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Old 12-29-2011, 11:01 PM
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So I just bought some cymbals from a semi famous guy I unknowingly connected with on Ebay, used, unheard by me, on faith. It turned out great. They are everything he said they were. The brand is called Masterworks. New one on me. I got a ride, 2 crashes, and 2 hi hats with a protection racket lambswool lined cymbal case for 600 shipped. *Yea baby* Originally, I thought I was getting just one crash, then a cymbal with a HUGE inked Soultone logo showed up. Bonus! The engraving on the Soultone cymbal said Masterworks. This surprised me. I heard of Soultone before, but not Masterworks. The other crash (Sebbar series) and the ride (Custom series) and the Hi Hats (Vintage series) all are engraved with a Masterworks logo. They are handmade hand hammered genuine Turk bronze, AFAIK. The guy (and his lovely wife, who ships them and corresponds w/ me) I got them from, who has been 100% honest with me, says they sound like old K's. Now I don't know what old K's sound like, but these sure are beautiful sounding cymbals. The hi hats are so glassy. The Soultone has this beautiful expanding sound that lasts for days, the Sebbar is a great all purpose crash, probably the most Zildjain like sound, but better. The ride and the case haven't arrived yet, so I still have more surprises in store. She sent pics showing the details of the ride, that's how I know it's engraved with the Masterworks logo.

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Since all this is new to me, I was looking for any first hand knowledge of Masterworks cymbals.
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Old 12-30-2011, 12:22 AM
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Hey man! Great find and thread/story. I've heard of Masterworks AND Soultone but never have I had the chance to try them out, but I would love to! Heard lots of amazing things about Masterworks though.

A brand I was using exclusively for a while (still using them, but my old hats cracked) were Agean.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HieADWNflX4 these were the hats.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVP5KiYe8sM <- Crash is kinda like that.

Sound REALLY Zildjiany. Would kill for the hats again :( they're hard finds and a good price too!

Enjoy your cymbals man :)
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Old 12-30-2011, 12:24 AM
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Got my first Masterworks about 7 or 8 years ago, they're very nice!

I knew they were OEMing for Soultone (Buzin before that) although Soultone says they now have their own foundry and aren't using many (any?) Masterworks anymore. It's very popular for Turkish boutique cymbal sellers to claim they have their own foundries, although it's extremely difficult for trhe average customer or even a store to prove.

Bottom line, if a cymbal sounds good, that's really what matters.

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Old 12-30-2011, 01:00 AM
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I own quite a few Masterwork and Soultone cymbals ... and also Istanbul Mehmet and Istanbul Agop cymbals ... and one Buzin. All fantastic pies. All my Soultone cymbals have a Masterwork stamp on them. You can check out Soultone cymbals here ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5yBw...eature=related Meytal Cohen is either endorsed, or just likes them a lot.
I've bought all my handmade Turks off eBay, unheard before purchase ... but having been to several NAMM shows, I've heard the different series, and know which ones I like. And so far, I haven't been disappointed yet. And I've got a stock of about 20 cymbals.
Currently, I'm awaiting a 16" Masterwork Sehhar crash ... landing in at $139.61. Two weeks ago, I reeled in a 18" Masterwork Legend crash ... landing in at $106.99.
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Old 02-19-2012, 06:43 PM
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I had a complete set of Masterwork Jazz series cymbals. 22 inch ride, 14 hats, 16 and 17 inch crashes and like a dope I sold them. Worst drumming mistake I have made since the 12 th grade and dropped a crash cymbal during a concert band performance.
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Old 02-19-2012, 09:23 PM
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Since my old post here, I've added a 14" set of hats (Extreme), a 21" ride (Custom), a 19" crash (Custom), a 18" crash (Thalles), and an 18" China (Custom) ... package deal .... cymbals came out to average about $130 each.
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In my experience, masterwork cymbals are just as excellent as zildjian k. Especially k hybrids. And masterworks don't cost a million pounds each! I think they are warm but not dull, bright but not empty....they ooze all round class in my humble opinion.
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Old 09-21-2014, 06:50 PM
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I've been using these same MasterWork cymbals I got in 2011 and I continue to love them. They are my "A" set. I haven't even thought about buying any new cymbals since I got these. I wouldn't mind a second set for home.
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Old 09-21-2014, 07:09 PM
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Turkish hand-hammered B20 pies tend to do that to a person, Larry :) I'm glad you found some great ones!
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Old 09-21-2014, 07:20 PM
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Turkish hand-hammered B20 pies tend to do that to a person, Larry :) I'm glad you found some great ones!
Thanks my friend, I'm glad too!

A guy came up to me at the wedding last night, he's a rock drummer, and he was noticing that most of my cymbals were Turkish. He was asking me all about them, like what is it about Turkish cymbals, are they better? I really didn't have any answer for him. I play them because they sound good. They just happen to be made in Turkey. Then he asked do I like Paragons? (that's what he plays) I said they are kind of thick for this particular band but that they make for good rock cymbal. I rarely get drummers asking about my gear at gigs, I'm not used to people noticing anything like that.
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Old 09-21-2014, 09:16 PM
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Yeah, it's not necessarily that they are from Turkey, but that's quite an easy way to refer to that particular style of cast cymbal. The Chinese brands (Dream, Wuhan, etc) are pretty similar so I suppose they might fall under the "Turkish" category :) regardless, it's a great blend of design facets.
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Old 09-21-2014, 09:48 PM
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Turkish hand-hammered B20 pies . . .
Their web site indicates the compound is B25 bronze. 25% tin? Not too dark or dull? Sounds good in a video.
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Old 09-21-2014, 10:22 PM
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Their web site indicates the compound is B25 bronze. 25% tin? Not too dark or dull? Sounds good in a video.
Interesting! I guess they did OEM for one of those other trendy Turkish "endorsement factory" companies that had B25 as well. I should recant the B20 part- even B8 can get to that level with proper work, Matt Nolan being a niche example and (obviously) Paiste being the broader application. Anyways, it's obvious that these cymbals had some care put into them!
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Old 09-21-2014, 10:51 PM
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So Soultone hasn't gotten in touch with you to have you fill out their endorser form? I think it's time you became a real endorser, Larry ;)
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If I'm correct, that's not the official Masterwork website but some retailer pretending to be (or represent) them.
The same people who put online my picture of my home studio without asking my permission, BTW.

I believe this to be the official Masterwork website: http://cymbal.masterwork.com.tr/

As far as I know, Masterwork uses a B20 alloy. And they make great cymbals.
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Old 09-22-2014, 07:39 PM
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If I'm correct, that's not the official Masterwork website but some retailer pretending to be (or represent) them.
The same people who put online my picture of my home studio without asking my permission, BTW.
I believe this to be the official Masterwork website: http://cymbal.masterwork.com.tr/
As far as I know, Masterwork uses a B20 alloy. And they make great cymbals.
Thanks for the heads up!
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