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Old 09-28-2011, 09:39 PM
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Great concept and everything, but has anyone other than me had trouble with it being to big for their tension rods?
I just recently picked one up, along with some new heads, and it just spins around the head of the tension rods on my tama snare...
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Old 09-29-2011, 12:58 AM
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Great concept and everything, but has anyone other than me had trouble with it being to big for their tension rods?
I just recently picked one up, along with some new heads, and it just spins around the head of the tension rods on my tama snare...
The only problem I have with them is on my Tama drums and I've tried a few of the Evans Magnetic keys and they all do the same. I really believe that the heads on the Tama tension rods are just a bit undersized. These same keys work well on my other kits.

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Old 09-29-2011, 01:10 AM
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my other drum keys work just fine, that is when i don't lose them
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Old 09-29-2011, 11:12 AM
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The only problem I have with them is on my Tama drums and I've tried a few of the Evans Magnetic keys and they all do the same. I really believe that the heads on the Tama tension rods are just a bit undersized. These same keys work well on my other kits.

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i have an evans torque key (which has the magnets in it too) and it fits 100% on my starclassic AND my fibrestar...
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Old 09-29-2011, 11:16 AM
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Maybe its because im a Remo guy...
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Old 09-29-2011, 01:24 PM
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I've never had an issue with the Evans magnetic key being too large for a tension rod but they must be large than other drum keys. I have one of the Evans DARA key chain adapters http://www.rainbow-music.hr/?p=2806 hanging in my stick bag and have noticed that other keys are too small to fit on it.
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The only problem I have with them is on my Tama drums and I've tried a few of the Evans Magnetic keys and they all do the same. I really believe that the heads on the Tama tension rods are just a bit undersized. These same keys work well on my other kits.

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That's a bit ironic, seeing as Tama kits are the only ones that come with Evans heads as stock. You'd think that if any drum key was going to fit Tama rods perfectly, it would be an Evans key :-)
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Old 09-29-2011, 01:36 PM
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That's a bit ironic, seeing as Tama kits are the only ones that come with Evans heads as stock. You'd think that if any drum key was going to fit Tama rods perfectly, it would be an Evans key :-)
good point lol, but Gretsch comes with them to, or at least the Catalinas i know come with them.
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Old 09-29-2011, 02:02 PM
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Maybe its because im a Remo guy...
im an aquarian guy ;)
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Old 09-29-2011, 02:14 PM
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im an aquarian guy ;)
I was aquarian for a long time, but their kick heads didn't have enough volume, a powerstroke 3 fixed it, and right now i use a vintage A on my snare and vintage Emperors on my toms, but i would gladly switch between those and a high energy and performance IIs any time.

Im just wanting a bit more open tone now, but its bound to change.

and i wont use evans heads their g1 and g2 heads where dead in any tuning range, and the ec2 snare head rang more than an ambassador, and emads are good, but not very sturdy... and then the key issue!
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Old 09-29-2011, 02:17 PM
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i get plenty of volume out of my superkick 2 :)
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Old 09-29-2011, 02:23 PM
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i get plenty of volume out of my superkick 2 :)
hmmm weird, i broke the first layer of sk IIs just trying to get volume, and a regular sk sounded like a canon on my first kit, but that was about it.

Well to each their own, though i would like to get another high energy, gonna have to order one because no one carries a 13 incher -.-

and another drum key
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That's a bit ironic, seeing as Tama kits are the only ones that come with Evans heads as stock. You'd think that if any drum key was going to fit Tama rods perfectly, it would be an Evans key :-)
Actually some of the Gretsch kits also come with first quality Evans heads such as the New Classics and Renowns. If Evans would also make Tama's tension rods, all the Evans keys would probably work.

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Old 09-29-2011, 11:45 PM
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i have an evans torque key (which has the magnets in it too) and it fits 100% on my starclassic AND my fibrestar...
The Evans Torque key and the Evans magnetic key are two separate entities. I also have the "torque key" and it's fairly secure on my Tama Starclassic Bubinga rods and also my Tama Artworks maple snare. The straight Evans magnetic key will just basically spin on the Tama rods.

As I first stated, I believed that the Tama rods were a bit undersized, and after measuring them and comparing them to my other kits, I am correct in that statement. I also measured the inside of three keys with a set of digital calipers, and the Evans Magnetic key has the largest opening at .246 inches or 6.25 metric. The Evans Torque key has an opening of .243 or 6.19 mm and the supplied Tama key is the smallest at .226 inches or 5.75 mm.

This is why the Evans Magnetic key will not contact the four walls of the Tama tension rods with enough accuracy to be able to put enough pressure on the tension rods without the key just turning freely over the rod's head.

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Old 09-29-2011, 11:54 PM
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The Evans Torque key and the Evans magnetic key are two separate entities. I also have the "torque key" and it's fairly secure on my Tama Starclassic Bubinga rods and also my Tama Artworks maple snare. The straight Evans magnetic key will just basically spin on the Tama rods.

As I first stated, I believed that the Tama rods were a bit undersized, and after measuring them and comparing them to my other kits, I am correct in that statement. I also measured the inside of three keys with a set of digital calipers, and the Evans Magnetic key has the largest opening at .246 inches or 6.25 metric. The Evans Torque key has an opening of .243 or 6.19 mm and the supplied Tama key is the smallest at .226 inches or 5.75 mm.

This is why the Evans Magnetic key will not contact the four walls of the Tama tension rods with enough accuracy to be able to put enough pressure on the tension rods without the key just turning freely over the rod's head.
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WOO thanks for the info :)
But i thought everything was supposed to me universal?
Hopefully evans isn't like that with both of the japanese companies, because im looking into some Yamahas right now xP
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Old 09-30-2011, 01:49 AM
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WOO thanks for the info :)
But i thought everything was supposed to me universal?
Hopefully evans isn't like that with both of the japanese companies, because im looking into some Yamahas right now xP
The Evans magnetic key works fine on my Yamaha drums.
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Old 09-30-2011, 04:58 AM
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The Evans magnetic key works fine on my Yamaha drums.
As they also do on mine. My Yamaha tension rod heads are .219 inches, where my Tama tension heads are .208 inches. The Evans Magnetic key does not slip at all on my Yamaha drums.



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Old 10-14-2011, 02:56 AM
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I bought one from Musicians Friend, it made a great fridge magnet...

I was changing heads on my new drums when about six lugs through, the magnetic key sucked up the rod and then when it was turned, it got stuck hexagonally, yeah, so it was stuck wedged into the drum key. I first tried pulling it, then slamming it, forcing it out with tools, it didn't come out. After two weeks of trying intermittently I called MF and they refunded me the money without me having to ship it back. I threw it away! I thought it was a waste but I tried everything I could and my lug still wouldn't come out!!
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I use these badge holders from work for my keys and hang them on my cymbal stands. Always there when I need them. Sorry to get off subject.
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I wish that someone would post a pic or a video that shows an Evans key not fitting a tension rod.
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I wish that someone would post a pic or a video that shows an Evans key not fitting a tension rod.


I made a quick video comparing a Tama Key, a Yamaha key, a DW key, an Evans torque key and two standard Evans Magnetic keys to show exactly how they work on a Tama Starclassic Bubinga snare drum tension rod. I just got to figure how to get this 2 minute video on this thread, lol.

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My DW rack came with two different nylon clips. One to clip on the rack, and or one to clip on a cymbal or hi-hat stand. I use both on my hi-hat rack. One for my large DW rack clamps, and one for my DW drum key.
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I made a quick video comparing a Tama Key, a Yamaha key, a DW key, an Evans torque key and two standard Evans Magnetic keys to show exactly how they work on a Tama Starclassic Bubinga snare drum tension rod. I just got to figure how to get this 2 minute video on this thread, lol.

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Just put it on You Tube and link it dennis.
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Just put it on You Tube and link it dennis.
I'm uploading one to youtube right now.
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Old 10-18-2011, 12:42 AM
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Proof it doesn't fit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSUqA-AmhFY
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Just put it on You Tube and link it dennis.
I had to get the down load from YouTube since I never belonged to it and something just isn't working. I'm getting a red letter statement saying that my retry is exceeded. I'll figure this computer gizmo out soon or later, lol. I'm glad I don't go by videotech.

belairien's video is basically similar to mine in the fact that the key just turns without fully contacting the tension rod's head.

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Old 10-18-2011, 01:06 AM
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Wait for the Remo one. It will probably work fine. :)
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Wait for the Remo one. It will probably work fine. :)
Remo has never failed me :)
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Here is what I use.
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I had to get the down load from YouTube since I never belonged to it and something just isn't working. I'm getting a red letter statement saying that my retry is exceeded. I'll figure this computer gizmo out soon or later, lol. I'm glad I don't go by videotech.

belairien's video is basically similar to mine in the fact that the key just turns without fully contacting the tension rod's head.

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Interesting, Its not easy being you! :)
I don't ever remember having to download anything from You Tube. I simply joined and I was able to upload from iMovie. I also sometimes turn my iMovie projects into iTunes movies and I then upload them. I also upload right from QuickTime.

Anyway, thanks belairien, your vid was short and concise.
Seeing is believing.
I wish that you had shown a close up of how loose the key fits on the rod.
I have about five drum keys from Gretsch, Pearl, Sonor, etc and I mix and match them on all of my kits without problem.
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Interesting, Its not easy being you! :)
I don't ever remember having to download anything from You Tube. I simply joined and I was able to upload from iMovie. I also sometimes turn my iMovie projects into iTunes movies and I then upload them. I also upload right from QuickTime.

Anyway, thanks belairien, your vid was short and concise.
Seeing is believing.
I wish that you had shown a close up of how loose the key fits on the rod.
I have about five drum keys from Gretsch, Pearl, Sonor, etc and I mix and match them on all of my kits without problem.
I had little battery power in my camera, and can't find my charger. when i find it i will upload a longer one.
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I believe this might just work now. YouTube video #1 for me.

BTW, each of my Evans Magnetic keys work on all my other drum kits. I think it's a combination of Tama's small heads on their tension rods and Evans loose fitting magnetic key.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vAn-Gx2alc

Sorry about the poor video quality, my cameraman was out to lunch.

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Old 10-18-2011, 06:07 AM
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show that to evansprez!
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How well do they work in general?. Are they worth the dough?.
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show that to evansprez!
I emailed that problem to Evans almost two years ago and never got a reply. I probably will approach him about it in the near future. Those Magnetic keys just fit too loosely even on standard size tension rod heads. There's just too much slop in their tooling.

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How well do they work in general?. Are they worth the dough?.
On every other drum manufacturers kits that I tried they work well, but as I already stated, they do fit loosely on all tension rods. I like to keep one on my floor tom because I like a key very handy to me and being magnetic, they don't vibrate as much as a regular key which in turn keeps a cleaner signal going into the mics.

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