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Old 09-20-2011, 03:17 PM
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Here's a current birdseye of my kit. It's 10 up, 12, 14 down. The main reason for this setup is to keep the ride over my kick. That's very important to me. I also have a 16" hanging tom that matches this kit, but I've yet to use it because I can't figure out a good way to mount it. I thought about putting it on my left beside the hats. Anyone played 1 up, 3 down? Any ideas on how to make this work? What about putting the 14/16 on the right and the 12 on the left? I seldom play sequential rolls on the toms, so they don't necessarily need to be in order.

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Old 09-20-2011, 03:52 PM
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I'd put the 10" on the left and the rest in normal position
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Old 09-20-2011, 04:33 PM
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Don't laugh: leave the 10" where it is, then go 16"-14" on the right and hang the 12" on the left. Thank me later...

Personally, I'd lose the 10" and do the 12" up top with the 14" on the left and the 16" on the right (I prefer a quasi-symmetrical setup).
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Old 09-20-2011, 04:38 PM
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Don't laugh: leave the 10" where it is, then go 16"-14" on the right and hang the 12" on the left. Thank me later...

Personally, I'd lose the 10" and do the 12" up top with the 14" on the left and the 16" on the right (I prefer a quasi-symmetrical setup).
I like the 10 up. I just don't enjoy having a 12 up there, too low-pitched for what I'm doing.

Am I understanding you to recommend inverting the 14 and 16 on the right side? In other words, the 16 closer to the kick and the 14 after that? I'm open to it, but why?

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Old 09-20-2011, 04:40 PM
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If you want to leave the ride where it is, I would put the 10,12 up to the left of the ride, and put the 14, 16 on the floor to your right.
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Old 09-20-2011, 07:02 PM
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If you want to leave the ride where it is, I would put the 10,12 up to the left of the ride, and put the 14, 16 on the floor to your right.
Then he'd have to move his hats over to the left a bit.

I've seen a few guys put a floor tom to their left. I suppose you really don't need them in order if you're not doing the standard "Hawaii Five O" fill. Dom Famulario's kit comes to mind but I'm sure there are many. I really can't think of anyone that actually has a one-up 3-down setup though. I'm sure it'd look great though.
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Old 09-20-2011, 07:07 PM
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i would do this:
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Old 09-20-2011, 07:08 PM
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Dennis chambers uses 3 up 3 down I think, and he uses the 3 floors (14 16 18 by the look of it) just on his right. Seems like a hell of a reach for the last floor tom though!
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Old 09-20-2011, 07:11 PM
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Then he'd have to move his hats over to the left a bit.
Well if you want the toms, you have to make some space. :)
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Old 09-20-2011, 07:47 PM
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put the largest floor tom on the left side of the hats
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Old 09-20-2011, 08:39 PM
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Well if you want the toms, you have to make some space. :)
Yeah, but I had my Deedubs set up that way and really didn't like it. Had to sell the kit because I couldn't handle the reach to the hi-hats...
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Old 09-20-2011, 08:41 PM
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i would do this:
I thought about that too and am intrigued by it. Do you put the 12 flat and at the same height as the 2 floors or is it slightly raised and angled?
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Yeah, but I had my Deedubs set up that way and really didn't like it. Had to sell the kit because I couldn't handle the reach to the hi-hats...
Really. You would hate my kit then. :) I find you can get used to anything within reason.
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Old 09-20-2011, 08:50 PM
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0 up, 3 down ..... don't be afraid to move stuff around ... you can always move it back, if you don't like a certain placement ...
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I like the 10 up. I just don't enjoy having a 12 up there, too low-pitched for what I'm doing.

Am I understanding you to recommend inverting the 14 and 16 on the right side? In other words, the 16 closer to the kick and the 14 after that? I'm open to it, but why?

thanks!
I have thought of doing this exact same thing with my set, with exact same sized toms. Thanks for putting this up as it gives me some ideas.
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Old 09-20-2011, 09:06 PM
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I thought about that too and am intrigued by it. Do you put the 12 flat and at the same height as the 2 floors or is it slightly raised and angled?
personally I would have it slightly raised and angled. check out like ronald bruner jr, i think he has the 12 like this. and i know teddy campell has a 10 inch snare there as well.
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Old 09-22-2011, 04:43 AM
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put the largest floor tom on the left side of the hats
Simplest and best solution in my opinion.

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Old 09-22-2011, 06:59 AM
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on the left.

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Old 09-22-2011, 07:02 AM
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From the look of your unused tom heads - maybe you don't need toms at all? Just go with a two-piece. No-up and no-down ;)
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Old 09-22-2011, 03:23 PM
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From the look of your unused tom heads - maybe you don't need toms at all? Just go with a two-piece. No-up and no-down ;)
New heads...smartass;-)
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Old 09-23-2011, 08:23 PM
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I have 1 up with 3 ft's. I love it.
I put either a 15 or a 16 on the left (16-18 right side). I use the left drum a lot.

I did 2 on each side as well (Left 14-16, Right 16-18 alternating hands). It was pretty cool, but I didn't like hauling it all.
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Old 09-25-2011, 01:26 PM
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Might aswell call that "full" up, or "full down" ...

Is that stool put in a drum? And is that snare about as high as the "up" toms?
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Old 09-25-2011, 01:35 PM
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I'm all for putting the 16" to the left of the hats. It lets you play some cool open hand combos with the toms, snare and hats :)
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Might aswell call that "full" up, or "full down" ...

Is that stool put in a drum? And is that snare about as high as the "up" toms?
All three drums on the left are snares, at least the "snare" and the one in rack tom position. The one on the left may be a shallow tom.
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Old 09-25-2011, 06:15 PM
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I'd go 12 on left, 14 and 16 to the right.

Alternatively, I once had a matching 13" for both of my kits. I placed it directly to the right of my hats. In your situation, it would be 12 - 10 - 14 - 16. What is shown in the picture below is 13 - 8 - 10 - 12 - 14 - 16...so just eliminate the 8 and 12 and that would be your setup.

You'd be surprised how often I ended up using the 13, especially in conjunction with the 1st floor (14).

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Old 09-25-2011, 11:54 PM
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Might aswell call that "full" up, or "full down" ...

Is that stool put in a drum? And is that snare about as high as the "up" toms?
That's Jack white's set up. Dead Weather i believe?
Any way, all the drums are completely flat and on the same level toms, floors, snares and all
The throne is an old style of throne made to match the drum kit. You see them a lot with old drum kits, think jazz and classic rock with slingerland, gretsch and ludwig. Personally i like the look of them but they always seemed uncomfortable to me.
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Old 09-30-2011, 05:57 AM
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I set it up tonight and am enjoying it so far. Here's what I came up with (10 up, 12 down on the left, 14 and 16 down on the right):





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Bump-

Just curious if anyone else is running this setup- Josh how do you like it (still out there?)?

I just moved my 18" FT to the L side of my hats (13 up, 16 FT on R, 26 kick) and I am totally transformed! fills are all over the place, crazy low accents in my two handed 16th note grooves, total freedom.

I actually have splash under my hats and slightly to the left- same general setup as the pic above but one less tom.

Anyone? Bo dont you play like this sometimes?
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I kinda like what this guy did:
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Just curious if anyone else is running this setup- Josh how do you like it (still out there?)?

I just moved my 18" FT to the L side of my hats (13 up, 16 FT on R, 26 kick) and I am totally transformed! fills are all over the place, crazy low accents in my two handed 16th note grooves, total freedom.

I actually have splash under my hats and slightly to the left- same general setup as the pic above but one less tom.

Anyone? Bo dont you play like this sometimes?
Hey, sorry for the delay. I just saw this. To answer your question, no, I don't use that setup anymore. Mostly because I didn't like the tom hanging off the hi-hat...too unstable. I may try putting the 12" in a snare stand and trying that on the left.
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You are not the only one using this set up, brother! I do use it as well but 1 up 1 down / 4-piece, it gives more space and flexibility to move around the kit and to swing the ride cymbal.

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I still use 3 ft's.
The 18 is out more like Steve Smith's. I sometimes do multiple strokes on it, but mainly just single hit or two drums at once.

I like the left side ft because it's like a 4 piece going each way.





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I'd put the 10 on the right, the larger rack on the left (like Cobham, Arnoff and I do - I'm not saying I play like them) and add another ft or two
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Jack White's kit, right? I've always loved the look of that kit, haven't been able to imagine playing it myself. Jack plays it pretty boss, for sure...
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Jack White's kit, right? I've always loved the look of that kit, haven't been able to imagine playing it myself. Jack plays it pretty boss, for sure...
Spot on, bro!
Can't imagine myself playing that either. Guess he's heading for a hunchback look when he becomes older...;)
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