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Old 11-09-2011, 02:32 AM
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Default Tension Rods Keep Coming Loose On Snare...

I play only rim shots on my snare, I do hit pretty damn hard... Best sound out of the snare...

However, the tensions rods around where I hit, even reso side loosen off and just drop out.

I was wondering if anyone else have this problem, and how they get around it.

I was thinking maybe some sort of thread lock would work, such as loc-tite.

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Old 11-09-2011, 04:18 AM
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Yup, if you're rimshotting a lot, those rods are gonna loosen like crazy.

I think I read that lug-locks help with that... Guys?
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Old 11-09-2011, 04:23 AM
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Yep, either lug locks or loc-tite will work. Just make sure it's not the full strength loc-tite or they'll be there forever.
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Old 11-09-2011, 04:26 AM
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If you play hard, I'd get some Tight Screws.
They work great. Never back out a bit.
A little stiff the first time, but they work great, & are easier to turn after a couple head changes.
I've used them for a few years now, and they still hold just as well as when I put them in.
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Old 11-09-2011, 04:30 AM
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All my Saturn lugs have a small black nylon insert in side that the tension screws thread through after threading through the lugs. This seems to act like a nylock nut to keep them tight.
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Old 11-09-2011, 05:04 AM
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Here are a few options:

tight screw http://tightscrew.com/
lug lock http://www.luglock.com/luglock.htm
bolt tight http://www.canopusdrums.com/en/other...ght/index.html
lockerz http://www.gaugerpercussion.com/lockerzX.html
index tension tuners http://www.rhythmtech.com/products/acc/acc_pages/it.php

I have some of the Rhythmtech ITT's and find they work really well.

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Old 11-09-2011, 05:50 AM
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All my Saturn lugs have a small black nylon insert in side that the tension screws thread through after threading through the lugs. This seems to act like a nylock nut to keep them tight.
They don't do the job on mine, have to tighten my rimshot tension rod every practice.
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Old 11-09-2011, 01:18 PM
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They don't do the job on mine, have to tighten my rimshot tension rod every practice.
All you animals hit your drums too hard. They are sensitive you know. :)
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Old 11-09-2011, 01:26 PM
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If you play hard, I'd get some Tight Screws.
They work great. Never back out a bit.
A little stiff the first time, but they work great, & are easier to turn after a couple head changes.
I've used them for a few years now, and they still hold just as well as when I put them in.
I second this, although they do relax over time. Like everything, they need replacing after a while, but I get many practices & gigs out of mine. Extra good point, they don't alter the appearance of the drum.
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Old 11-09-2011, 10:29 PM
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Default Re: Tension Rods Keep Coming Loose On Snare...

Lug locks are very inexpensive, easy to use and easy to make adjustments with. Don't use Loctite on tension rods -- you need to be able to do frequent tuning changes or adjustments.
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Old 11-10-2011, 12:35 AM
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Default Re: Tension Rods Keep Coming Loose On Snare...

Lug Locks didn't work at all for me, they just spun with rods. Tightscrews are fantastic though, I really beat my snare on the rim, and they do not back out at all.

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Old 11-10-2011, 02:27 AM
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If you play hard, I'd get some Tight Screws.
They work great. Never back out a bit.
A little stiff the first time, but they work great, & are easier to turn after a couple head changes.
I've used them for a few years now, and they still hold just as well as when I put them in.
+1 for these, I have them on all the kit, and both snares, for several years
You are neverless losing out on the dynamics if you're only using rimshots. It's a question of style, of course, and to each his/her own, but if you fire all your bullets off at once, there's none left. A crescendo only has impact if preceded by, and followed by, a calmer spell. That doesn't mean not playing rock, but dynamics, imho, are an integral part of any instrument, snare included.
Just my tuppence worth; hope this helps...
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