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Old 08-11-2011, 01:54 AM
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Default 2011 Ludwig Classic Maple kit dialed in.

Finally got my Green Sparkle Bonham kit tuned up right with mucho help on the bass drum from YouTubes Dan Zalac (groovedrumming.com) and his bass drum tuning video I purchased from his website. Best $4.75 I ever spent cause I could NEVER get my bass drums sounding right and here's what I ended up with. Sorry for the messy drumming, I'm TRYIN to get better but it's a slow process when yer a guitar player trying to self teach yourself to play drums@!

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Old 08-11-2011, 02:52 AM
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Finally got my Green Sparkle Bonham kit tuned up right with mucho help on the bass drum from YouTubes Dan Zalac (groovedrumming.com) and his bass drum tuning video I purchased from his website. Best $4.75 I ever spent cause I could NEVER get my bass drums sounding right and here's what I ended up with. Sorry for the messy drumming, I'm TRYIN to get better but it's a slow process when yer a guitar player trying to self teach yourself to play drums@!

http://www.soundclick.com/player/sin...&q=hi&newref=1
Those toms sound amazing!

Did you add reverb, or echo afterwards? The bass drum sounds like you're hitting it a few times each, which doesn't seem natural. Other than that it sounds terrific, very big and boomy! :)

Snare isn't quite doing it for me, but that's the most personal drum, so if you're happy cheers to you!

Congrats!
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Old 08-11-2011, 04:21 AM
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Default Re: 2011 Ludwig Classic Maple kit dialed in.

Thanks, nothing was added afterwards. I was using a preset delay program on my Tascam digital 8trk recorder that I probably should have left off. But the groove was flowing so to speak so I mastered the tracks (2 tracks, one SM57 mic on the toms, cymbals and snare and a Beta 52 kick drum mic on the bass) in place and burned them onto a cd. I listened to the same mic'd up kit on a dry setup with a bit of compression and the character or the drums was the same but more up front. Glad you liked the toms because I spent the most time on them getting a good resonance from them. These big drums required a learning curve when it came to tuning them and I feel I'm basically on the right track.
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Old 08-11-2011, 06:20 AM
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Default Re: 2011 Ludwig Classic Maple kit dialed in.

I listened to your track, which 99% of the time I never do, but you wanted opinions on the sound of your kit and not your playing, well here it is. Record it again without any type of effects. To me it sounds terrible the way it sits right now. Some people might like the clutter, but I'm not one of them.

BTW, if you get them re-recorded dry, I'll be glad to give them another listen.

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Old 08-11-2011, 06:23 AM
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Default Re: 2011 Ludwig Classic Maple kit dialed in.

Sad to say, that didn't sound good to me at all. But I THINK it was the recording and not the drums...
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Old 08-12-2011, 02:20 AM
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Default Re: 2011 Ludwig Classic Maple kit dialed in.

Re-record that please. Personal opinion, reverb and delay should be naturally occurring from the room or mic placement techniques.

Whenever adding effects, I do so post-production, so I can manipulate. If you record with effects, you're stuck. It's 2011, you can always add them later with any DAW.

At the most drums get some slight compression and EQ. Any condensor mic used on drums is completely dry (compression can completely kill good cymbal sound).
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Old 08-12-2011, 03:56 PM
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Default Re: 2011 Ludwig Classic Maple kit dialed in.

I think it sounds really good, albeit a bit disorienting at first. I like the snare. What type of snare is it ? I really like the sound of the Ludwig Maple Classics. I have considered one but wish they offered more lacquer finish options.
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Old 08-12-2011, 06:37 PM
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I think it sounds really good, albeit a bit disorienting at first. I like the snare. What type of snare is it ? I really like the sound of the Ludwig Maple Classics. I have considered one but wish they offered more lacquer finish options.
Thanks, yeah I could have gone dry with the signal but I just like to hit record with whatever's up on the menu at the time and fool around a few minutes and once in a great while I'll share whatever I did that day with other drummers or friends. The main thing I was happiest about was the quality of the boom going on with the bass. Tuning that big 26" bass was not at all intuitive for me and I actually had to seek help getting the sound I thought should be there all the time but wasn't. The quality of that bass sound comes across perfectly in that clip although with a tad bit of echo after the fact. The snare is a Ludwig Supraphonic 6 1/2x14" with a Ludwig snare side head, a Remo Emperor coated smooth white batter and Puresound custom 20 strand snares. Next time I get a new cymbal or whatever I'll try to remember to record dry and I'll post up at that time but I'm not going to redo my demonstration in this thread simply because it would be comparing apples to oranges on account of I never play the same thing twice, cause I cant!
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