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Old 08-08-2011, 02:19 AM
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Yes, add me to the list of guys wishing Evans had a better "vintage" option. I've tried the Strata, which isn't bad, but wish there was a 2-ply option and the coating does not adhere to the film well. I had two heads lose small chunks of coating when first removing them from the box because the coating stuck to the cardboard better than the head itself. Disappointing, especially since the sound overall is pretty nice.

Since then I've switched to Aquarian Modern Vintage but now that Remo has expanded Skyntone to include tom sizes I've been seriously considering returning to Remo, which is something I never thought I'd do, but calf-style heads are the one thing Evans isn't providing.
Thanks for your honesty. We're working on it and I hope to have an Evans option that fits your needs very soon.
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Old 08-08-2011, 02:21 AM
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Regal Tip Combos. One of the lightest, thinnest sticks on the planet.

If I actually had the opportunity to design my own stick :) , it would be:
- Regal Tip Combo length and width
- Round nylon tip, not oval
- Taper very close to the tip, to allow a little more beef over a longer part of the stick, since it's already extremely narrow.

That would hit the spot.
I'm going out on a limb here - you're not playing metal are you......Seriously, thanks for the input and we'll see if we can add something in that range in the future.
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Old 08-08-2011, 02:21 AM
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Thanks for your honesty. We're working on it and I hope to have an Evans option that fits your needs very soon.
Put me on the list too! I'd give them a go. I love vintage heads!
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Thanks for your honesty. We're working on it and I hope to have an Evans option that fits your needs very soon.
Thanks for being willing (and thick skinned enough) to put yourself out there to find out what we want.

I've played Evans almost exclusively for more than 10 years and I've always found an Evans head that met a certain sound need I had except when it came to a calfskin style head so I'm really excited to know something else is coming.

If I'm allowed to push my luck even further I'd have to say that the only other thing I'd love to see Evans produce would be a low collar water clear snare side head. I've found that low collar snare side heads tune up a lot easier and I like the brightness and clarity of clear film over hazy. I've been tempted several times to try the Glass 500 but 200 or 300 weight would seal the deal.
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Old 08-08-2011, 02:56 AM
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I'm going out on a limb here - you're not playing metal are you......Seriously, thanks for the input and we'll see if we can add something in that range in the future.
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Old 08-08-2011, 03:24 AM
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Thanks for being willing (and thick skinned enough) to put yourself out there to find out what we want.

I've played Evans almost exclusively for more than 10 years and I've always found an Evans head that met a certain sound need I had except when it came to a calfskin style head so I'm really excited to know something else is coming.

If I'm allowed to push my luck even further I'd have to say that the only other thing I'd love to see Evans produce would be a low collar water clear snare side head. I've found that low collar snare side heads tune up a lot easier and I like the brightness and clarity of clear film over hazy. I've been tempted several times to try the Glass 500 but 200 or 300 weight would seal the deal.
You are not alone in your request. We'll definitely take a look at the low collar. Not sure about the clarity of the head but we'll see what's possible. Thanks, Rick
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Old 08-08-2011, 03:46 AM
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This is fantastic, I love it when companies turn out to be run by real people. I do have a question though, what method do you use to put the dry vents in your genera dry heads? They're absolutely my favorite snare head and I haven't found a snare they didn't improve, I'd love to know what goes into creating them.
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I don't know how constructive this will be but I played Pro-Mark sticks as a kid and into my twenties, but now I use Vater and Vic Firth. I like those sticks and I'd probably still like Pro-Mark but when I first started playing them, the logo was toward the butt end and wasn't visible when playing. Now it's half way up the stick and practically gives me vertigo as I catch it whizzing by my face! I don't know - it just looks weird and causes dischord in my pea brain. If that logo were to ever migrate back to where it's "supposed" to be, I might migrate back to Pro-Mark.

Love Evans heads, though. I like Remo too, and go back and forth. But I've always thought Evans made top notch heads.
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any chance on making a solid dowel-type rock stick with no tip, at approx. 9/16"??? i personally favor the 16" length - Zildjian has one that's shorter and it really doesn't quite 'reach'. Also, theirs isn't oak, and in my opinion, oak is unquestionably the most durable...I would think you'd have an instant market. thanks for coolness.
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Old 08-08-2011, 05:47 AM
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I really love Regal Tip's 2BX, 5BX, and 7B's. If you can make models close to these dimensions I'll most likely switch back to promark.

As for Evans, I prefer Remo, but I do love Evans too. However I have a problem with every coated head I've owned by Evans were super tiny spots chip. I've never head that problem with Remo. Also, the dot on a power center I once purchased went to pieced after only a month of use.

I do envy how you are willing to talk about the other companies too without trying to push your own. It's quite nice.
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Hi Rick,

I'm a big fan of Pro-Mark and have been using the 707s for many years, a great stick! I've also recently been using 5A Pro-Round sticks, very nice! When I first started drumming 20+ years ago, like many folks, I started with Remo, but about 10 years ago I tried Evans and have never looked back. Great heads! I just picked up 10" and 14" Onyx heads for my toms and can't wait to try them out. I am also interested in trying the EC2 coated heads. It's really cool that you come onto the boards to get real feedback from us drummers. Keep up the great work and thanks!

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Thanks for coated G1s. I have coated EC2s on a few kits for FOH guys sake (even though they have nice ring out), but nothing will beat my coated G1s.
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Another vote for Melenex. I would love to see a complete line of white film drumheads, from G1's to everything else. White film is warm, but not over the top like the black film.

Since I have your ear, and you have Pro Mark now...

Why don't you be the first company to do away with the archaic way of categorizing sticks. It's kinda dumb really....

2B, 7A, SD4s' Extreme 5B...

It's re-diculous.

How about length x diameter in millimeters? Simple.

Pro Marks seem too forward weighted for me. Would like to see a choice of tapers offered.

This is great having you here to ask for stuff lol. You seem very open minded. We like that.
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Old 08-08-2011, 10:07 AM
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Flippin' 'eck! How hard do you guys hit that you go through sticks that quick?! :-)

I'm finding Pro-Mark really durable at the moment, at least the Hickory 5B.
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Frank, thanks for your support. What model Regal Tip do you use? We are going to be adding a number of new models with new designs over the next several months. I believe there are number of diameters that we need to add to the line.
i would like to see something in pro mark similar to that of the zildjian mike mangini signature stick - the dimensions are: length 16 1/2", diameter 0.585, with a normal teardrop like wood tip. the thing that makes this stick so special is it's made out of birch. the birch makes the stick really heavy (about or maybe heavier than a pro-mark DC9 {which is a marching stick}) and personally i love this feel! i think that this stick might even feel nice with the japan oak, but i've got one similar (bit smaller, the stephan perkins signature) and it's no where near the same weight. I believe it'd be similar to an abe cunningham signature stick, just a tad bit shorter, and a tad bit thinner, but much heavier.
any chance this could happen? im really partial to pro-mark but i just love these sticks so much.
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Why don't you be the first company to do away with the archaic way of categorizing sticks. ........How about length x diameter in millimeters? Simple.

Pro Marks seem too forward weighted for me. .....
Larryace - I have to agree with your statement........

How about wood/length x diameter in millimeters + tip material/tip style

So for your PW747W neil peart stick would be:

O/412x14mm+W/T (O=oak, W=wood tip, T=teardrop shape)

- it would make selecting sticks much easier.
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Old 08-08-2011, 04:04 PM
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This is fantastic, I love it when companies turn out to be run by real people. I do have a question though, what method do you use to put the dry vents in your genera dry heads? They're absolutely my favorite snare head and I haven't found a snare they didn't improve, I'd love to know what goes into creating them.
The holes are drilled into the head.
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Old 08-08-2011, 04:06 PM
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Larryace - I have to agree with your statement........

How about wood/length x diameter in millimeters + tip material/tip style

So for your PW747W neil peart stick would be:

O/412x14mm+W/T (O=oak, W=wood tip, T=teardrop shape)

- it would make selecting sticks much easier.
Believe it or not we are having those discussions. It does make a lot of sense especially when we have no real model standards within the stick industry. Thanks for the suggestion.
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Another vote for Melenex. I would love to see a complete line of white film drumheads, from G1's to everything else. White film is warm, but not over the top like the black film.

Since I have your ear, and you have Pro Mark now...

Why don't you be the first company to do away with the archaic way of categorizing sticks. It's kinda dumb really....

2B, 7A, SD4s' Extreme 5B...

It's re-diculous.

How about length x diameter in millimeters? Simple.

Pro Marks seem too forward weighted for me. Would like to see a choice of tapers offered.

This is great having you here to ask for stuff lol. You seem very open minded. We like that.
As a drummer, I agree with your assessment of some of the Pro-Mark models being to front-heavy. I believe the stick should be doing most of the work. You will start to see models with improved tapers over after the first of the year.
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i would like to see something in pro mark similar to that of the zildjian mike mangini signature stick - the dimensions are: length 16 1/2", diameter 0.585, with a normal teardrop like wood tip. the thing that makes this stick so special is it's made out of birch. the birch makes the stick really heavy (about or maybe heavier than a pro-mark DC9 {which is a marching stick}) and personally i love this feel! i think that this stick might even feel nice with the japan oak, but i've got one similar (bit smaller, the stephan perkins signature) and it's no where near the same weight. I believe it'd be similar to an abe cunningham signature stick, just a tad bit shorter, and a tad bit thinner, but much heavier.
any chance this could happen? im really partial to pro-mark but i just love these sticks so much.
Birch is actually a lighter material than hickory. What gives the Mike's stick it's weight is the lamination of the birch plies. At the moment we don't have any laminated sticks but it might be something to consider. Thanks, Rick
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Old 08-08-2011, 04:25 PM
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Thanks for coated G1s. I have coated EC2s on a few kits for FOH guys sake (even though they have nice ring out), but nothing will beat my coated G1s.
Thanks, I also use G1's on my DW bebop kit and either G2's or EC2's on my Yamaha Absolute Birch kit.
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Hi Rick,

I'm a big fan of Pro-Mark and have been using the 707s for many years, a great stick! I've also recently been using 5A Pro-Round sticks, very nice! When I first started drumming 20+ years ago, like many folks, I started with Remo, but about 10 years ago I tried Evans and have never looked back. Great heads! I just picked up 10" and 14" Onyx heads for my toms and can't wait to try them out. I am also interested in trying the EC2 coated heads. It's really cool that you come onto the boards to get real feedback from us drummers. Keep up the great work and thanks!

Glenn
Thanks for your support of both Pro-Mark and Evans. We're experimenting with a variation of the Onyx head. I'll let you know how that works out. Rick
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As a drummer, I agree with your assessment of some of the Pro-Mark models being to front-heavy. I believe the stick should be doing most of the work. You will start to see models with improved tapers over after the first of the year.
That's why I use the Benny Greb model - it has the perfect taper, in my opinion, creating a perfectly balanced stick with a great fulcrum point.
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I really love Regal Tip's 2BX, 5BX, and 7B's. If you can make models close to these dimensions I'll most likely switch back to promark.

As for Evans, I prefer Remo, but I do love Evans too. However I have a problem with every coated head I've owned by Evans were super tiny spots chip. I've never head that problem with Remo. Also, the dot on a power center I once purchased went to pieced after only a month of use.

I do envy how you are willing to talk about the other companies too without trying to push your own. It's quite nice.
Thanks for your comments. I'll check the diameters of the Regal Tip 2BX, 5BX and 7B to how they compare to our planned models in the future. Re: your problems with the Evans coating, how long ago did that occur? If you would please shoot me an email rick.drumm@daddario.com so we can talk further about the problem you experienced.
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any chance on making a solid dowel-type rock stick with no tip, at approx. 9/16"??? i personally favor the 16" length - Zildjian has one that's shorter and it really doesn't quite 'reach'. Also, theirs isn't oak, and in my opinion, oak is unquestionably the most durable...I would think you'd have an instant market. thanks for coolness.
Maybe, there is a small market for a stick like that but I bet some of the Latin percussion players would like that as well.
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I'm so happy to see that this thread was started. First off I want to say how much I love Evans drum heads and how much I look forward to the improvements to this amazing catalog. I had a horrible experience with Remo a few years ago where I broke a head at my band's practice, bought a new one, and broke it as soon as I got back to practice! I went in and bought an Evans snare head and it never broke on me. Since then I made the complete switch to Evans and have yet to have any problem like that. Now having said that, recently I bought an Evans Resonant drum head. I run it in combination with a 22" Coated EMAD. Is the combination of EMAD reso and batter always so dead? I'm personally looking into buying a different reso head without a port in hopes that the drum will regain the deep sound it had. I guess the port would be great for playing live or recording. Its not a bad product, I just need to look into a different resonant head.

As for Pro-Mark, I recently made the switch back. I used Vic Firth until the only stick I could play of theirs that I could break was the 2B size, and that isn't right. I went to Pro-Mark but at the time I didn't understand the sizing system as opposed to Vic Firth so the sticks I got often broke, and the nylon would always crack. Then I went to Vater. They are hands down the most reliable brand to compare sticks to. I have yet to break a Vater stick in the 5B and 5A sizes. So when I found out Billy Ward switched to Pro-Mark and had his own signature stick I wanted to try it since it had the "bulb" on it. Not only does that bulb make the stick feel great to play, but its just as unbreakable as the Vater sticks that I'm used to. The combination of my technique getting better and these products durability increase has meant for me way less money on sticks, and I'll follow Pro-Mark as long as this pattern continues.
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Old 08-08-2011, 06:22 PM
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Thanks for joining the forum Rick!

Mark me down for another vote for a white film coated head!!

Bring back the UNO58 please (!!!) it was great sounding head.

...and if it's not too much to ask, a non-muffled 26" head (please).
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Thanks for your suggestion. The white film you are referring to is called Melanex. It has some different properties than Mylar and to me tends to feel a bit stiffer. Mylar comes in hazy or clear. Melanex is very white. Coated Emperors were made of two plys of 7 mil thickenss as are the coated G2s. I will talk to our team about testing the Melenex idea.

Thanks, Rick
Really? Hmmm....well, I thought it was the same stuff that coated ambassadors are made of, or smooth white emperors. Is that Melanex? I know that emperors and G2's are made of 7 mil thickness clear film. The coated emperors were 7 mil thick, only white film years ago and sounded better IMO. Remo currently offers vintage emperors which are the white film but 7.5 ml thick. Is this the melanex you're referring to as well? They sound very good, I currently use them on my toms for the reason I mentioned about the coating coming off and looking bad on clear film heads. I see some other drummers giving the thumbs up to coated white film heads. I guess we'll see what happens.
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Really? Hmmm....well, I thought it was the same stuff that coated ambassadors are made of, or smooth white emperors. Is that Melanex? I know that emperors and G2's are made of 7 mil thickness clear film. The coated emperors were 7 mil thick, only white film years ago and sounded better IMO. Remo currently offers vintage emperors which are the white film but 7.5 ml thick. Is this the melanex you're referring to as well? They sound very good, I currently use them on my toms for the reason I mentioned about the coating coming off and looking bad on clear film heads. I see some other drummers giving the thumbs up to coated white film heads. I guess we'll see what happens.
I just checked the Remo website and I apparently stand corrected. Remo apparently changed their material to Mylar and mil thickness on the Emperors from the time that I was there. Anyway, I will talk with our team about your request. Thanks, Rick
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any chance on making a solid dowel-type rock stick with no tip, at approx. 9/16"??? i personally favor the 16" length - Zildjian has one that's shorter and it really doesn't quite 'reach'. Also, theirs isn't oak, and in my opinion, oak is unquestionably the most durable...I would think you'd have an instant market. thanks for coolness.
The Pro Mark Rock Knocker (TXRKW) is a dowel-type stick with similar dimensions (.551" diameter vs. .5625") and 16" length out of hickory.
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Hi Rick,

As someone who has worked (on and off) on the retail side of the drum industry going back to 1988, I have to congratulate you on the superb job of turning Evans around since D'Addario purchased the company.

In my first job (Drum World in San Francisco), Evans was maybe 1% of our drum head inventory. Other than selling hydraulics here and there, it was Remo, Remo, Remo.
10 years later at West LA Music, Evans was significant percentage of drum head sales.

Now, I walk into the average drum shop, and Evans appears to be 50-60% of what is in stock. The boost to quality control and innovation has made a huge impact.

I imagine you will have a similar affect on Promark. While Promark has always been a big name, and I have nothing but respect for Pat Brown, in terms of counter sales, they were always in last place at every place I worked. And it came down to quality control, or lack of. Every box would have more warped sticks than not, and it would just erode interest in the brand from the customer base.

In the short time since D'Addario has taken over, I have already heard through the grapevine that quality is up.
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I'm so happy to see that this thread was started. First off I want to say how much I love Evans drum heads and how much I look forward to the improvements to this amazing catalog. I had a horrible experience with Remo a few years ago where I broke a head at my band's practice, bought a new one, and broke it as soon as I got back to practice! I went in and bought an Evans snare head and it never broke on me. Since then I made the complete switch to Evans and have yet to have any problem like that. Now having said that, recently I bought an Evans Resonant drum head. I run it in combination with a 22" Coated EMAD. Is the combination of EMAD reso and batter always so dead? I'm personally looking into buying a different reso head without a port in hopes that the drum will regain the deep sound it had. I guess the port would be great for playing live or recording. Its not a bad product, I just need to look into a different resonant head.

As for Pro-Mark, I recently made the switch back. I used Vic Firth until the only stick I could play of theirs that I could break was the 2B size, and that isn't right. I went to Pro-Mark but at the time I didn't understand the sizing system as opposed to Vic Firth so the sticks I got often broke, and the nylon would always crack. Then I went to Vater. They are hands down the most reliable brand to compare sticks to. I have yet to break a Vater stick in the 5B and 5A sizes. So when I found out Billy Ward switched to Pro-Mark and had his own signature stick I wanted to try it since it had the "bulb" on it. Not only does that bulb make the stick feel great to play, but its just as unbreakable as the Vater sticks that I'm used to. The combination of my technique getting better and these products durability increase has meant for me way less money on sticks, and I'll follow Pro-Mark as long as this pattern continues.
The coating on the EMAD is going to take out some resonance from the head. Anytime you add mass, in this case coating to the head, your going to restrict some of the vibrations. Also, which Resonant head did you select, EQ1 Resonant, EQ3 Resonant or just plain Resonant. The plain Resonant does not have a port hole or ring so that will provide you with the livest sound. If your looking for a deeper but more resonant sound, I would suggest going with the clear EMAD in either the single or double ply.

I'm glad the Billy Ward stick is working for you. Thanks, Rick
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Old 08-08-2011, 11:33 PM
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Hi Rick,

As someone who has worked (on and off) on the retail side of the drum industry going back to 1988, I have to congratulate you on the superb job of turning Evans around since D'Addario purchased the company.

In my first job (Drum World in San Francisco), Evans was maybe 1% of our drum head inventory. Other than selling hydraulics here and there, it was Remo, Remo, Remo.
10 years later at West LA Music, Evans was significant percentage of drum head sales.

Now, I walk into the average drum shop, and Evans appears to be 50-60% of what is in stock. The boost to quality control and innovation has made a huge impact.

I imagine you will have a similar affect on Promark. While Promark has always been a big name, and I have nothing but respect for Pat Brown, in terms of counter sales, they were always in last place at every place I worked. And it came down to quality control, or lack of. Every box would have more warped sticks than not, and it would just erode interest in the brand from the customer base.

In the short time since D'Addario has taken over, I have already heard through the grapevine that quality is up.
Thanks for your observations and comments. We are working hard to improve the quality of Pro-Mark and have already made a number of significant positive changes but honestly, we haven't scratched the surface of what we will be doing in the next few months. We know the competition is tough but we also know that we can bring better quality and better product selections as we improve. Rick
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I almost always use Evans heads, and I have bought some Pro Mark drumsticks in the last year, although I usually use Vater "seconds" (Pulse). I never found a Pro Mark stick that felt great in my hands. I really like the EC Reverse Dot as a batter head for snares, and EC2 over EC Resonants on toms. The EQ3 is my bass drum batter head. Peace and goodwill.
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Rick, this is a fantastic thread, its always very meaningful to me when people in your position come and communicate directly with their customers! I think that kind of thing has great benefits for both sides.

I just did a short video review the other day on the Evans SB14MHG Hybrid head, I have it on my drumset. Right now, it is my favorite snare batter. I just played it in an unmic'd gig last Saturday; it sounded amazing and cut through everything beautifully! I was complimented on the sound. Even though it is intended for marching, the attack and durability of the head are so phenomenal that I couldn't resist. Of course, I have it on a snare that can handle the tension without warping, its a custom steel snare.
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The coating on the EMAD is going to take out some resonance from the head. Anytime you add mass, in this case coating to the head, your going to restrict some of the vibrations. Also, which Resonant head did you select, EQ1 Resonant, EQ3 Resonant or just plain Resonant. The plain Resonant does not have a port hole or ring so that will provide you with the livest sound. If your looking for a deeper but more resonant sound, I would suggest going with the clear EMAD in either the single or double ply.
The resonant head I have is the EMAD resonant. Can I get any coated resonant bass drum heads without a port?
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G2's over G1's on my toms, EMAD on the kick. Never let me down.
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Great thread.

I'm a D'Addario guy and an Evans guy.
D'Addario strings are the best in the world. Period. [I'm a bass player, too.]
Evans heads sound great, last a long time, and have every desired variety.
+1 and more. Sometimes I look at my gear and amazed by how much of it is D'addario and Co. D'addario strings on Guitar and Bass, Planet Waves cables and accessories, Rico reeds on my Tenor Sax (A++ and many kudos for the quality and consistency improvements on Rico reeds once D'addario took them over), Evans drum heads, and I recently switched over to Pro Mark as well.

Great products, keep up the good work.
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I've been using evans heads for toms/snares for 7+ years. g1,g2, ec1, ec2 are the the 4 heads I mix and match on all my toms. All my 15 or so snare drums have a g1 or an ST batter and a evans reso and I love them.

However I don't like any evans bass drum heads. I always go back to using a Remo PS3 for live use or an Aquarian Superkick2 for recording. I find no evans equivalent to them in sound. I also dislike how the foam rings attach to the emad with the plastic hunk always on the drum ( or atleast the one I had a year ago and quickly changed). Also there is no 28 inch love, seriously gotta use Aquarian or Remo's on that bad boy no matter what as I have never seen an Evans head of that Diameter thats not specifically a "marching head". Minor gripe as thats a non standard size.

As far as pro mark sticks I just have never liked them. I recently picked up 10 pairs of Vater super jazz and 10 pairs of regal tip Jazz. There lengthy, feel quick in my hands and are durable enough for me. Perhaps it's the high mositure content of the vater sticks that makes me pick those first, but between all the stick makers being honest I'd go Vater, Vicfirth/regal tip, then promark. I've tried a few different weights of the Pro-mark Oak sticks and found they cracked just as quick as hickory and just weighed a lot more for no gain on my end. Anyway I hope I don't sound like a jerk, just being honest. I do love evans for most stuff and am curious as to what the new pro-mark stuff will be like. It's also cool to see you post on a forum like this, so thanks.
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I'm very happy to see this thread and the info passed along within it... between EvansSpecialist and now EvansPrez, I feel like I have real input into the products I use. I recently put a brand new set of coated G2s on my kit and they sound like the drums I hear in my dreams. I've used Pro-Mark for some time, I'm very glad to hear you're using the merger as a springboard to product improvement in that respect.

I would like very much to see an expanded line of maple sticks with the same sort of market penetration that Vic Firth has had; when I've looked for a much lighter-weight stick on short notice, the stores carry Vic's SD line, and a few store clerks have not even known Pro-Mark even makes them.

As far as the heads, keep on keeping on! You're setting the industry standard with your innovation and quality... thanks much.
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