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Old 10-08-2011, 08:25 PM
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Default The perfect snare side drum head

Ok, I've heard that Remo Ambassadors or the Evans G1 drumheads make perfect resonant side drumheads for toms but which would you say is the perfect resonant side (snare side) drumhead for a snare drum?
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Old 10-08-2011, 08:58 PM
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Default Re: The perfect snare side drum head

People say the Hazy 300/Remo Ambassador/Aquarian equivalent is the perfect one. Not too thick, not too thin, just the right amount of sensitivity.
Personally I like the ambassador, I'm thinking of try out a diplomat just to see how they sound...
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Old 10-09-2011, 12:56 AM
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Default Re: The perfect snare side drum head

aquarian snare side hi-performance head.

it has some sort of "special material" where the ends of your snare wires rest, and helps prevent snare wires from snapping/puncturing holes into the head there. especially good if you like to cut your snare wires down. :)
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Old 10-09-2011, 03:49 AM
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Default Re: The perfect snare side drum head

I really like the Aquarian Hi Performance and the Ludwig snare side. Clean, bright, and open, with great sensitivity.

I've used Evans 200 and 300 and Remo Ambassador snare side and I like them just fine. I just prefer the sound of clear film on the snare side, as opposed to hazy film.
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Old 10-09-2011, 03:58 AM
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I just prefer the sound of clear film on the snare side, as opposed to hazy film.
Really? You can hear a difference? I've always wondered why hazy gets advertized. I haven't been terribly picky about snare sides over the years. I just default to an Ambassador. However, I did not like the stock Ludwig that came with my LM402. It was sensitive but made the drum feel dry and choked. I couldn't get an open sound so I put an Ambassador on there (batter too) and it's been a treat ever since.
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Old 10-09-2011, 12:17 PM
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Default Re: The perfect snare side drum head

I can hear the difference between hazy/clear when I pull the wires up and let them snap against the head. This would surely have an effect on the overall sound.
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Old 10-09-2011, 03:56 PM
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Really? You can hear a difference? I've always wondered why hazy gets advertized. I haven't been terribly picky about snare sides over the years. I just default to an Ambassador. However, I did not like the stock Ludwig that came with my LM402. It was sensitive but made the drum feel dry and choked. I couldn't get an open sound so I put an Ambassador on there (batter too) and it's been a treat ever since.
It's subtle, but I hear a little more brightness in the tone with clear film. Hazy and especially opaque snare side heads seem to have more "snap" in the snare response that sounds a little harsh at times to my ears.
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Old 10-10-2011, 03:32 PM
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Default Re: The perfect snare side drum head

I can hear a real difference between the hazy Amb and the Clear heads.
I use a No-Collar Amb (SA-0314-TD), which is a clear film.

It's a similar construction to the Ludwig head, but it's a beefier tone than what a Ludwig has. Not as dry either.
Very durable.

I like the hazy head sound, it's fine, but the clear No-Collar has better sensitivity, and I really like the sound I get on all my snares with it.
Been using this head for years now.

http://remo.com/portal/products/3/9/.../ss_clear.html
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Old 10-10-2011, 06:09 PM
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I've always gone with an Ambassador snare. Never bothered to experiment.
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Old 10-10-2011, 06:33 PM
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I use a No-Collar Amb (SA-0314-TD), which is a clear film.
Hey, that's cool! I've never heard of those before. I might need to try them. I got S-Hoops top and bottom for both my snares but the bottom doesn't work that great with standard snare side heads with collars because as it pulls down tight, the inside lip of the S-Hoop starts to mash into the head - not good! But I think these collar-less jobs might be just the thing!

I know it's dumb, but I've never been thrilled with the hazy look that clear Ambassadors have - especially for a kick reso (I like clear reso on the kick a la Simon Phillips).
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Old 10-10-2011, 06:33 PM
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I really like the Aquarian Hi Performance and the Ludwig snare side. Clean, bright, and open, with great sensitivity.
Really? I found the Ludwig snare side head to be the worst head I've ever tried. To each their own :-)

I favour the old faithful; the Remo Ambassador Hazy.
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Old 10-11-2011, 02:19 AM
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Hey, that's cool! I've never heard of those before. I might need to try them. I got S-Hoops top and bottom for both my snares but the bottom doesn't work that great with standard snare side heads with collars because as it pulls down tight, the inside lip of the S-Hoop starts to mash into the head - not good! But I think these collar-less jobs might be just the thing!

I know it's dumb, but I've never been thrilled with the hazy look that clear Ambassadors have - especially for a kick reso (I like clear reso on the kick a la Simon Phillips).

I started using that head about 5-6 years ago (at least). One of my guys at the shop hipped me to them. It's a really nice one, and it's real durable too, even though it's only a 3 mil head.

Simon used a Clear Ambassador batters when my band played with Toto. he had painted front heads, but he uses a Clear Amb reso a lot too.
These look pretty clear. If you can zoom in, you can see it's an Ambassador.



I always liked the look of a clear front, but, I could never do it myself though for some reason.
Maybe someday.
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Old 10-12-2011, 01:34 AM
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Default Re: The perfect snare side drum head

I dont know if there such a thing as a perfect one and they are going to sound different depending on the batter head being used as well but personally I like the aquarian classic clear snare side reso with the coated studio x batter which has a nice wet sound and allows me to add a studio ring when a dry sound is needed.
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