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Old 03-31-2011, 10:28 PM
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I've been drumming for a number of years now but recently I've started to have really bad back pains because of standing up for 8 hours a day in work in hard shoes and just generally having bad posture. My throne is a pretty basic one that I got with my starter kit many moons ago... and my floor is carpeted. Recently I can only play for 30 minutes or so at a time before my back (lower back especailly) feels like its going to explode and leave me as just a head with limbs.

I think the problem might be that my floor is so soft that my weight isn't rooted... or also just the generally bad quality of the throne, the top doesn't tighten all the way and neither do the legs because of rust (it spent a lot of time in my friends shed)

Is there anything I can do aside from splashing out on a new seat? (which I will most certainly be doing very soon anyway)

Thanks!
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Old 03-31-2011, 10:41 PM
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Get a better seat. It's a great investment. I had some back discomfort when playing longer gigs on a regular PDP throne. I moved up to a Roc'n'soc and the problems are gone.
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Old 03-31-2011, 10:45 PM
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Adjust the height up and down and find a comfortable position that will let you play longer. Sit up straight and if possible put a back on the throne.
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Old 04-01-2011, 05:31 AM
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Cheap seats are just that.

Most cheap seats are designed for younger players, not full grown adults.

By a real seat, and your back will be much happier.
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Old 04-01-2011, 05:47 AM
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I ask drummers this question all the time: what's the heaviest part of the kit? And answer, "You are!". You must be supported better than that 20" thin crash on the giraffe-like boom stand you just spent $175 for. And oddly enough, a good throne costs a little less!

Maybe get a throne with a backrest option. But even after that, I'd visit a chiropractor to help correct anything that's damaged.
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Old 04-01-2011, 05:34 PM
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Yes, get a good throne with a backrest. I recently did, and it is very helpful. Peace and goodwill.
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Old 04-01-2011, 06:38 PM
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Couldn't agree more with the posters about spending the dough for a good quality throne. I also use the backrest option but here's a lttle tip. I don't actually "rest" or lean back on the backrest. I just make sure that I keep my back in contact with it. The reason is to assure that I keep good posture. If you have severe back pain I'd also recommend you check in with a chiropractor and/or physical therapist. They can fix what's wrong and give you good advice on how to avoid future problems. I've been down this road before and can tell you that good posture is essential. You may also need to adjust the way your drums are set up to give yourself a fighting chance.
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Old 04-08-2011, 07:31 PM
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I ask drummers this question all the time: what's the heaviest part of the kit? And answer, "You are!". You must be supported better than that 20" thin crash on the giraffe-like boom stand you just spent $175 for. And oddly enough, a good throne costs a little less!

Maybe get a throne with a backrest option. But even after that, I'd visit a chiropractor to help correct anything that's damaged.
Here here, I can't believe more people don't realise that! I splashed out 175 (which is about $176) for a big chunky seat with backrest and its actually like playing on a cloud as opposed to an iron maiden (or something very uncomfortable anyway)
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Old 09-13-2011, 10:40 PM
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I was having the same problem and like others bought a new Roc-N-Soc with a backrest. The Roc-N-Soc uses high density foam so it is much more supportive than others I tried that had thick, soft foam that just squished down to nothing in minutes. I also agree with the advice that the backrest is really a tool for improved posture as I don't put a lot of pressure on it either. This definitely improved my aching back while drumming. You also ought to consider better shoes at work. I have found Redwing shoes are wonderful for people who work on their feet all day long. Good luck!
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Hi

I've been drumming for a number of years now but recently I've started to have really bad back pains because of standing up for 8 hours a day in work in hard shoes and just generally having bad posture. My throne is a pretty basic one that I got with my starter kit many moons ago... and my floor is carpeted. Recently I can only play for 30 minutes or so at a time before my back (lower back especailly) feels like its going to explode and leave me as just a head with limbs.

I think the problem might be that my floor is so soft that my weight isn't rooted... or also just the generally bad quality of the throne, the top doesn't tighten all the way and neither do the legs because of rust (it spent a lot of time in my friends shed)

Is there anything I can do aside from splashing out on a new seat? (which I will most certainly be doing very soon anyway)

Thanks!

I would question your seating position. With your back straight, lift both feet off your pedals, if you fall forward your abs are weak and/or you're sitting too high.

If you must sit that high, increase your ab strength, but doing so won't ultimately help your playing come-off as 'relaxed' in either sound, or visually.

You'll struggle with a high seating position and your body will try and correct with poor posture and/or tension in your midsection.


To find 'level' on your stool, sit with both feet on your pedals in their bottom positions (HH closed, beater on head), place a level on your thigh, an 8" level works best, about 1/3 out from you hip. Since the foam in stool tops compress, check level after a short bit of playing.

Adjust stool height till level as a reference point. You'll notice lower you go with the stool, the more your center of gravity moves to you lower back, which frees up arm/upper body movement independent of leg movement, meaning you can do leg movements and not have to counter balance with your arms and vice versa.

Slightly below level seems to assist a Moeller effect in relation to knee, ankle, foot. Footboard angle and stool to bass drum distance are fine tuning factors, snare/tom positioning is found automatically.



The 'best thing' you can do for any sitting position problems is strengthen your core.
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Old 09-17-2011, 11:21 AM
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Definitely get a good throne. I'm using the Tama first chair with adjustable lumbar support, it's soooo much more comfortable than the cheap knockoff I used before that.
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Old 09-17-2011, 11:35 AM
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What are some good midpriced thrones i should get? my old one is falling apart
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Old 09-17-2011, 04:23 PM
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The height of your stool as mentioned is probably the cause of this- I know i have had similar pains in the past due to bad posture

A good rule of thumb is to keep your legs at right angles in the heel up position. I.e. top of your leg should be parallel to the ground and your lower leg should be at a right angle to either your top leg or the floor :)
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Old 09-17-2011, 04:42 PM
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Default Re: Drum Thrones And Severe Back Problems

First first is a few months back but one solution to the carpet issue would be to put the throne on a thin square of MDF or plywood.

I got a backrest for my Tama Throne recently, It's great for practicing and long gigs!
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