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Old 01-19-2012, 02:35 AM
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Default Wire Base vs Base Plate on bass drum pedal

Other than making the pedal lighter and foldable, what are the pro's and cons of having a wire base vs a full bass plate on a bass drum pedal?

I had this thought when I was looking at the new Ludwig Atlas pedals and saw the difference between the Classic and Pro series.
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Old 01-19-2012, 02:43 AM
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I have an old Tama Flexi-Flyer pedal, which is your basic pedal, with a wire underneath, but it also has a cam and a strap. I think it feels great. But the only advantage to this is how light the pedal is and how easy it is to transport it around. There's definitely a 'give' to the entire pedal when you play it on a carpeted floor. The bass drum also sits a little lower to the floor if you don't have a plate. I think the reason we went to the plates is because drummers rarely get a nice flat floor to play on, and the pedal helps with that stability. But, I've done lots of gigs with my ol' Flexi Flyer and flew on that pedal as well anyway.
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Old 01-19-2012, 09:59 PM
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Default Re: Wire Base vs Base Plate on bass drum pedal

... yeah, basically a plate is more stable on deeper pile carpeting, which drummers sometimes encounter, or did more so in the past.

W/o the plate on thicker rugs the pedal is not as stable.

Plates are very easy to make and affix to a non-bottom plated pedal tho.
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Old 01-19-2012, 10:11 PM
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... yeah, basically a plate is more stable on deeper pile carpeting, which drummers sometimes encounter, or did more so in the past.

W/o the plate on thicker rugs the pedal is not as stable.

Plates are very easy to make and affix to a non-bottom plated pedal tho.
I'd like to point out though, that a pedal with a plate is not a pre-requisite for playing well though. It certainly makes it easier, but the first time I hear a kid tell me "I can't play because the bass drum pedal doesn't have a plate...." ....why I oughta' (shaking fists at said kid)...!

Think of all the cool music you've listened to and visualize what their gear may have been like. If you grew up listening to stuff pre-80s, then you're hearing all drumming without a bass drum pedal plate. You make that bass drum part happen regardless of what kind of pedal is on there!

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Old 01-19-2012, 11:44 PM
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... yeah, basically a plate is more stable on deeper pile carpeting, which drummers sometimes encounter, or did more so in the past.

W/o the plate on thicker rugs the pedal is not as stable.

Plates are very easy to make and affix to a non-bottom plated pedal tho.
Anyone got a tutorial on making base plates? This got me interested.
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Old 01-19-2012, 11:48 PM
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Anyone got a tutorial on making base plates? This got me interested.
Check with Harry Conway mate. He slapped one together for his old Speedking pedal........made a damn fine job of it too.
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Old 01-19-2012, 11:55 PM
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Default Re: Wire Base vs Base Plate on bass drum pedal

Wire Bottom
Pros: Lighter, cheaper, and easier to transport.
Cons: Not as stable. Can wiggle around a bit if you play heel up and hard, especially on carpet.

Plate Bottom
Pros: Stable design, especially on carpet and unstable stages.
Cons: Heavier, more expensive and harder to transport.
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Old 01-20-2012, 12:12 AM
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Default Re: Wire Base vs Base Plate on bass drum pedal

I've had this Tama early edition "Rolling Glide" pedal for many years and it's very stable where ever I put it. I since replaced it with a DW 5000, but I may be putting it on my Ludwig kit. It's really a great pedal in spite of its simplistic design.



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Old 01-20-2012, 12:41 AM
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Default Re: Wire Base vs Base Plate on bass drum pedal

I'll echo the others, it's all about stability. My opinion, get the solid plate.
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Old 01-24-2012, 08:03 PM
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Default Re: Wire Base vs Base Plate on bass drum pedal

I was looking at the same Atlas pedal with the wire instead of the plate.

My old Camco wiggled more because of the single chain than it did because it didn't have a plate.

I'm more in the thinking stage than the "I'm getting one" stage, but since there seems to be only $7 difference, and with the plate you also get a drumkey clip (oooohhh haha!) and it has a better/easier hoop connector, the plate model pedal would be the one to get.

If it wasn't for the stupid drumkey operated hoop clamp mechanism on the wire base, I'd really consider that one, but, you re-design the whole line, and gimp out on a thing like that???? Just use the wing screw that IS on the other one, on THIS pedal too!

So far, that's my only real beef with anything though.
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Old 01-25-2012, 07:15 PM
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Default Re: Wire Base vs Base Plate on bass drum pedal

I had the same reaction when i saw the new Ludwig pedal with wire. In this day and age of materials to use why would you put wire on the bottom of a pedal? I would go with a plate just for the sake of stability no matter what surface you play on. I love my old Speed King but not having a stable "bottom" to it is it's only negative IMO.
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