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Old 10-02-2011, 12:26 AM
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Default Block Letter Zildjian K's - are they inferior?

I've heard from a unanimous source that Zildjian made the block letter era Zildjian K's cheaper than the older and newer ones. Is is this true? and in what way? Is tone sacrificed? Durability?
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Old 10-02-2011, 05:36 AM
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I've heard from a unanimous source ...

Does that mean 1.) everybody is a source or 2.) One person who wishes to remain unknown is a source or 3.) You saw it in an Ebay ad for an 18" crash ride?
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Old 10-02-2011, 08:26 AM
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Please put up some pictures so I can see what you are referring to.
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Old 10-02-2011, 08:48 AM
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Does that mean 1.) everybody is a source or 2.) One person who wishes to remain unknown is a source or 3.) You saw it in an Ebay ad for an 18" crash ride?
LOL!

Unanimous, anonymous or ebay hey? I'm voting ebay
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Old 10-02-2011, 09:17 AM
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Default Re: Block Letter Zildjian K's - are they inferior?

The only true test of whether a cymbal is made well or poorly is with the ears. I own Zildjians purchased at several times over the last 25 years and they all are very good, professional cymbals.

If you're referring to the cymbals made from the 70s to the early 90s, I own a crash, an original K Custom ride, and a pair of hats from that period and they all sound outstanding to me. I bought the crash new 25 years ago and the ride 20 years ago. Never had any issue with either one. The hats are used and they sound awesome as well.
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Old 10-02-2011, 04:46 PM
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The Ks are part of Zild's high end product line.
They have gone up in price over the years but the quality has remained steady.
Zildjian would never cheapen out the K line and ruin their reputation.
That would be a very foolish business practice.
The competition between cymbal manufacturers is rough.
There are many great cymbal makers out there producing pies for a relatively small group of buyers.
A cymbal company has to put out a top quality product in their Pro grade lines.
Only the most skilled workers work on K production at the Zild plant.
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Old 10-02-2011, 05:12 PM
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LOL!

Unanimous, anonymous or ebay hey? I'm voting ebay
I WAS pokin a little fun at the spelling but, coincidentally I had just added this to my watch list:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/400245739662...84.m1423.l2649

In this posting it says: "This cymbal does have a serial number along with the previously mentioned block lettering which places production somewhere between 1997 amd 2003, when Zildjian cheapened the K Zildjian series in order to compete with Sabian."

First I had ever heard of it. I dunno if there's any truth to it. I figure they were "cheapened" when they quit using a bunch of Turks to beat on 'em with hammers.
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Old 10-02-2011, 05:23 PM
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I have four K's that were made after 05 and I can testify that there is nothing cheap about them.
I use them as my go to pies for Rock and Country. I sometimes use them for Jazz over my Istanbul Agop's in certain situations.
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Old 10-02-2011, 09:09 PM
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I wish that Zildjian would cheapen their K line even more, then I would buy many more, lol.

Ks are great sounding cymbals. I was listening to a bunch of Zildjian K Dark crashes in 16, 17, 18 and 19" this past Saturday, both in thin and medium thin and like all Zildjian cymbals, or any cymbals, you gotta listen to them before you buy them. Their 20" K Ride is also very nice sounding in my opinion.

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Old 10-03-2011, 05:38 AM
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From my experience, the older block letter Ks from the 80s/90s are very different from the more recent Ks being produced. Not only are the logos different, but the design is as well. Visually, they all have the distinctive "K" hammering throughout, but the older models have much wider lathing, and of course different logos. From a sound standpoint from the ones I own and have played, they all have the warm, dark undertones characteristic in most K crashes but the recent models seem to also have brighter overtones. This may be due to trends in music and the sounds needed, or just my ear. The feel is where they are very different. My brand new 18" K Thin Dark Crash noticeably thicker and heavier than the 80s era 18" K Thin Dark Crash, and projects much more. Their basic sound profile is very similar, however. Zildjian has seemed to have added thickness to their larger Ks over the past few years, the K Custom Dark Crash being the one that really suffered from it. I have one from the late 90s/early 00s and it is MUCH thinner than the new ones I've played at Guitar Center. There's nothing wrong with a K from any era, I think it just comes down to which you think sounds better.
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From my experience, the older block letter Ks from the 80s/90s are very different from the more recent Ks being produced. Not only are the logos different, but the design is as well. Visually, they all have the distinctive "K" hammering throughout, but the older models have much wider lathing, and of course different logos. From a sound standpoint from the ones I own and have played, they all have the warm, dark undertones characteristic in most K crashes but the recent models seem to also have brighter overtones. This may be due to trends in music and the sounds needed, or just my ear. The feel is where they are very different. My brand new 18" K Thin Dark Crash noticeably thicker and heavier than the 80s era 18" K Thin Dark Crash, and projects much more. Their basic sound profile is very similar, however. Zildjian has seemed to have added thickness to their larger Ks over the past few years, the K Custom Dark Crash being the one that really suffered from it. I have one from the late 90s/early 00s and it is MUCH thinner than the new ones I've played at Guitar Center. There's nothing wrong with a K from any era, I think it just comes down to which you think sounds better.

Thank you. This was the only helpful post in this thread.
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Old 10-04-2011, 05:03 PM
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Default Re: Block Letter Zildjian K's - are they inferior?

Yeah, that new style of lettering really puts a damper on the tone of the cymbals...
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Default Re: Block Letter Zildjian K's - are they inferior?

Off topic, but anyone ever see block letters like this before though?

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