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Old 09-17-2006, 08:17 AM
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I agree with Brad on the Audix D6, which was the first drum microphone I ever purchased. It likes a bit more gain than some other mics, but gives incredible sound once you figure that out. Requires very little EQ, not too picky about positioning, easy to use. I have done some testing with a D112, and it was certainly a decent mic, but I noticed that it picked up more off-axis sound than the Audix and just didn't give as "sweet" a sound to my ear.

I wouldn't be dissapointed with either, though, when it comes down to it. They'll both give professional results.
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Old 09-18-2006, 01:12 AM
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Well said ID,

I forgot to mention the gain thing, since after I also figured it out it became a non-issue. I look at the D6 a little like an old Detroit muscle car. It takes a little more oomph to get it rolling but once it does....look out. And by the way, after all this talk of the D6, I went and looked on Ebay to see what they were going for there nowadays. I found that AAAudio, who I have bought from many times and are excellent sellers, has this insane package deal: http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Audix-D6-Kic...QQcmdZViewItem.

I ended up getting one lol because this deal is very hard to beat with the extras and free shipping. I will try the Marshall on my hi-hats -- I have read some really great reviews on this mic. And who doesn't need a couple extra mic cables, especially good ones such as Whirlwind? As for the extra D6 I now (soon) own, I plan to experiment with it as a beater-side kick mic. I heard a drummer when I was in San Antonio this summer that was using a SM57 on the beater side and a D6 on the resonant side on a Yamaha Maple Customs 22X16, and I was floored by the sound. It seems that if you can capture the click sound on the beater side, you can forget about getting that on the res side and go for a bigger, thicker sound. When you add the two together on the board and get the right mix going.....wow.

If it is not allowed to post Ebay links here, just delete it. I am a moderator at another forum and I know how that stuff goes.

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Old 09-18-2006, 06:49 AM
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Brad, try that extra D6 on your floor tom. Sounds incredible...
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Old 09-18-2006, 06:24 PM
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Yeah, audix is the best. I use the D6 on the floor tom and kick, and my bass player uses it on his cab, sounds AMAZING!!
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Old 09-22-2006, 01:10 AM
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Has anyone tried the audix adx 90 drum mikes?
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Old 09-29-2006, 04:44 AM
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Hi Guys,

I need to buy drum mics (5 piece + 3 cymbals). We play in small to medium size venues. Any cost effective suggestions? Please help.
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Old 09-30-2006, 10:42 AM
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I need to buy drum mics (5 piece + 3 cymbals). We play in small to medium size venues. Any cost effective suggestions? Please help.
Apex drum mike package. Very cost effective and very decent sound. Kik mike is good.
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Old 10-07-2006, 06:35 AM
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(already posted this in the recording thread a while ago, doesnt seem anybody goes there any more)

does anybody have any experience with behringer c-2 mics? i know behringer is regarded a quality company, but these mics seem ridiculously cheap. i know the get-what-you-pay-for adage (had a feeling somebody was gonna quote that), but i'm curious about any hands on experience. the reviews i've seen were good, but i'm still suspicious. hopeful though, cheap + quality = good for me
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Old 10-07-2006, 11:12 AM
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Behringer are an interesting one to say the least. Basically they take another companies' product and copy it exactly at a cheaper price. There is no research and development department as such and that's partly why they can afford to sell so low. Quality is... variable. From terrible to really top notch and there are risks with buying Behringer. That said, if you get a good set of mics, then you can have something really good for next to nothing. I'm not sure on the C-2 mics specifically but I vaguely recall some positive feedback from some users.

Just be careful when dealing with Behringer.
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Old 10-07-2006, 06:45 PM
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I use a couple of Behringer mics for recording, ECM 8000. They're originally meant for sonic measurement, but they make excellent low-cost phantom powered condenser recording mics. I have suspended a boom mic mount from the ceiling and have these two attached, so I can point it around the room as needed. They make excellent recordings.

I have these mics connected to a Behringer Eurorack MX-602A, one of their mini mixer boards. It is extremely low noise and I love the combination. I have it running into a dual-deck CD recorder and it use it for recording band practices.

I've heard Behringer is varaible quality, however. But I can say that for the products I have, I have been extremely satisfied.

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Old 10-21-2006, 07:41 AM
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thanks guys. anybody else?
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Old 10-21-2006, 12:57 PM
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I bought a pair recently and they are great!

Used them as overheads on a recording session and the sound quality was very good indeed. Obviously they do not stand up to professional mics but they are good for home recording.

We also use them when we rehearse, just set them up as 2 rooms mics and we get a great sound.
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Old 10-22-2006, 03:34 AM
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well thats reassuring. i also plan to use them as overheads
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Old 10-22-2006, 04:56 AM
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does anybody have any experience with behringer c-2 mics? i know behringer is regarded a quality company, but these mics seem ridiculously cheap. i know the get-what-you-pay-for adage (had a feeling somebody was gonna quote that), but i'm curious about any hands on experience. the reviews i've seen were good, but i'm still suspicious. hopeful though, cheap + quality = good for me
I bought these and I really like them, I use them overhead mainly for my cymbals they really bring out the sound.
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Old 10-22-2006, 05:01 AM
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Quality control and reliablity are two things Behringer falls short on. I work for a dealer, and shouldn't really say anything bad about it, but some of thier stuff is "ok" and other stuff is just junk...........buyer beware!!!
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Old 10-31-2006, 12:21 AM
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I am wanting to know what mics you use the manufacturer and the mic for both live and recodring. THANKS
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Old 10-31-2006, 12:24 AM
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Well something a little more specific would be appreciated... but here's what I like the sound of when recording drums.

Overheads: High Quality Small Diaphragm Condensers. Eg. AKG C1000.
Snare: Medium Diaphragm Dynamic Eg. Shure SM57. (Batter and sometimes Resonant).
Bass: Large Diaphragm Dynamic Eg. Audix D6.

Some people like to microphone up the individual toms, I personally prefer to let the overheads do most of the work as far as that's concerned, I've had annoying experiences with individual tom miking before that really got on my nerves.
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Old 10-31-2006, 05:33 PM
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Audix D6 on the bass drum, live and recorded, although a large condenser is sometimes placed in front of the bass drum resonant head as well when recording, with the D6 inside or facing the batter head from the outside.

Live I like to use Sennheiser e604s on toms and snare - they sound good and are very easy to position.

Recording - at home I use various combinations of the above mics, but I'm not going for pro results, really. Not yet, anyway.

In a studio, I defer to the engineer. Mostly I've seen Shure SM57s on the snare top/bottom, Sennheiser 421s (I believe) on toms, and Shure Sm81s for overheads.

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Old 11-01-2006, 07:18 AM
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All of my drums, with the exception of the snare drum are MayEA mounted.

Bass Drum - D112
Small toms (less than a 14") - SM57
Big Toms - D112
Snare drums SM57

The soundmen seem to really dig this combo although the D112 in the bigger toms are a hotter signal than the SM57s. I dig this combo because it is easier to set up and tear down (less work) and there are no mics in the way of my playing.


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Old 11-07-2006, 12:51 PM
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I have been asked by my band to purchase some drum microphones. Who can recommend any good ones????
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Old 11-07-2006, 12:53 PM
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My band members have asked me to buy some drum microphones. I will need these at live gigs and for recording. Can anyone recommend any good ones???? Email - ryanlikealion@googlemail.com
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Old 11-07-2006, 01:15 PM
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Welcome to drummerworld! Make sure you search, using the button at the top of the screen, before u post. There are numerous threads on this. Thanks! : )
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Old 11-07-2006, 06:33 PM
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A lot depends on your use and your budget. Will this be for gigs?

A good, dependable generic mic for your snare, toms, and cymbals is a Sure SM-57. They usually run less than $100 US Dollars a piece and you can find them just about anywhere. A good BD mic is a AKG 112. I had one of those for several years and it did a really good job. Those run about $200 or a little more.

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Old 11-08-2006, 10:43 PM
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Try Audio Technica products !

I love their mikes for catching drums, and they are not very expensive !
-ATM 25 on bass drum
-ATM 23he on snare
-AT 4041 on HH
-Pro 25 on toms (very cheap and a big low end sound !)

Here's a sample of my drumset recorded with these mikes + SM57 (snare bottom), subkick (DIY with a
NS10 woofer !) and Rhode's NT5's as overheads !
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Old 11-09-2006, 08:40 AM
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What does everyone use in leiu of the $329 SM81?

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Old 11-10-2006, 05:39 AM
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A local fellow has been using the Audix F15 (I believe) in his home studio, and it seems to produce decent results. It does not seem to capture the low end that the SM81 is capable of, at least the way he was set up. He relied on close-micing the toms for depth, anyway. They reproduced cymbals nicely, especially for a mic that costs $100 or so.

The last project I worked on (actually I have two more songs to record) used the Groove Tube GT55 as overheads. This recording called for brushes with a lot of cymbal work and texture (for a singer/songwriter and his acoustic guitar) and they worked quite well. Beautiful rich sound with great detail. I looked them up and they cost about $500 a piece. Nice overheads, though!
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Old 11-10-2006, 06:08 AM
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A local fellow has been using the Audix F15 (I believe) in his home studio, and it seems to produce decent results. It does not seem to capture the low end that the SM81 is capable of, at least the way he was set up. He relied on close-micing the toms for depth, anyway. They reproduced cymbals nicely, especially for a mic that costs $100 or so.

The last project I worked on (actually I have two more songs to record) used the Groove Tube GT55 as overheads. This recording called for brushes with a lot of cymbal work and texture (for a singer/songwriter and his acoustic guitar) and they worked quite well. Beautiful rich sound with great detail. I looked them up and they cost about $500 a piece. Nice overheads, though!
I use the F15 as well, and while im sure that the SM81 will produce better results, the F15 does a good job -- especially the highs. I use it in my last recording session on my hats, and it did fantastic. To hear it, go to http://www.myspace.com/jesusoragunlv
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Old 11-10-2006, 07:24 AM
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Don't laugh, but I once saw that Radio Shack had a knock-off of the SM81 in their Realistic line. I actually used this one in a country band! Hey, why is everyone running to the car?!

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Old 11-10-2006, 08:20 PM
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Don't laugh, but I once saw that Radio Shack had a knock-off of the SM81 in their Realistic line. I actually used this one in a country band! Hey, why is everyone running to the car?!

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They have geat adaptors, however, like stuff to link XLR to banana plugs and RCA. Otherwise, the stuff is awful and overpriced.

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Old 11-10-2006, 09:24 PM
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I ONLY use AUDIX mics on my drums. They sound amazing!!!!!! D6 on kick, i5 on snares, D2 on rack toms, D4 on 14" floor tom and another D6 on 16" floor tom, SCX condensers on high-hat and overheads. PERFECT!!!!!!!!
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Old 11-13-2006, 09:40 PM
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Ahoy hoy.

Just a quick question; does anyone have any experience with CAD microphones, specifically their Kick mic. Seems pretty good range at 20HZ - 20,000HZ, and seems like a pretty good entry level mic. Just wondering how it would compare with say a D112 or a D6 (my two main options I think).

Also, any thoughts or opinions on the XL1200 would be pretty handy as well. My many thanks to y'all in advance.
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Old 11-13-2006, 10:32 PM
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Well, well gentlemen! This is a most interesting topic.

You see, I bought this great Yamaha drum kit. I just liked the look and the size of it. It just fitted into my car.

BUT: It had a 18" bassdrum... and I play rock music. So I kind of needed a little low end and volume in my bassdrum... and some room just kills the bassdrum sound!!!

SO: I installed a Shure Beta 52 inside with the MAY Internal Miking Systems (Just like Simon Phillips and Steve Smith). So I just plug the wire in my bassdrum... from the OUTSIDE. And all of a sudden, I have the greatest bassdrum sound EVER... from a 18" bassdrum. I recomend it to every drummer playing small party gigs!!!

In fact I got so thrilled about the whole miking thing, that I bought my self a Shure VP88 to pick up the rest og the kit (like when Steve Smith is small gigging)... And boy does it KICK some serious ASS!!!

So, now I never have to wory about bad acousticks.. And it is such a relief!!!

I'm planning to get a cheap Shure SM57 to pick up the snare, though I'm told it's not neccesary... But I'd like the thought of being able to add some reverb to just the snare some day!!!


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Old 11-14-2006, 05:34 PM
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Well, well gentlemen! This is a most interesting topic.

You see, I bought this great Yamaha drum kit. I just liked the look and the size of it. It just fitted into my car.

BUT: It had a 18" bassdrum... and I play rock music. So I kind of needed a little low end and volume in my bassdrum... and some room just kills the bassdrum sound!!!

SO: I installed a Shure Beta 52 inside with the MAY Internal Miking Systems (Just like Simon Phillips and Steve Smith). So I just plug the wire in my bassdrum... from the OUTSIDE. And all of a sudden, I have the greatest bassdrum sound EVER... from a 18" bassdrum. I recomend it to every drummer playing small party gigs!!!
Where did you get the May mount? My leads keep falling through...
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Old 11-14-2006, 08:32 PM
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Where did you get the May mount? My leads keep falling through...
I got it in my local drumstore (I live in Denmark). There's a link to MAY on DW's homepage. Look under "hardware".

Here it is: http://www.dwdrums.com/may/

As i recall it, I bought the Shure Beta 52 as a MAY product, because it was kind of preparede to the MAY system. And in another box, I bought some MAY hardware and bolts. So, when you mount it, the mounting system goes through the bassdrums vent-hole... with NO drilling and damage to your drum at all.

It's easy, and I highly recomend it to everyone doing small gigs without an external soundengineer to take care of your drumssound....
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Dragging up an old thread, but i wanted to put my list up =)

Kick: AKG D112
Snare: Shure SM57 / Audix i5
HiHat: AKG C414B-XL II
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Has anybody used the studiospares (england) own mic's? i have
2 bassdrum mic's & 4 instrument mic's i use for toms. They seem good for 30 or so a piece. Just wondering how different they are to more expensive mic's?
I also have 3 staggs that pretty much look the same as the studiospares mic's.
I also have 2 t.bone large condenser mic's that you can get from a german site for 20 each!!! I bought them for 40 years ago & i use them for overheads & vocals. Again seem quiet good for the money.
I also have a shure sm57 but we all know about these good old fashion mic's :) straight on the snare it goes...
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I want to point out if you are recording digital.. An A/D Converter REALLY effects the sound quality.. even if you are using Neve preamps and Telefunken mics.. if you got Cheap digi 001 converters.. or m audio.. ect..ect.. all that Expensive stuff cant really do what it should be able to. Converters are a Big Deal!!!
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(already posted this in the recording thread a while ago, doesnt seem anybody goes there any more)

does anybody have any experience with behringer c-2 mics? i know behringer is regarded a quality company, but these mics seem ridiculously cheap. i know the get-what-you-pay-for adage (had a feeling somebody was gonna quote that), but i'm curious about any hands on experience. the reviews i've seen were good, but i'm still suspicious. hopeful though, cheap + quality = good for me
http://www.thomann.de/ie/behringer_c2_stereoset.htm

I agree, this is slap-the-the-face cheap. Surely someone is going to hell for selling mics so cheap!!
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I just got a 7-piece set of CAD drum mics for Christmas. It came with separate mics for the snare, kick, 3 toms and 2 condensors. I have a 6-piece Premier set with two mounted toms and two floor toms. I have two crashes (one on each side), a china, and a splash, in addition to the hats and ride.

My dad is a bass player and doesn't really know that much about mic placement. He has an M-Audio interface has four mic inputs for recording me in GarageBand. What is the best placement for the mics I have, using 4 mics? Thanks in advance!
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I just got a 7-piece set of CAD drum mics for Christmas. It came with separate mics for the snare, kick, 3 toms and 2 condensors. I have a 6-piece Premier set with two mounted toms and two floor toms. I have two crashes (one on each side), a china, and a splash, in addition to the hats and ride.

My dad is a bass player and doesn't really know that much about mic placement. He has an M-Audio interface has four mic inputs for recording me in GarageBand. What is the best placement for the mics I have, using 4 mics? Thanks in advance!
1. Bass drum
2. Snare
3. Overhead condensor
4. Overhead condensor

I'd put the condensors about 2' higher than your cymbals on boom mic stands and point one down at the hats and the other (on the other side of your kit) down at the floor toms/ride cymbal.

Start from there and play with placement. Good luck!
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