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Old 08-05-2011, 02:52 PM
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Hello guys, recently a started to study weckls style, so I started to transcribe his playing. Right now im doing on his solo, album synergy, song high life...so stay tuned, it will come soon

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ok, this is the first part, its about 4 hours of work....PLS comment, discuss, advice, i know there are mistakes - not all ghost notes are in, I only did this by slowing down the song a little bit.....

for example there is one quintuplet on the end of 4th bar continuing over the bar line to the 5th bar, and it is on the HH, but i couldnt write it in the program im using (noteflight)

but there is the basic scelet with accents and all the syncopation...i really appreciate all the advice you can give to me, and I hope it helps

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ok, this is the first part, its about 4 hours of work....PLS comment, discuss, advice, i know there are mistakes - not all ghost notes are in, I only did this by slowing down the song a little bit.....

for example there is one quintuplet on the end of 4th bar continuing over the bar line to the 5th bar, and it is on the HH, but i couldnt write it in the program im using (noteflight)

but there is the basic scelet with accents and all the syncopation...i really appreciate all the advice you can give to me, and I hope it helps

cheers

here is the link

http://www.noteflight.com/scores/vie...cb226cc6329a72
I don't have a copy pf the song yet to compare it to the transcription. But the style of notation is very difficult to read. It seems to all be written in one layer. I'm not familiar with the program you are using. Maybe it does not do layers? I know Finale does - so does Musescore if you are looking for a free program. I can see the work you put into transcribing it and can appreciate it. But you really want it to be readable too. Check out other transcription and you'll see what I mean. They will either be one layer - stems all in the same direction or have two layers, Hands on the top layer, feet on the bottom layer. The notes on each layer will equal the time signature - so the rests are not shared between layers.

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thank you really much for your advice, i try to remake it, and i will post it also with the second part...any other advices are very welcome

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hello, so i have the whole solo written down, its here

http://www.noteflight.com/scores/vie...cb226cc6329a72

i tryed tu use musescore, but i find it much more complicated than the noteflight site im using...

so I hope you enjoy it, any comments are appreciated
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hello, so i have the whole solo written down, its here

http://www.noteflight.com/scores/vie...cb226cc6329a72

i tryed tu use musescore, but i find it much more complicated than the noteflight site im using...

so I hope you enjoy it, any comments are appreciated
If you do not want to use Musescore or buy a program such as Finale or Sibelius, I would really try to see if you can get your program to do layers. You can also see if you can use one layer, all branched off from the hand part. That is not the most common way of notating it, but you will see many parts written in that style. Right now, it is not very readable. It would most likely be better to write it out by hand and scan in into a PDF. Sorry, I know you put a lot of work into it, but the presentation needs to be standardized notation if you are serious about it. I;d like to be able to sight-read it at first glance. As it stands, it requires a bit of decyphering.

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thangz i get it, maybe you could help me with that, cause mostly i;ve seen drum sheet music written like I did...can you send me in privatmsg some example, how do you mean it? than i could maybe understand it better...

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thangz i get it, maybe you could help me with that, cause mostly i;ve seen drum sheet music written like I did...can you send me in privatmsg some example, how do you mean it? than i could maybe understand it better...

thangz once again
When using layers, your top later (stems pointing up ) has to equal the time signature - AND the bottom layer (stems down) has to equal the time signature. They are two separate layers. You can see this in the following example.

http://www.vicfirth.com/education/dr...ssentials1.pdf

Take a look at #4. There are not just notes in the bottom layer, but also rests. It equals four beats - quarter note, quarter rest, quarter note, quarter rest. The top also equals 4/4 - 8 eighth notes.

Your transcription is written in layers, but at first glance, I cannot see where the bass drum should come in - there are no rests in the bottom layer.

The other method is having only one layer, containing both hands and feet. Terry Branham uses this method a lot for the transcriptions on Drummerworld.

http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/s...angrooves.html

Also, since this is a Weckl transcription, I assume there should be some accents. I would add accent markings and dynamics.

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ok, now im confused...when I saw igoes sheet music, i thought AHA, now i understand...but when i saw the second one, i couldnt see the difference between mine and terrys method

about the accents & dynamics - yes, i upgrade that one...
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ok, now im confused...when I saw igoes sheet music, i thought AHA, now i understand...but when i saw the second one, i couldnt see the difference between mine and terrys method

about the accents & dynamics - yes, i upgrade that one...
Terry only used one layer - stems up. His one layer equaled the time signature. You used two layers - stems up and stems down. Your top layer did not equal 12/8 - your bottom layer did not equal 12/8. If you use layers, as in the Igoe example, you need to use rests to allow EACH layer to equal 12/8.

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aaah yes, now i got it, thangz! im gonna take care of it :)
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[quote=radeq;875939]aaah yes, now i got it, thangz! im gonna take care of it :)[/QUOTE

Glad I could help.

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hey there, i remade it, could you please check that out? thank you really much

it has been saved allready, i tryed to make it as much readable as possible

thangz for checking

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