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Old 03-03-2011, 06:06 AM
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Default Ludwig Classic Maple in Green Sparkle/Bonham Kit!

Here is my (big) baby. Ludwig Classic Maple in Green Sparkle, John Bonham-esque kit. 14x26, 10x14, 16x16, 16x18, (6.5x14 BB snare)
First, here's how it looked when I got it...
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And finally, pictured with my late 70's Black Beauty, and some cymbals and hardware (and of course ching ring!)...
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I realize some people may be entirely offended that I don't have 2002's hanging with my kit, or a Speed King pedal... but this is where I'm at right now. Maybe down the road that might be an option, but what I've got works just fine.
Now, pics aside... THIS KIT SOUNDS UNREAL!! I know this isn't 100% accurate to JB's original studio kit (and I'm fine with that), but in person or recorded is pretty spot on. And to me, that's what really counts anyway.
Thanks for looking!
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Old 03-03-2011, 06:19 AM
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Default Re: Ludwig Classic Maple in Green Sparkle/Bonham Kit!

Very nice!! I just ordered a Classic Maple 26/14/16 yesterday!
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Old 03-03-2011, 06:25 AM
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THIS KIT SOUNDS UNREAL!!
I'll just bet it does. It LOOKS unreal too mate. I can certainly live with the "inaccuracies" if you can. :-)

Very envious.......enjoy it.
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Old 03-03-2011, 06:41 AM
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Looks great,sir. How's that crash ride working out for you?
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Old 03-03-2011, 06:55 AM
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Wow that looks awesome... Want to really know how it sounds!
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Old 03-03-2011, 06:57 AM
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Good God it's 1969 all over again! Love how you changed out the spurs to the curved ones - an even bigger nod to the time would've been if you had found the thinner curved spurs. And that rail mount - perfection!

What you need is a Speed King pedal that squeaks!

But you gotta lose those felt strips! That drum needs to be able to reproduce whole notes!
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Old 03-03-2011, 07:16 AM
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Default Re: Ludwig Classic Maple in Green Sparkle/Bonham Kit!

Totally cool! Glad you like your classic maples - I'm loving mine!
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Old 03-04-2011, 05:53 PM
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Very nice!! I just ordered a Classic Maple 26/14/16 yesterday!
Nice, that will definitely get you by! I use the 18 the least... the whole Buddy Rich/second floor tom story comes to mind...

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I'll just bet it does. It LOOKS unreal too mate. I can certainly live with the "inaccuracies" if you can. :-)
Thanks, I appreciate the pardon haha. If you're ever in the states, you're welcome to stop by and play 'em.

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Looks great,sir. How's that crash ride working out for you?
Great, I love it. It's a 22" so it almost fills the shoes of a 24". Great definition and warm wash. I use it for jazz and funk stuff too.

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Wow that looks awesome... Want to really know how it sounds!
I'm going to try to record it soon. It's so much louder than my DW that I've got to figure out a different way of micing it... Might just room mic it and go with that.

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What you need is a Speed King pedal that squeaks!

But you gotta lose those felt strips! That drum needs to be able to reproduce whole notes!
I'm seriously considering a "Squeek King", even before thinking about Giant Beats or 2002's.
And there's no way I can lose the felt strips; it's all that's holding this kit back from complete self-destruction haha.
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Old 03-04-2011, 08:46 PM
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Default Re: Ludwig Classic Maple in Green Sparkle/Bonham Kit!

Fantastic.
Hope it gives you years of fun!

I love my 26's, and I can't see any reason to use anything smaller for the music I play/wish to be involved in. It sounds great at every dynamic for me.
Other than being a bit heavier to move than a small bass drum, the pluses out weigh everything else to me.

10x14 is just a "that's it" sounding drum too, and you can't beat a BB.


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Old 03-04-2011, 11:50 PM
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I realize some people may be entirely offended that I don't have 2002's hanging with my kit, or a Speed King pedal... but this is where I'm at right now. Maybe down the road that might be an option, but what I've got works just fine.
What !!! ... no Rogers Swivo-Matic hi-hat stand .... for the love of Pete ....
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And to me, that's what really counts anyway.
Perfect ....
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Old 03-05-2011, 04:38 PM
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That is one lovely, lovely kit.
We need some sound samples m' boy!
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Old 03-06-2011, 12:18 AM
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Awesome kit man, I have the 1970 3 ply shells in same sizes and finish and it just rocks... love it for what it is. Have fun!
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Old 03-06-2011, 12:36 AM
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Awesome kit man, I have the 1970 3 ply shells in same sizes and finish and it just rocks... love it for what it is. Have fun!
Thanks man. I actually got the idea and push to "upgrade" mine to look more vintage after seeing your project thread. Aside from obviously John Bonham's kit, your kit gave me the inspiration to do with mine what I did.
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Old 03-06-2011, 06:54 PM
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Thanks man. I actually got the idea and push to "upgrade" mine to look more vintage after seeing your project thread. Aside from obviously John Bonham's kit, your kit gave me the inspiration to do with mine what I did.
Very cool my brother. You did an awesome job, your kit looks great. It's cool to sit behind that bad boy and light it up to hear the kind of sounds Bonham was hearing huh? It's a different animal for sure, it's not really appropriate for some of today's rock, but it has a unique, powerful sound that I love and I play it as much as I can. Enjoy your kit brother, it's really sweet!
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Old 04-20-2011, 04:09 PM
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Gorgeous kit indeed, dude, congrats!
I've got a similar (not vintage) kit, you can see it in this post :

http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/s...ghlight=ludwig

have fun with the tuning, cdrums21's tuning is a great starting point :)

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Old 04-21-2011, 08:54 AM
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Gorgeous kit indeed, dude, congrats!
I've got a similar (not vintage) kit, you can see it in this post :

http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/s...ghlight=ludwig

have fun with the tuning, cdrums21's tuning is a great starting point :)

Cheers from sunny italian coast.
Thanks man, it's ironic that this post was bumped, because I was planning on posting new pics soon... Slapped on some Blue/Olive badges AND got an actual 70's Ludwig rail on ebay for $20.
Also, I've seen your kit before and love it, not too many silver sparkles around...
And I'm using cdrums21's same reference for tuning: the Jeff Ocheltree DVD. Great stuff.
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Old 04-21-2011, 10:35 AM
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Those are some great lookin kits man, this coming from a "Fusion" sizer.

I'm starting to look at alot of "Rock" setups lately though. ;)
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Old 04-21-2011, 08:43 PM
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Let me recommend to NOT change the badges, what's the point?
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Great looking kit. Since you don't need the DW kit you can ship it to me. Just pay the shipping and I will free up the space in your drum room. It's a win-win really.
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Thanks man, it's ironic that this post was bumped, because I was planning on posting new pics soon... Slapped on some Blue/Olive badges AND got an actual 70's Ludwig rail on ebay for $20.
Also, I've seen your kit before and love it, not too many silver sparkles around...
And I'm using cdrums21's same reference for tuning: the Jeff Ocheltree DVD. Great stuff.
Hey Strangefruit, thanks for the vote of confidence. I basically tune my drums this way anyway (before I ever heard of Jeff Ocheltree), with a certain methodology I have described in the tuning thread. However, I did reference the Ocheltree video to make sure about the head selection, bass drum muffling, etc. I also posted some interesting info on the tuning in the Bonham drummer thread, as well as in the general discussion section under "Bonham kit tuning.... intersting info!" Check it out if your interest is piqued.
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Old 04-26-2011, 02:27 AM
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This is a beautiful kit! You have to love huge Luddies.

I actually have a similar kit in Champagne Sparkle, and I was wondering how you did the conversion to the sliding spurs. Lots of drilling? Any reusable holes from the originals? I'd really like to do something similar and get rid of the current, modern spurs. Thanks, and great kit!
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Old 04-26-2011, 04:33 AM
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Sweet kit! She's a looker...
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Old 04-26-2011, 09:22 AM
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Here are a couple shots with the new (old) rail consolette and badge replacements:
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The rail was relatively clean for being 40 years old. All I did was polish it up, replace the bolts with new shiney bolts, and slide my Maxwell top onto it. Which I gotta say, the Steve Maxwell consolette top is nearly identical to the old Ludwig style, it's just the rail that's more of a Gretsch/Slingerland type. The badges came from "detroitdrumexchange" on ebay. Great guy to deal with, quality stuff, and really worked with me when I at first had requested the wrong grommet size. Who knew this 7-ply kit needed 3-ply grommets rather than a 6-ply...? At least now I know, and that partly explains why it sounds so "Bonham-esque".
For a lot of the drilling and things I've done on this kit, I will take them to my dad's shop at his house (a more accurate description may be "a tool emporium amassed over the course of 60+ years!). He would ask me why I'm using older parts/styles so much with this, and the only explanation I could give him was if you get a classic car, you want the parts to look original. I guess if you're not "into it", it would be a little difficult to understand... I hope you guys understand, Haha!
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Let me recommend to NOT change the badges, what's the point?
The only point is that I'm trying to replicate that 70's kit as close as I practically can. For example, I'm not going to change my mini-classic lugs to large classic lugs, but as far as badges go, I'm fine with it. I'm still keeping the old badges for serial number/reference's sake. This isn't a kit I'm going to sell, and aside from playing it, I sort of look at it as a fun project too.

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This is a beautiful kit! You have to love huge Luddies.

I actually have a similar kit in Champagne Sparkle, and I was wondering how you did the conversion to the sliding spurs. Lots of drilling? Any reusable holes from the originals? I'd really like to do something similar and get rid of the current, modern spurs. Thanks, and great kit!
Thank you. If you have the means, go for it! Unfortunately, for the correct placement of the Curved spurs, they won't be compatible with the Elite spurs. Elite spurs are a 4 hole, Curved spurs are 2 (with a bigger hole in the middle). I think I used a 5/8" bit for where the spur goes into the shell. All other holes will be the standard 3/8" I believe.
Now, the real trick is how to hide the old holes. So, aside from re-wrapping the entire drum, I did the next best thing: Fill the holes and "patch" the wrap. That is, where the Curved spur brackets go on each side of the drum, I cut out that area of wrap with a utility knife to make peices to cover the holes and blend with the wrap. Before I get any more into that, you'll want to fill the holes with a wood filler (specifically in a tube). Use painter's tape on the outside of the shell to ensure a flat surface, then squeeze the filler into each hole, making sure it's flush with the tape on the outside.
After that cured, I took a green Sharpie marker and colored the filler just in case any showed through. Now, back to the wrap, I found a 3/8" old school leather hole punch (the kind you hammer) at Ace and punched out the wrap (which btw was already off the shell!). Finally, I super-glued these over the top of the old drill holes. You might want to take a razor and cut whatever edges of the wrap were lifted up where Ludwig originally drilled, (hope that makes sense), so that the "wrap patches" fit snug against the shell. And btw, I think I got my Curved spurs from drumsonsale.com... $60/pair.
I sincerely hope that helps you out; message me if you need any further help. It was a bit of a gamble, and I wasn't entirely sure how it would turn out, but I'm very happy with the results. Here are a few pics that show the aftermath. As you can see, they are only visible from certain angles, but looking dead-on, they practically disappear! And I seriously doubt anyone would ever notice unless I pointed them out. Good luck.
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Old 04-26-2011, 11:43 AM
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Thanks for taking the time to explain that, I appreciate it!

It's kind of funny on my set... I bought it used, and it's a little beat up. Because of the 26" kick, someone already moved the spurs lower. So I have two holes on each side of my kick drum filled with some random bolts. I haven't done anything about it yet because I haven't had time or money to fix everything up, but even though they are such a drastic color change from the wrap, no one notices anyway. I'll definitely have to look into your method here though!
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Old 04-26-2011, 01:57 PM
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Sensational! What a wonderful kit. I especially love the rail mount and kick mounted cymbal stand.

Enjoy. :)
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I know this is a old thread but here are my Bonham tribute's. Long live Bonzo!

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