band a lot too.

Cool pic of Nick Knox.
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Old 08-25-2012, 02:20 AM
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I just don't get that set up.That guy is just begging for back problems somewhere down the line.

Steve B
I can't say for sure, but I'm betting his bandmates forced him to do that, because ART. The point being that he wouldn't use it unless he absolutely 100% had to. But again can't say for sure. When he was with Helmet his setup was more traditional.
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Old 08-25-2012, 02:25 AM
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Mel Taylor was the drummer who pushed me over the edge to really go with one or two cymbals.
I saw Mel on a clip and he rocked the kit so much, and just that one cymbal. That was the point when I said it doesn't matter how much stuff I use.

Cindy Blackman with Lenny Kravitz only used 2 cymbals, and I really dug that set up a lot.
I finally got brave enough to actually do it!
Patrick Keeler runs only 2 cymbals with his Greenhornes band a lot too.

Cool pic of Nick Knox.
I'm a huge fan of few cymbals myself. Jean-Paul Gaster of Clutch just uses a 20" or a 21" crash, a 22" ride, and a crash ride. But with so few cymbals, his sound is SO big.

I use an 18" China (live main crash) a 20" ride, and an 18" crash.
When I'm in studio I ditch the China, and the 18" crash becomes my main crash, and I put an 18" crash / ride to my right side.

I used to think more cymbals, more sound. But in the last couple of years I've tried to experiment more in bringing out the different sounds of each cymbal.
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Old 08-25-2012, 02:42 AM
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I'm a huge fan of few cymbals myself. Jean-Paul Gaster of Clutch just uses a 20" or a 21" crash, a 22" ride, and a crash ride. But with so few cymbals, his sound is SO big.
That dude gets so much out of smaller setups. He also plays them really open, I think, no real felt washers or tightened wingnuts on top. The physical size of the guy makes you think he's just going to bash them, but he's actually got a nice wristy action
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Old 08-27-2012, 09:13 PM
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Michael Tapper, drummer for Yellow Ostrich, Bishop Allen, and formerly We Are Scientists, uses just a crash and ride, and on some songs even forgoes a hi-hat, replacing it with some kind of improvised Shekere-like instrument. In most of Yellow Ostrich's first album, he doesn't even use a bass drum, as seen here.

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Old 08-27-2012, 09:23 PM
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dude must have long arms no?
i like all those minimal looking kits.

I just don't get that set up.That guy is just begging for back problems somewhere down the line.

Steve B
From a MD interview (http://www.moderndrummer.com/site/20....UDvJlqDWDAk):

MD: What’s with the super-high crash?

John: I didn’t want any cymbals but the hi-hats at first. Then I was like, “Okay, I’ll use one,” but I didn’t want it near me because I’d use it too much. So I set it high so I’d have to work to get to it. I wanted it to be significant; I use it as a marker. It’s like a master reset button when I go to the cymbal. Plus, it looks cool.


He reminds me of Shooter McGavin.
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Old 09-09-2012, 11:36 PM
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Chris Cester of JET plays a set of hats and a ride... It's very simple and a good look, especially for the type of music he plays!
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Old 09-10-2012, 06:50 AM
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Chris Cester of JET plays a set of hats and a ride... It's very simple and a good look, especially for the type of music he plays!
Hey! Me too! I'm using a Zildjian 17" thin crash and a set of 14" Pearl trashy student hats here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMJ7M...1&feature=plcp

Shameless plug, I know ;)
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Old 09-10-2012, 10:45 AM
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Really like the Jet photo, YD.

I have one ride that I crash a lot and one crash that I ride a lot.
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