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Old 10-09-2011, 01:19 PM
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Default Sonor force 2007/3007 ?

Hi everyone,

Recently i posted a thread about tama superstar hyperdrive, asking which color to get as i was going to order them... but the dealer suddenly told that the order wasn't possible. So I got my pre paid money back and so on... Yet, I still didn't have drums, which i really needed. So I went to the store where i had bought my first sonor 507 drums 3 years ago and looked around there.

What catched my eye were two sonor force 2007 kits ( blue and amber fade) and a 3007 kit, for whom i don't know the name of finnish ( a mix of cherry red and dark brown, i can't even describe )

I know this has been disscused in a few other topics, but how do the 2007 birch and 3007 maple differ in sound ? I wanted to know, because I've played on 3007 and it was really open sounding, but the finish of 2007 is much better looking.

Also, besides hardware is there any other difference?

P.S. Which color you like better ?
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Old 10-09-2011, 02:11 PM
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Default Re: Sonor force 2007/3007 ?

The red onme will look good on stage, so will the blue. But, i think the
3007 is a better kit, think they have those "Burst" finishes. All comes down to taste i believe.
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Old 10-09-2011, 03:00 PM
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The "Midnight Fade" finish for the SONOR 3007 is very nice, you might want to look into that one.
Nothing wrong with 2007 kits, though, and you'll save some bucks.


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Old 10-09-2011, 03:26 PM
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I know the 3007's have ten lugs on their 22" bass drum and 14" snare..pretty sure you only get 8 lugs on these on the 2007's
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Old 10-09-2011, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: Sonor force 2007/3007 ?

Would 2007 be a big upgrade from force 507 ?

And are 2007 considered the same level as 3007 bEsides the wood ?
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Old 10-10-2011, 10:18 PM
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How much you spending? I just got a new Force 3007 from ZZounds for 685 no hardware. They only have it in one finish though, red sparkle fade to black. Sonor also has a drum package called the Extreme Force Birch which is a six piece kit and if you mail in a copy of your receipt they'll send you two cymbal stands. It's about 720. I think it might just be a repackaged 2007, as it's birch and has many of the same finishes.

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Old 10-10-2011, 10:49 PM
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I know the 3007's have ten lugs on their 22" bass drum and 14" snare..pretty sure you only get 8 lugs on these on the 2007's
True that, it's something to keep in mind.
I think the 3007's are great for mid range kits.


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Old 10-11-2011, 12:26 AM
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Default Re: Sonor force 2007/3007 ?

Would you guys put the 3007 (minus the snare) within more of a "pro" range of kit in sound/quality than an intermediate kit?

I've only been able to tap on a couple kits (not actually play)
The snare did sound pretty good, but snares are different than bass drums and toms.

The rest of the kit seemed pretty darn nice.
How are the lugs, claws and hoops on a 3007?

I really like the Red/Black burst finish (different than the posted pic).

Thinking of something for my son in the future. They'll probably "move on" from a 3007, but they'd have something along the same lines--or a used one.
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Old 10-11-2011, 01:31 AM
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I have never heard a single bad thing about them.In fact I think they are beautiful kits.Only thing to consider is that they come in unusual sizes.So make sure you like the way they sound pitch wise first.

For 650 bucks,and with sites doing Columbus day sales for 15 percent off(sites who arent will match or beat them as well)that makes it a ten lug maple stunner for under 600 new...yea now I want one too :)
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Old 10-11-2011, 01:36 AM
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Would you guys put the 3007 (minus the snare) within more of a "pro" range of kit in sound/quality than an intermediate kit?
Well, signed Sonor artists that aren't widely known do get these when first endorsed, so I guess sonor does stand behind them to showcase their brand.
I think they have many of the features of a pro kit, and they only lack in the "luxury" or exclusive aspect of much more expensive kits. Also, in terms of sound, while they'll sound great, perhaps they are a bit generic. For a cheap, Pro kit, I'd get a Mapex Saturn.


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Old 10-11-2011, 01:17 PM
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I can spend plenty enough, so i can choose between them. I am more concerned about the sound

Btw, i will buy only shell pack
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Old 10-11-2011, 05:26 PM
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I can spend plenty enough, so i can choose between them. I am more concerned about the sound

Btw, i will buy only shell pack
Again, look into the Mapex Saturn. I have a 3007 which I really like (and also like the finish), but I'd go back and get a Saturn for a little bit more.
There's little difference between a 3007 and the Mapex current equivalent maple kit (although I think the 3007 has the ten lugs, while the Mapex does not), while the Saturns are more distinct drums, with no equivalent in Sonor.


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Old 10-11-2011, 05:49 PM
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Again, look into the Mapex Saturn. I have a 3007 which I really like (and also like the finish), but I'd go back and get a Saturn for a little bit more.
There's little difference between a 3007 and the Mapex current equivalent maple kit (although I think the 3007 has the ten lugs, while the Mapex does not), while the Saturns are more distinct drums, with no equivalent in Sonor.


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Look at the 2007 and the 3007 as the twins to the Mapex Meridian birch, and the Meridian maple. Yes the Mapex Meridian maple has a full complement of lugs. All four kits are made by KHS in Korea. The are all great mid grade kits.

Fox is right about moving up to the Saturns unless you really like the sound of an all maple shell. In that case the 3007, or Meridian Maple would be the way to go. The Meridain Maple won best drum kit, I think it was two or three years ago.

Fox can I correct you on one thing. The Saturn's aren't a cheap pro drum, but an inexpensive pro drum. Just sounds nicer. :)
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Old 10-11-2011, 11:03 PM
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Default Re: Sonor force 2007/3007 ?

Well, I don't know what to do now... Where i live there isn't a big choice of mapex drums, i'd say none at all. Ebay is another option...

But, I think i'd go with the 2007 if i don't find anything on ebay.

Also are sonor tom mounts usable on mapex drums ?

P.S. I dont know why, but since i started drumming i've never been a fan of mapex.
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Old 10-11-2011, 11:03 PM
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Fox can I correct you on one thing. The Saturn's aren't a cheap pro drum, but an inexpensive pro drum. Just sounds nicer. :)
Well, man, I wish I had a Saturn, so I had to make them seem a bit less exclusive to feel a bit better about myself :P
I don't like the finishes much, though.


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Old 10-11-2011, 11:05 PM
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Well, man, I wish I had a Saturn, so I had to make them seem a bit less exclusive to feel a bit better about myself :P
I don't like the finishes much, though.


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Really. That is what most people like about them. Wait till you see my latest Saturn set, as soon as I pay it off. I think you will like this one. If you don't I am sure you will tell me. :)
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Old 10-11-2011, 11:09 PM
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Well, I don't know what to do now... Where i live there isn't a big choice of mapex drums, i'd say none at all. Ebay is another option...

But, I think i'd go with the 2007 if i don't find anything on ebay.

Also are sonor tom mounts usable on mapex drums ?

P.S. I dont know why, but since i started drumming i've never been a fan of mapex.
How long has that been? Have you ever tried one? Were do you live? Lots of good on line stores around. If both companies l-arms are the same diameter then they should work.
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Old 10-11-2011, 11:20 PM
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I live in northern europe. It's not really that i hate them, i'm just not keen on them. And unfortunately havent tried one...

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Old 10-11-2011, 11:31 PM
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I have a Sonor tom arm and it's the same as the Mapex one. At least close enough to fit properly. The box was labeled "Sonor Force 2007 tom mount' so I assume Sonor would only use one size. I originally bought it to mount a tambourine but it now holds one of the Saturn toms on my lounge practice kit.

You should be able to find measurements on the Mapex and Sonor websites to confirm, have a look for the spare parts catalogs if not on their main site.
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Old 10-11-2011, 11:37 PM
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I live in northern europe. It's not really that i hate them, i'm just not keen on them. And unfortunately havent tried one...
Don't judge a book by its title. You need to give them a try. They make great drums. They have been making shells for many other companies for years. Just like Keller in the US.
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Old 10-11-2011, 11:38 PM
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I have a Sonor tom arm and it's the same as the Mapex one. At least close enough to fit properly. The box was labeled "Sonor Force 2007 tom mount' so I assume Sonor would only use one size. I originally bought it to mount a tambourine but it now holds one of the Saturn toms on my lounge practice kit.

You should be able to find measurements on the Mapex and Sonor websites to confirm, have a look for the spare parts catalogs if not on their main site.
I will bet you that both their hardware are made by the same company.
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Old 10-11-2011, 11:49 PM
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Well you talked me into looking at mapex, for now there isn't any finish i liked on ebay thats shipping to my country... Bassically thats the biggest problem...

But if i dont find any saturn that i liked, would 2/3007 be a regretable purchase ? Because they are available in my country...

Anyways tnx for throwing in your opinion, i appreciate it.
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Old 10-11-2011, 11:53 PM
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I will bet you that both their hardware are made by the same company.
Probably. It's a totally different design but I'm pretty sure the rod is the same thickness.
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Old 10-12-2011, 01:11 AM
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I owned a 3007 for years, awesome drums, the only flaw that I saw in the drums were that the stock heads sucked! However every drum set I have bought I've swapped out batter and reso head instantly so...
No regrets in the 3007's, finding a finish is the only issue you will have. They sound great live and in your basement 10 lug bass drums are a nice touch and the tune safe lugs were a nice touch and they do work.
I have played the 2007 in a rehearsal space in which we rented, and it was quite nice as well, considering you have drummer after drummer beating it up to rehearse, it held up quite nicely.
Given the 2 setsI say go with the 3007, from my experience on them they are great drums for the money.
If you can wait, save more money and look for a pro used kit on your local ads. With the economy right now so long as your not in to big of a rush you can find some great deals,, take your time and do some looking around.
However...... You can't go wrong with a 3007, or a 2007 in my opinion.
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Old 10-12-2011, 04:50 AM
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You can't go wrong with a 3007, or a 2007 in my opinion.

Indeed ...

In fact I once owned the set pictured below, just a great and amazing set of drums IMO I only sold them to get my current Ludwig kit.

Pro level all the way in my book (at least the toms and kick) I did use either a Ludwig or Slingerland snare with the kit when I had it.
The gentleman behind them now is the new owner Bill Marshall at a recent recording session. Bill was Hank Williams Jrs drummer for 23 years
so I guess that qualifys as pro, and he loves the kit I hear.




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Old 10-12-2011, 06:26 AM
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Was that a 2007 or 3007 ? The finish looks like 3007, but bass has 8 lugs instead of 10.
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the only problem I can see with the 3/2007s are that they're discontinued (at least in Canada)...

But as an owner of a set of 2007s They're fabulous drums! The stock heads suck, but once I replaced them, I haven't had any issue with the kit.

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Was that a 2007 or 3007 ? The finish looks like 3007, but bass has 8 lugs instead of 10.

3007 ... 20" kick drum
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Old 10-12-2011, 02:58 PM
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Default Re: Sonor force 2007/3007 ?

This kit was in our rehearsal room, same colour only 22 bass... I loved the snare, it was really high and pop sounding, really cool. Also the bass was great. Toms were really open sounding even with clear pinstripes

Anyway, i guess i will go with 2007, they are available now in amber fade at my local shop, plus i have a choice between stage 2 and 3. Probably will go with stage 2.
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Old 10-17-2011, 08:01 PM
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the only problem I can see with the 3/2007s are that they're discontinued (at least in Canada)...

But as an owner of a set of 2007s They're fabulous drums! The stock heads suck, but once I replaced them, I haven't had any issue with the kit.

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They are not discontinued, they were replaced by the new Select Force (for replacing the 3007) and the Essential Force (for replacing the 2007). They keep the finish of the 2007/3007 and add some new.
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