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Old 01-05-2012, 12:20 AM
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I brought these home about a week before Christmas and was debating whether to shot pictures before or after I receive my additional drums, well here's the before shots. I'm still waiting on the 14" x 5" snare, 16" x 16" floor tom and either a 10" x 7" or a 13" x 9" rack tom.

The drums that are pictured are the Ludwig Classic Maple series in "white marine pearl" with a 20" x 16" bass drum. a 14" x 14" floor tom, and a 12" x 8" rack tom. The snare drum that I;'m using is a Tama 14" x 5 1/2" maple Artwood custom snare. The cymbals are Sabian Hand Hammered with 14" Dark hats, a 21" Vintage ride, a 16" Dark crash, an 18" Dark crash and this years Christmas present from Wanda, a 10" HH Duo splash. Sorry that there is a lot of stands and clutter in the pictures, but you can get the idea.

One of the main reasons that I bought these was basically sentimental in nature. My dad had a set of Ludwigs in this finish that he bought in Philadelphia in the late 1940s. He taught me how to play on that kit when I was 8. For many years I've been saying that I wanted a Ludwig set of drums in white marine pearl, now I have them, although the sizes of my kit are a bit smaller than my dads. I opted not to buy a 28" x 14" bass drum, lol.









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Old 01-05-2012, 12:23 AM
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Very nice buddy. Congratulations!
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Old 01-05-2012, 10:56 AM
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Beautiful, Dennis! Did you custom order or bought it like it was?
Love the finish. But the 28" kick would be a killer, pity you didn't choose that. Haha! ;)

The only thing I don't lika about their drums is the tom mount on the bass. The only maker that does that right is Yamaha.
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Old 01-05-2012, 11:17 AM
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I've been waiting for this one!

Looks fabulous mate. Very nice....love the WMP. Happy with the sound? Bring back any of those boyhood memories?

And fwiw, get the 13x9. That way you'll have a bit of beef when you decide to add on that 28" kick!! :-)
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Old 01-05-2012, 02:02 PM
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Beautiful, Dennis! Did you custom order or bought it like it was?
Love the finish. But the 28" kick would be a killer, pity you didn't choose that. Haha! ;)

The only thing I don't lika about their drums is the tom mount on the bass. The only maker that does that right is Yamaha.
Thanks Cameo. I only buy my kits off the showroom floor where I can thoroughly check them out, additional drums I'll just order and hope everything is correct from the factory.

I really don't mind bass drum mounts, I would have bought the kit with or without the mounted toms. My 1965 vintage kit made by Pearl had both the 12" x 8" and a 13" x 9" rack toms mounted off the 20" bass drum and two of my Yamaha rack toms is also bass drum mounted. If, in the future, I want to change to stand mounts, the rack toms already have the "vibraband suspension mounts", I'll only need the stand adapters. It's undoubtedly the quickest way to set-up the drums with the bass drum mount and the associated memory locks. Sonically, I couldn't hear a difference with the tom and mount on or off the bass drum.

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Old 01-05-2012, 02:09 PM
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Very nice buddy. Congratulations!
Thanks Sticks. It just took a while until I could personally find the right sizes and finish. I put a bug in one of the salesmans ear a couple of months ago saying that if they would get this set in their showroom, I would probably buy it. They got this kit and another in "new sky blue pearl" in the same sizes and configuration.

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Old 01-05-2012, 02:32 PM
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I've been waiting for this one!

Looks fabulous mate. Very nice....love the WMP. Happy with the sound? Bring back any of those boyhood memories?

And fwiw, get the 13x9. That way you'll have a bit of beef when you decide to add on that 28" kick!! :-)
I've been waiting on this set of drums a lot longer than you have, lol.

The "white marine pearl" finish looks very clean and classy and whatever the color stage lights hit it, it turns into that shade. I'm happy with its sound, but I have to get other heads on the drums for the kit to really come alive and take on the sound that's really in my mind, if that makes any sense.

Every time I see a set of Ludwig drums in white marine pearl it brings back multitudes of memories. If it comes down to it, I'll probably get the 13" x 9" rack tom, I'll also need the double bass drum mount to make everything work. This is why I stated this as being a "modular" kit in one of my threads, because It's very easy to build and add if need be. I'm happy that I got it. My only regret is that my dad is no longer around to enjoy some of my equipment.

Thanks Pocket.

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Old 01-05-2012, 03:35 PM
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Awesome set, but you need a china.
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Old 01-05-2012, 03:40 PM
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Awesome set, but you need a china.
I think Dennis is quite capable of deciding whether a China is necessary or not!
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Old 01-05-2012, 06:48 PM
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Shoot, cannot see the photos (waah)... images blocked (I'm at work)..
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Old 01-05-2012, 07:26 PM
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I'm loving that finish ! I always found it absolutely splendid, and very classy. On the other hand......

That drum room is starting to look crowded ;^)
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Old 01-06-2012, 04:14 AM
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Great kit, I hope you enjoy it for years!
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Old 01-06-2012, 05:53 AM
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Awesome set, but you need a china.
There's more than a billion of them in that country alone.....more spread across the far reaches of the globe. Which one does he need?
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Old 01-06-2012, 06:36 AM
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Thanks everyone for your nice comments. I'll take the china suggestion under advisement, but it will have to come after the "gong" drum. :)

Dennis
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Old 01-06-2012, 06:42 AM
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but it will have to come after the "gong" drum. :)
But even the gong has gotta take a back seat to the 28" kick, no? Come on Dennis...what price do you put on nostalgia? You can't buy memories mate....but you can buy a massive bass drum. Only a 28" kick is gonna replicate the old man's, surely? :-)
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Old 01-06-2012, 06:58 AM
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Beauty kit, man! Those are so, so close to my own. Those look like keystone brackets, elite bass drum spurs and mini-classic lugs. I have the same except for the larger classic lugs. I use the same rim mount on my rack toms. I got the classic script bass drum reso head, but mine doesn't have the "usa" under the lettering like yours.

There was some kind of appeal the WMP finish had for me, too, even though I never liked it much before I bought my set. Something about the new take on something vintage appealed to my aesthetic sense, I guess. Anyway, I'm thrilled and still look at the drums every single day and feel happy. And I'm even happier when I play 'em!

Congratulations and I wish you a lot of enjoyment with your new set!
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Old 01-06-2012, 02:25 PM
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Beauty kit, man! Those are so, so close to my own. Those look like keystone brackets, elite bass drum spurs and mini-classic lugs. I have the same except for the larger classic lugs. I use the same rim mount on my rack toms. I got the classic script bass drum reso head, but mine doesn't have the "us" under the lettering like yours.

There was some kind of appeal the WMP finish had for me, too, even though I never liked it much before I bought my set. Something about the new take on something vintage appealed to my aesthetic sense, I guess. Anyway, I'm thrilled and still look at the drums every single day and feel happy. And I'm even happier when I play 'em!

Congratulations and I wish you a lot of enjoyment with your new set!
Thanks 8Mile. You're right about the hardware. I was very happy that these drum came with the mini classic lugs mainly because of the smaller sizes of the drums. If I was going for the same kit in a 22", 13" and 16" floor tom, I probably would have liked the standard size lugs a bit better.

White marine pearl always intrigued me as far back in time as I can remember. I made several references to the finish throughout the years here on this forum. I really never cared as much for the other "pearl" finishes that Ludwig offers, but many of their "premium" and stain finishes also look really nice to me.

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Old 01-06-2012, 07:14 PM
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now that you have those sweet ludwigs - you should give that poor neglected gretch kit
sitting next to it - to me of course! haha

nice kit(s) man

got a pic of that gretch anywhere?

oh - and please tell about those sabian HH's are they sabians equiv to zil K's?

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WOW.

That looks so unbelievably nice. WMP Classic Maples, and in those sizes... That's definitely a keeper.

Congratulations man, enjoy them.

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now that you have those sweet ludwigs - you should give that poor neglected gretch kit
sitting next to it - to me of course! haha

nice kit(s) man

got a pic of that gretch anywhere?

oh - and please tell about those sabian HH's are they sabians equiv to zil K's?
Thanks Spectron. The Gretsch kit gets played, usually at some of our practices, but maybe not as frequently as some of my others. Here's a picture.



The Sabian Hand Hammered series is comparable to the Zildjian K line, but the two aren't exactly the same in their sonic properties. I find in general that the HH cymbals might be a bit brighter overall in comparison. I have the "Dark" cymbals on the Ludwig kit and have the other Hand Hammered in thin and medium thin weights on my Yamaha drums. They include two rides, a 20" "Medium" and a 21" Raw Bell Dry ride, regular 14" hats, 5 crashes and 2 splashes.

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WOW.

That looks so unbelievably nice. WMP Classic Maples, and in those sizes... That's definitely a keeper.

Congratulations man, enjoy them.

Cheers
Thanks diegobxr. This is definitely the brightest drum kit I've ever owned, it's just very clean looking. They'll stay around for quite some time, if I can help it. I'm going to add to it little by little just to have a choice of drums when I start to gig with it. Getting the additional drums now, I'll have a much better chance of all the drums finishes matching now and through their aging process. It won't get any larger than maybe 6 pieces when it's all done and over with.

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Old 01-07-2012, 10:51 AM
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I just have to ask this, which one is your favourite?
And what do you think about the Ludwig head? :)
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I just have to ask this, which one is your favourite?
And what do you think about the Ludwig head? :)
The first question is very difficult to answer because none of my drum choices were done "off the cuff" and none were made with a compromising sonic mind set. I've never heard or seen a drum set for the first time and bought it on the spot, except maybe the Ludwigs, but that's an entirely different story. I've played the Ludwig Legacy, Classic Maple and Keystone series many times, but I always came short of getting the right finish in the right configuration until a couple of weeks ago. I really detest buying drums from a catalog that I can't first play, hear, see, feel and inspect. Most of the time I'll audition the kits, directly comparing it with others that already have my interests piqued. For instance, my Tama Starclassic Bubinga drums probably took me about two month before I finally decided that they were the ones for me. It wasn't that I wasn't floored by their sound, they're incredible, but I still wanted to compare them to just about every other drum kit that interested me and that I could get my hands on. This is why it's so difficult to mention a favorite. It would probably be much easier for me to state the ones that I play the least, although I have no intentions of letting either one of them go. I retired my 1965 vintage kit a couple of years ago, so it sits stacked nicely in the corner of the room. The other set of drums I play less frequently are my Gretsch Renowns, although they do get used every week.

I will say this, if my DW Classic drums are set up, I can't walk past them without playing them and my Yamaha Maple Custom Absolute kit is more "pure vanilla" than the rest, but are my most recorded set of drums and the last month or so, my most gigged.

I'm not completely going bonkers with the Ludwig heads. I believe the drums have a lot more potential than what their heads can faithfully produce. I really haven't gotten around to changing them just yet. First I'll try Evans G1 coated over G1 clear on the toms and if that doesn't cut it, Ambassador coated batters. I'm not sure where I'm going with the bass drums batter, but it will probably be an Evans EQ4. I had great results with that head on the 20" bass drum of my vintage kit.

Sorry for the book, lol.
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