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Old 10-26-2011, 06:50 PM
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0_o I wonder how this thing sounds... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Megaport-2...item5f78528ac9
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Old 10-26-2011, 08:09 PM
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... That thing makes me sweat. It certainly looks like it should be epic!
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Old 10-26-2011, 08:20 PM
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Very interesting. I would think it would reduce the interior volume of the drum a bit perhaps? Might be better suited to deeper drums.
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Old 10-26-2011, 08:23 PM
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Hah! That thing looks like fun. I'd like to see one on a 26"/28" kick. If it really boosts low end then I'll bet it'd be great for live Hip-Hop drummers.
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Old 10-26-2011, 08:27 PM
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I wonder if they're stupid enough to make this in brown...
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Old 10-27-2011, 06:22 PM
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I wonder if they're stupid enough to make this in brown...
Hahahahaha my thoughts exactly.

It just looks impractical too... especially on anything shallower than 18". And there are no youtube videos to be found...
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Old 10-27-2011, 11:11 PM
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How would you put your band's logo on that thing?
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Old 10-28-2011, 12:05 AM
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Me no like that thing.
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Old 10-28-2011, 09:58 PM
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How would you put your band's logo on that thing?
I don't think it matters mate cos whatever your band name once people have seen you play that you're just gunna be known as "the band with the drummer that plays an anus".
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Old 10-28-2011, 11:14 PM
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I would be afraid that the sound would be trapped behind the head on its way out the front. And like any port isn't the dead middle the worst place to put one. I will tell you this The KickPort works. Installed one on my Gretsch, see avatar, and it booms.
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Old 10-29-2011, 12:31 AM
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I would be afraid that the sound would be trapped behind the head on its way out the front. And like any port isn't the dead middle the worst place to put one. I will tell you this The KickPort works. Installed one on my Gretsch, see avatar, and it booms.
I would think the company that made this cone-style one has done some research. It would be interesting to hear some sound samples.
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Old 10-29-2011, 01:13 AM
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I would think the company that made this cone-style one has done some research. It would be interesting to hear some sound samples.
I agree.

I'm intrigued.

My guess is it's better suited for un-mic-ed situations, but I could be wrong.
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Old 10-29-2011, 02:48 AM
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Eww. That could be the most disgusting looking drum product ever. I would never subject the audience to a 22" anus looking thing all night. Who OK'd that design?
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I would think the company that made this cone-style one has done some research. It would be interesting to hear some sound samples.
Oh I agree. They have done more research than me. I am only going on what looks like a trap to me, and conventional wisdom or experience on port hole location. I too would love to hear it.
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I guess if there is an advantage to it they could make one with an acoustically transparent mesh head over the damn ugly thing.

it kind of resembles what Alex Van Halen used to do to his bass drum reso heads.

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Im going to have to assume if they brought this thing to market, it probably sounds pretty cool.

I like the idea, horns do efficiently transmit sound


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Im going to have to assume if they brought this thing to market, it probably sounds pretty cool.

I like the idea, horns do efficiently transmit sound


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Likely a good deal of the sound comes not just from the opening in the horn, but is also radiated and projected from the horn itself.
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I guess if there is an advantage to it they could make one with an acoustically transparent mesh head over the damn ugly thing.

it kind of resembles what Alex Van Halen used to do to his bass drum reso heads.

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It looks no uglier than a pillow, blanket, towel or mattress that I see stuffed into drums all the time, and proudly displayed. In fact, I think this horn head looks better than any of those things stuffed in a drum.
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Old 10-31-2011, 07:59 PM
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I think it looks really cool, actually. Makes the kick look like a giant sub whoofer. I'd love to hear two identical bass drums, one with a regular resonant head and another w/ one of these monsters on it.
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Old 10-31-2011, 08:03 PM
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I think it looks really cool, actually. Makes the kick look like a giant sub whoofer. I'd love to hear two identical bass drums, one with a regular resonant head and another w/ one of these monsters on it.
Same. Seems to be no videos on Youtube yet however... I also can't figure out who makes/distributes the thing.
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Old 11-03-2011, 02:14 PM
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It looks no uglier than a pillow, blanket, towel or mattress that I see stuffed into drums all the time, and proudly displayed. In fact, I think this horn head looks better than any of those things stuffed in a drum.
I agree with this... It sort of makes me wish I had a 22" bass drum and some cash so I could just buy this to check it out merely for the gimmick.

As much as I'd like to think it's this incredible idea, I'd imagine it's really not much more than that...
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Old 11-03-2011, 03:46 PM
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I wonder if they're stupid enough to make this in brown...
Well, you can get it bleached now-a-days...
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Old 11-24-2011, 01:05 PM
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Why bother? Just leave the res head off surely?

I like how they said they're working on ports for tom res heads.

this is going to go down in history as a bad idea...
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Old 11-29-2011, 05:56 AM
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I found this
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I got mine in the post today and made a comparison video! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4EVlf5iD_I
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Old 01-17-2012, 04:50 AM
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I got mine in the post today and made a comparison video! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4EVlf5iD_I
Interesting, almost like it rolled off some of the high end. I like that you used the Sennheiser vocal mic (e845)...shows you can get a good sound with a $100 mic.

Would be really cool to hear this with an Audix D6, AKG D112, Shure Beta52, and Sennheiser e602 to see how the 'pre-EQd' bass mics would handle it.
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Old 01-17-2012, 09:49 AM
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They have just posted their own video. I'm not sure what to make of the thing, think I'm still tripping out from the psychedelic video effects and intense techno soundtrack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGWZp...ature=youtu.be
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Personally I liked the sound of the other head better, the other one sounded more full compared to the drum port which sounded a bit thin to me.
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Personally I liked the sound of the other head better, the other one sounded more full compared to the drum port which sounded a bit thin to me.
Actually, to me they both sounded papery and terrible.
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Old 01-18-2012, 06:43 AM
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That thing is hideous. I use Kick Port and have excellent results.
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Eww. That could be the most disgusting looking drum product ever. I would never subject the audience to a 22" anus looking thing all night. Who OK'd that design?
HAHAHA!

I think some of the theory of this object is that it increases the resonant surface area of the drum (even though it decreases the internal air mass inside the drum). The horn shape and the ridges are like having a larger resonant head.
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Old 01-18-2012, 12:08 PM
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I've got it.

Get one of those 7" deep bass drum cover things (Like a mini bass drum or a subwoofer) and take the res of your bass, put that infront of it, tape it and stick the anus on the drum cover.

No decreasing the internal bass drum air space and it acts like an amp :)
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That thing looks hideous; the opposite of classy. Though I suppose it's the sound that matters.
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Old 01-18-2012, 10:11 PM
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Old 02-05-2012, 05:18 PM
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theres a video up here. its not as amazing as i expected... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGWZp...zOTqlzq-nVKZqu
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Old 02-05-2012, 05:32 PM
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the one head, Premier, sounds like a fluffily beater and the DrumPort one sounds like a hard plastic beater. Hence the difference.
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When I listened to both videos, I thought the Drumport 'resonant ass' sounded noticeably worse to my ear. All the punch from the low end was gone and instead it just sounded boxy. And overall it sounded unnatural, like a below average electronic kick. I was curious to see exactly how it was different in a more objective way, so for anyone else who may care, I sliced up the audio from their YouTube video (the last four hits of each drum for all three mic positions) and popped that into iZotope...

First of all, check out the waveforms:


This audio, recorded from the mics, has been compressed with something like a rack compressor or in the program used to record the file, because all the hits peak right at 0 dB. You can also plainly see that the Drumport hits were significantly more compressed than the reference hits. I don't think someone can logically argue the Drumport head could physically have such a big influence over the compression of a waveform, so that leaves two possibilities:
1) they used different compressor settings to intentionally try to make their head sound subjectively louder and seem naturally punchier with a longer sustain
2) the same compression settings were used for both but the guy was actually hitting the Drumport drum harder, knowing the compressor would make them have equal peak volume but would have much less effect on the lower-threshold reference hits

Now for the EQs (averaged over all twelve hits from above):


The fact that the Drumport is about 5 dB louder comparatively across the entire spectrum despite having the same peak volume gives further evidence of the compression inequality. Keeping in mind that different compression means that the two raw EQ shapes will be affected differently (especially if dynamic range compression was used), you can see that the Drumport head appears the give a big boost around 150-175 Hz. This is not where I really like to emphasize the bass drum's low end in the mix, and in fact I tend to make a modest cut centered around 200 Hz to get rid of boxiness, which I had previously noted about the Drumport, and boost somewhere from 75-125 Hz for thump. There's also a big difference in the 4-8 kHz range, which might explain why people have noted such a large discrepancy in the beater attack because this range is boosted in the mix if a slappier, 'thwackier' kick sound is desired. This could just be a consequence of it being more heavily compressed, but I think it's more likely that this is a genuine effect of the unique head design.

So in summary, I think this head gives some noticeable differences, one in the range that emphasizes aggressive beater attack (some like this, some don't) and another in not a particularly pleasant sounding region of the bass spectrum, save for maybe 16/18" tight jazz kicks. But I think they have been intentionally misleading with the samples they posted to make it sound like their head makes a bigger difference than it really does. Meh, I hope someone got something out of this but if not, I enjoyed thinking about it at least. B)
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Anyone else noticed the lack of negative comments on the anus video?
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theres a video up here. its not as amazing as i expected... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGWZp...zOTqlzq-nVKZqu
They've compressed the Hell out of the 'B' comparison. Look at the waveforms! Squaring off the top and everything. What do you expect from a promo clip?
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:19 PM
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Not to mention he doesn't show the reverse angle where you can actually see the beater hits or the mic positioning >_>

Snare drums and bass drums are probably the two things in recording that you have to be the most careful about over-compressing. That probably makes it sound worse than whatever the heck that crazy design is reflecting from the sound wave.

Despite my wholly negative earlier post, I will say that I see two big positives about it. First, anything that encourages people to stop stuffing their kick with a small motel's worth of bedding is doing good. And second, the design allows for a great mic position for recording--centered in the radial and lengthwise center of the kick, pointing at the beater(s).
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