DRUMMERWORLD OFFICIAL DISCUSSION FORUM   

Go Back   DRUMMERWORLD OFFICIAL DISCUSSION FORUM > Drum Gear > Other Gear

Other Gear Discuss Hardware and all other equipment not covered in the other topics

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 02-03-2012, 01:18 AM
larryace's Avatar
larryace larryace is online now
"Uncle Larry"
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: In beautiful Bucks County, PA
Posts: 13,168
Default Fixed lugs such as tube lugs

I am coming to the conclusion that I think I prefer a non fixed lug. I have a BB with tubes and a Canopus with a fixed 1 center screw double ended lug. I think that, considering all the variables in play, such as imperfections with bearing edge, imperfections with the hoop itself, imperfections with the drumhead collar, foreign objects etc...all these things can conspire to make the tension rod less than perfectly straight where they enter the lug. I think it's for the greater good that there is adjust-ability where the rod enters the lug. My BB has 2 rods that are harder to turn than the others, even without tension on them. I think that problem might go away if I put the Imperial lugs on it. Yea, I'm not liking the fixed lugs anymore, I may buy a set of Imperials for my BB.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-03-2012, 01:23 AM
sticks4drums
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Fixed lugs such as tube lugs

This is me running away, and going to watch a movie with my beautiful wife! :)
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-03-2012, 01:41 AM
Drummertist's Avatar
Drummertist Drummertist is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: North Carolina, USA
Posts: 605
Default Re: Fixed lugs such as tube lugs

So that's why most professional drummers use non-fixed lugs.


...oh wait. They don't.

Did the gremlins get into your head?
__________________
DRüMMER+IST
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-03-2012, 01:43 AM
larryace's Avatar
larryace larryace is online now
"Uncle Larry"
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: In beautiful Bucks County, PA
Posts: 13,168
Default Re: Fixed lugs such as tube lugs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Drummertist View Post
So that's why most professional drummers use non-fixed lugs.


...oh wait. They don't.

Did the gremlins get into your head?
Excuse me? Come again?


__________
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-03-2012, 02:04 AM
MikeM's Avatar
MikeM MikeM is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 4,667
Default Re: Fixed lugs such as tube lugs

Quote:
Originally Posted by sticks4drums View Post
This is me running away, and going to watch a movie with my beautiful wife! :)
Larry, if I may, I think someone's trying to suggest that if you don't like the inflexibility of tubes, perhaps you'd be interested in some Mapex lugs for your Ludwig. Maybe some of those powder-coated MyDensity jobs. Hello Kitty! pink might be cute.
__________________
><Darwin> Recent band.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-03-2012, 02:16 AM
Drummertist's Avatar
Drummertist Drummertist is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: North Carolina, USA
Posts: 605
Default Re: Fixed lugs such as tube lugs

Quote:
Originally Posted by larryace View Post
Excuse me? Come again?
Or heck...maybe they do. I still don't understand the original post. Let me read it again. I think I'm just bored. The comment about gremlins still stands.
__________________
DRüMMER+IST
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-03-2012, 04:01 AM
Soupy Soupy is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 987
Default Re: Fixed lugs such as tube lugs

Quote:
Originally Posted by larryace View Post
I am coming to the conclusion that I think I prefer a non fixed lug. I have a BB with tubes and a Canopus with a fixed 1 center screw double ended lug. I think that, considering all the variables in play, such as imperfections with bearing edge, imperfections with the hoop itself, imperfections with the drumhead collar, foreign objects etc...all these things can conspire to make the tension rod less than perfectly straight where they enter the lug. I think it's for the greater good that there is adjust-ability where the rod enters the lug. My BB has 2 rods that are harder to turn than the others, even without tension on them. I think that problem might go away if I put the Imperial lugs on it. Yea, I'm not liking the fixed lugs anymore, I may buy a set of Imperials for my BB.
Sure it's not just dirty threads on the BB? Or poorly cut threads? With no tension I'd have thought you could tell whether they were binding against the hoop.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-23-2012, 07:10 PM
markdrum markdrum is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 308
Default Re: Fixed lugs such as tube lugs

I've just seen a problem like this. I was trying to replace the CL-55 lugs on my Pearl brass snare with aftermarket tube lugs. I tried each of the lugs with the Pearl tension rods before I mounted the lugs and they threaded perfectly. When I mounted the tube lugs on the shell I noticed that the rods on one side were really hard to thread. I worked with the alignment on the lugs but the problem was still there. Forget finger tightening! When I reinstalled the stock lugs the problem went away. I like the look of tube lugs on this drum but I don't like the uneven tensioning and the potential for cross-threading the lugs. I'll have to keep searching. Does anyone know of a manufacturer who makes well-fitting replacements for Pearl lugs? I can't afford the ones from Pearl just yet but I do like the look.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-23-2012, 07:26 PM
keep it simple's Avatar
keep it simple keep it simple is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Herefordshire, UK.
Posts: 16,201
Default Re: Fixed lugs such as tube lugs

My POV, the lower the lug mass, the better, unless you're using very thick shelled drums. Fitting lugs that are more complicated than necessary, to make up for manufacturing deficiencies, is just a drum maker's cop out. There's easily enough wiggle room in the tension rod hole of most standard metal hoops to accommodate significant drift. If you're making drums that need even more tolerance than that, you really are putting out a sack of crap.
__________________
This message is brought to you courtesy of Thinly Veiled Productions inc.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are Off
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off




All times are GMT +2. The time now is 09:05 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Bernhard Castiglioni's DRUMMERWORLD.com