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Old 12-28-2010, 04:50 PM
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For the first time in a few years I am without a band and as luck should have it I am trapped in the house with all of my drums at the same place at the same time. Below is the work of some seriously idle hands. Enjoy
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Old 12-28-2010, 05:01 PM
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looove the silver sparkle.
how do you like those short stack toms?
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Old 12-28-2010, 09:23 PM
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mmmmmmmmmmmmm...

really like the look of all the 9000 pedals, it'd be worth me adding another just to see that, remote or a percussion pedal will do :P.
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Old 12-28-2010, 10:06 PM
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Those pics got my heart pumping!
Nice stuff!
Do you have a favorite, Or do you like them all equally?
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Old 12-28-2010, 11:39 PM
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That's alot of drums. Amazing! Do they all sound different, or are you like me and every set tends to sound alike? It must be a tick I have.... ;)
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Old 12-29-2010, 05:43 AM
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I have to ask how those short stack toms sound... and how those Ambassador X's sound. I've really wanted to try them, slightly larger sizes than I have with a shorter depth in order to get overall more body from a bigger drum, but the response and brightness of a smaller drum.

That and just the Ambassador X in general... how does that sound on those drums?
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Old 12-29-2010, 06:04 AM
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Very nice diverse collection of instruments. You must have lead noble and honorable past lives to have such great karma in this one!

Best in the new year to ya!

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p.s. Love that RB kit!
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Old 12-29-2010, 02:54 PM
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To all you inquisitive minds,

Short Stack Toms: I enjoy all the banter on this website about drum construction and particularly the optimal depth for a particular size drum. I usually play in small clubs where only my bass drum is mic'd and I have found that the smaller drums just cut through a wall of guitars better. Their smaller sizes also allow me to squeeze them into a much tighter space (both of my current kits fit on a 4'x6' carpet) and position them where I want them over the bass drum. Then there is the issue of lugging them around, just a lot easier with smaller drums. I have owned many drumsets over the years (all of them can be seen in my member page here on DW). I stumbled across my Gretsch USA Custom short stacks at the height of the power tom craze in 1989. I found them in a stack of junk at the back of a local drum shop and bought them for $200. I've also owned a set of Noble & Cooley Star Series (single-ply steam bent) short stacks in the early 90s. So my affinity for short stack drums predates any of the current trends. After many years of experimenting I have wound up back where I started simply because I can discern no significant difference in the sound/tone of anything deeper than traditional sized drums.

Ambassador X: I just recently switched all my drums to the Ambassador X over Coated Ambassador and am very happy with the results. I experimented last year with Evans G-Plus and was not happy as they sounded OK but dented much like a 10 ml head (even though I am not a heavy hitter). The Amb Xs seemed to be holding up very well and I would say they sonically fall in between Emps and Ambs as advertised. I got the idea for the Coated Ambs as resonant heads from Benny Greb, who swears they're the secret to his sound.

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Old 12-29-2010, 04:07 PM
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They're beautiful...
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Old 12-30-2010, 12:14 PM
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I can discern no significant difference in the sound/tone of anything deeper than traditional sized drums.
In most cases Chris, I'd agree, however, deeper drums can offer something different (imho) as long as the features are embraced & translated into head choice & tuning. In my experience, shallow drums promote the domination of the fundamental tone. That's why they cut through so well. Their voice is pure, & occupies a quite narrow frequency range, therefore distinctive in the live band mix. Deeper drums subdue the fundamental tone & promote domination of overtones. This gives (correctly tuned) the impression of a deeper/richer sound, in much the same way as adding chorus. You're playing with a chorus of overtones, therefore managing the mix within the drum becomes more critical from a tuning pov. Shell choice, bearing edges & venting are also very important elements with deep drums. I'm developing a new kit, based on concepts formed over the years with different constructions, with Dean of Guru Drumworks. A few months away yet, but I'm already getting excited. The risk of failure always adds an edge of extra anticipation. lol!

Anyhow, what a superb drum collection you have. All very tasty stuff, & in great condition too. Thanks for sharing.
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Old 12-30-2010, 01:14 PM
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I really like that round badge kit. Niiice!
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In most cases Chris, I'd agree, however, deeper drums can offer something different (imho) as long as the features are embraced & translated into head choice & tuning. In my experience, shallow drums promote the domination of the fundamental tone. That's why they cut through so well. Their voice is pure, & occupies a quite narrow frequency range, therefore distinctive in the live band mix. Deeper drums subdue the fundamental tone & promote domination of overtones. This gives (correctly tuned) the impression of a deeper/richer sound, in much the same way as adding chorus. You're playing with a chorus of overtones, therefore managing the mix within the drum becomes more critical from a tuning pov. Shell choice, bearing edges & venting are also very important elements with deep drums. I'm developing a new kit, based on concepts formed over the years with different constructions, with Dean of Guru Drumworks. A few months away yet, but I'm already getting excited. The risk of failure always adds an edge of extra anticipation. lol!

Anyhow, what a superb drum collection you have. All very tasty stuff, & in great condition too. Thanks for sharing.
As someone who plays square sized drums, I agree with this. There's a constant competition among musicians to be loader, "cut through" and dominate more, which doesn't necessarily make you sound better, just louder. I like the warmth and richness of deeper drums.

In any case, these are terrific, pro-level and well-cared-for sets. Thanks for sharing your drum porn stash with us.
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That's a seriously impressive collection you got there. Congrats!
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Old 01-07-2011, 10:59 PM
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I ordered short stacks with my kit to save space AND money. DW only uses half as many lugs per drum for those, so they are cheaper, and I'm making a Bozzio-style kit, so less is more. I can probably squeeze the four 3x8's and five 5x8's into an empty hardware bag. the three 5x10's, three 6x12's and the 6x13 can all fit in another case, if I find one measuring 15"x15"x48". It's like moving a snare drum collection around.

As far as sound, Bozzio switched over to short stacks for all of his kits, and they don't sound any worse to me. Adrian Young has been using OCDP's version of them for a number of years. I think people are more turned-off by the look of them than the sound. Doubly so with DW, given all of the chrome they favor.
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Old 01-09-2011, 02:56 AM
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That's a pretty impressive assortment of equipment! Your snare collection caught my eye - there's some classic snare sounds in that group.

On the matter of shell depths, I also agree with Keep It Simple. I have 2 DW kits: one has short stack sized shells, the other has FAST sized shells. Both kits have 10", 12" and 14" toms. If I put the shells from both kits together, I can detect a great deal of consistency between drums of the same diameter in terms of attack, but the overtones of the deeper FAST sized shells definitely add to the sound. The Tama Octobans illustrate the point: four or eight shells, all shells have the same diameter but have different shell depths, each produces a different tone.

Thanks for posting - love the finish on your kits.
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It is very unique to see all the drums and cymbals so level horizontal. I kinda like it!
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