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Old 02-15-2011, 10:18 PM
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Custom drum rack that is...

I just recently decided to put together a custom rack for my drums which would be an expression of me and be a little unique, as well as practical. I've always gone back and forth between racks and stands. Which one is better I think it depends on your particular kit and situation. This is NOT a thread to debate between racks versus stands. I'm just looking for people who decided to go ahead and customize their rack setup. I, like many, started with the usual 3-sided Gibraltar (and slight variations of such) before I happened upon some custom racks that Gibraltar designed for various drummers. Then I thought... that makes sense, especially since it's so easy to work with the rack tube with a pipe cutter. :)

A little about my design... I wanted something that didn't have the cross bar over the bass drum. I always felt like that bar got in the way of the looks of the drums. So having the drums more visible overall was a desire. Also, I wanted less clutter with the cymbal mounts and multi-clamps. I ended up using rack tube boom attachments on the tops of all the rack tubes which allowed me to insert cymbal boom arms (or tom mounts) right into the tops of the rack tubes. The only 2 cymbal booms that use rack clamps are the ones hanging off the tops of curved bars. I also put together a single-legged snare stand that attaches to the vertical tube that the rack toms are mounted to. I used memory locks on everything, and it's a 2-sided rack system, so it's actually pretty easy to tear down and transport. Keep in mind, this is a work in progress since I tried to mostly pieces that I already owned. I gotta say, it was a lot of fun putting it together!

So this is what it looks like... excuse the picture quality, I took them with my cell phone. You can get the idea though.

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Old 02-15-2011, 10:30 PM
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I'm not sure if I should feel robbed, or relieved. I guess it really depends on what drummers you're asking.

Really like the split, creates a much more open feeling (don't like cages). How did you secure the curved bars? Do they shift? I don't see a counter balance on the bottom so I assume you're cranking that wing pretty tight.
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Old 02-15-2011, 10:36 PM
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Here's my most favorite rack:
Isn't she spectacular?
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Old 02-16-2011, 05:26 AM
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I'm not sure if I should feel robbed, or relieved. I guess it really depends on what drummers you're asking.

Really like the split, creates a much more open feeling (don't like cages). How did you secure the curved bars? Do they shift? I don't see a counter balance on the bottom so I assume you're cranking that wing pretty tight.
Thanks for the comments! I secured the curved bars with the Gibraltar 90 degree tube clamps plus 2 memory locks each. Yes, I clamped it down pretty good, but not too much. Seems like it's holding pretty well so far. I thought about the possibility of it shifting. I could run a second horizontal bar across on each side and secure the curved bar in 2 spots, but I didn't want to have to buy all the extra tubes and clamps. So far it's pretty solid. I think the key is using the memory locks at each intersection where 2 pipes connect, which is what I did, plus 2 locks (one on each side) of the curved tubes. So we'll see what happens at my next gig! :)
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Old 02-16-2011, 05:28 AM
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Isn't she spectacular?
Absolutely, very spectacular! :)
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Old 02-16-2011, 05:30 AM
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Way to go Larry. The girl is famous and doesn't even know it!
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Old 02-16-2011, 06:14 AM
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Im her biggest fan. She should know she is a star here.
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I wouldn't want to transport that monstrosity.
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I wouldn't want to transport that monstrosity.
I beg to differ. I'd give Monique a ride anywhere, anytime. And how dare you call her a monstrosity!
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I beg to differ. I'd give Monique a ride anywhere, anytime. And how dare you call her a monstrosity!
Yes, but is she custom?

Grunt, you fell into that, lol!
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Old 02-17-2011, 03:23 AM
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Yes, but is she custom?
We may have to ask Bo.
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Old 02-22-2011, 07:00 PM
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I wouldn't want to transport that monstrosity.
It's not as big as you think. It basically breaks down in as much space as an equivalent set of stands would take to hold the number of cymbals I use. But the great thing is that I don't have to break it down to individual pipes to slide it into my hatchback. Almost all the cymbal booms (except 2) slide into rack tubes.

Anyway, I'm not trying to convince anyone. I've been using racks on and off for years and FOR ME they have advantages, IF designed properly, over a bunch of stands. I use a lot of cymbals (the pictures don't show them all mounted), and this setup is not only is more aesthetically pleasing to me, but is actually easier/faster to setup and break down than 6 or 7 cymbal stands with booms, and it's more consistent in positioning. I don't have to think about it. All the positions are exactly the same every time with the memory locks.

Anyway, to each his own. I was just looking for others who maybe used some creativity in their rack design/layout.
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We may have to ask Bo.
Who could've predicted a conversation about drum racks between a bunch of guy drummers would turn purverted?
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Who could've predicted a conversation about drum racks between a bunch of guy drummers would turn purverted?
I think perverted is a bit strong. Childish, sexist, pathetic, yes. Guilty as charged.
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:20 PM
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I think perverted is a bit strong. Childish, sexist, pathetic, yes. Guilty as charged.
Well, speak for yourselves! I have the ability to appreciate a beautiful woman without having to venture into the x-rated area. And I don't know any woman who wouldn't want to be considered sexy. I think women know when they're being appreciated as opposed to being leered at in a lecherous manner. It really is the other side that creates the issues (meaning us men). So yes, look, admire, appreciate, just don't become a caveman. Cool?

So, how 'bout kamranv's rack?
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:40 PM
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Well, speak for yourselves! I have the ability to appreciate a beautiful woman without having to venture into the x-rated area. And I don't know any woman who wouldn't want to be considered sexy. I think women know when they're being appreciated as opposed to being leered at in a lecherous manner. It really is the other side that creates the issues (meaning us men). So yes, look, admire, appreciate, just don't become a caveman. Cool?

So, how 'bout kamranv's rack?
Thanks for trying to get us back on track Bo. I think we're too far gone though. :)
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Old 02-22-2011, 11:13 PM
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Thanks for trying to get us back on track Bo. I think we're too far gone though. :)
No worries. We're all cool with it. At one point in my early career I tried having a rack, but that was back in the early days and it wasn't quite as "erector set" as it is today. I recall always having to have someone on the other side to help pick it up if it had to be moved. I like your design, but I'm afraid I'm still of the I can move my stuff faster one-by-one crowd.

I'm curious to know if anybody else, when they got a standard rack, did they have the issue of sympathetic vibrations going through it and affecting the rest of the gear that wasn't played?
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I'm curious to know if anybody else, when they got a standard rack, did they have the issue of sympathetic vibrations going through it and affecting the rest of the gear that wasn't played?
I got my first rack in 1984 (ahem). It was a very basic tube affair, & not well made or that stable. There certainly was some sympathetic resonance issues, but that was decades before suspension mounts. I have a Pearl DRC rack right now. There's no sympathetic resonance issues associated with direct physical transfer. It's lighter than the same facility in stands, & a lot faster to put up. I think kit complexity is the break point on the decision to use a rack or stands. My personal pov is that anything 4 drums or less, and/or 4 cymbals or less, it's better to use stands. I also prefer the look of a simple kit with stands. I have a 6 piece kit with 3 crashes, two chinas, three splashes & ride. The rack really helps me maintain a small stage footprint, & setup is faster and simplified.
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Old 02-23-2011, 12:23 AM
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I think perverted is a bit strong. Childish, sexist, pathetic, yes. Guilty as charged.
Add "within the realm of manly interests" to that list.

Definitely not perverted.
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Old 02-25-2011, 10:34 AM
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Here is mine ...

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Is that some kind of Colaiuta signature kit? looks just like his.
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Old 02-25-2011, 03:52 PM
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love this thread!!!!
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Old 02-25-2011, 06:59 PM
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I like the fact that because it's painted black, you don't really see it. I hated the early days when chrome was the only color. Black is good.
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here is my rack:



not that I'm sure you can really call a breakout box for a soundcard and an ancient hifi a "rack". I think i was a bit optomistic when I made the provisions for 19" rackmounted units on this desk to be honest ;)
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My rack. Not as pretty as Bo's rack but just as expensive.
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In keeping with Eddie's thinking...
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My rack. Not as pretty as Bo's rack but just as expensive.
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Do custom racks count? If so, here's mine:

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I thought Discovery's last flight was Thurday!
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I thought Discovery's last flight was Thurday!
Ba da bing, Andy!

And yes, it did fly last week ;)
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I need (read: really really want) to get a rack. I wish my 10" and 12" toms were a bit further to my right when I put them both on a double tom stand, and I wish they were both a little further to the left when I mount them both over the bass drum. A rack would not only allow me to put my toms where I want, but also allow for better cymbal positioning (plus the possibility of more cymbals).

Currently I'm just saving my money and holding out hope that Yamaha (or even some other company) will be able to make their hex rack again sometime in the near future. It's not like I have the extra money to go out and buy one this instant, anyway.
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I thought Discovery's last flight was Thurday!

speaking of. Check this out. Lucky flyers.
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Old 02-27-2011, 01:24 AM
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"Once you go rack you'll never go back". Got my Pearl 3 sided square rack about 6 months ago and I will never (never say never) or at least do not plan on going back to my stands, unless of course the gig calls for less is better for an acoustic thing. I can certainly appreciate the versatility it gives me for different set-ups, the consistency of settings and most importantly too me the minimal set up and break down time needed. I know I don't have to explain it to most of you but for those of you reading this thread who are more curious than anything else and who do not yet own a rack I can't express how much it was worth it for me. I have yet to discover all the advantages and love just screwing around with different drum and cymbal placement right now. I have played on racked kits before, and they have all been the round tube design and I noticed some slippage with the clamps while playing on these kits, this is why I opted for the square tube design, zero slippage and you do not have to overtighten the clamps. The only downfall to the the Pearl rack I bought was that the two sides were about 10" longer than I needed so I just cut and modified the length, which anyone having even a minimal amount of mechanical ablity can handle. "RACKS RULE" save your pennies, believe me, it will be worth it.
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"Once you go rack you'll never go back". Got my Pearl 3 sided square rack about 6 months ago and I will never (never say never) or at least do not plan on going back to my stands, unless of course the gig calls for less is better for an acoustic thing. I can certainly appreciate the versatility it gives me for different set-ups, the consistency of settings and most importantly too me the minimal set up and break down time needed. I know I don't have to explain it to most of you but for those of you reading this thread who are more curious than anything else and who do not yet own a rack I can't express how much it was worth it for me. I have yet to discover all the advantages and love just screwing around with different drum and cymbal placement right now. I have played on racked kits before, and they have all been the round tube design and I noticed some slippage with the clamps while playing on these kits, this is why I opted for the square tube design, zero slippage and you do not have to overtighten the clamps. The only downfall to the the Pearl rack I bought was that the two sides were about 10" longer than I needed so I just cut and modified the length, which anyone having even a minimal amount of mechanical ablity can handle. "RACKS RULE" save your pennies, believe me, it will be worth it.
I don't know, Jim. I went rack and I went back. If people find their way and discover that's the way to go, more power to 'em. I must not be playing enough stuff ;)
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I don't know, Jim. I went rack and I went back. If people find their way and discover that's the way to go, more power to 'em. I must not be playing enough stuff ;)
Also "went rack and went back" - if for no other reason than the rack was killing MY back. Sold it last week and am completely happy with my 6-piece on 3 stands - - but ah, that's another thread.

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Old 02-27-2011, 06:33 PM
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I don't know, Jim. I went rack and I went back. If people find their way and discover that's the way to go, more power to 'em. I must not be playing enough stuff ;)
I hear ya...Personal preference for right now anyway, like I said, never say never. It is still very new to me and I am still playing around with it also. I am sure you are probably the same but I love switching my set up around just to experiment. The most important thing as you also know is that if you are not comfortable/loose and if your kit is not set up ergonomically correct you are in for a long day following a tough gig. So I am a full supporter of being comfortable, literally from head to toe, if not you will regret. I use a set of aux hats and the rack makes it easier to them up and I will also use the rack for a mic clamp. I always bring more than I need and extra gear for giggin out and the rack helps accommodate. I also do quite a few acoustic gigs with one band and will just bring my kick, my snare, a set of hats and a crash/ride. I guess we all have to adapt to the venue/music being played. If the set list we are playing and we are covering say a ton of Porcupine Tree I will go all out and even put gear into the set up I know I won't even use, just for show so to speak. I love to entertain and put on a show, although I do not consider myself to be an over the top drummer who has to be the center of attention. Sorry for babbling, snowing out again and I'm bored waiting to go out to the Olive Garden, only if my wife would get her ass home..No show last night and I'm getting antsy...Practice later..
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