Rogers Kit??

iwantadwkit · #1 11-10-2010, 06:04 PM

Hey drummer family I have been so busy lately I haven't been able to keep up with everything on here. I have a couple questions on a Rogers kit that I know nothing about that I saw for sale today. Dang you craigslist!!!! I just got a set of blue vistalites a few days ago that I will post pictures of as soon as they get cleaned up. (some genuis painted the inside of the shells in the 70's!) Sizes for thos are 22x14 12x8 13x9 16x16 18x16 great condition other than the paint.Back to what this is about I'm very interested in it I'm just a Ludwig guy and im just not sure what a good price is for it or what the value is on it. I know the Rogers drums have a huge following and I was wondering if someone could give me some pointers on here as to value and what a good buy on a kit in this condition would be. He has the sizes as 20-bass, 12 rack tom, 16 floor tom, and 14 inch snare. Any information or price point would be great hes asking a very low price and I just don't know enough about them to be sure. Sorry for the horrible pictures they are the only ones he has.

claywood · #2 11-10-2010, 10:43 PM

If I were you, I wouldn't spend a dime on that kit. Looks to be an import from the 80s(?). Rogers' glory days were from the late 50s/early 60s to the early 70s. Some folks even like the Big R era in the 70s, but I'm personally not a huge fan. Also, the Rogers XP-8 stuff from the early 80s is quality. They stopped production in '84, I believe, and anything with a Rogers brand on it after that point is basically valueless.

If you want quality with the vintage tone, look for script badge Cleveland/Dayton/Fullerton era drums from about 1963-1973. Beavertail lugs (which the ones in these photos are modeled after) were much stronger than the earlier Bread and Butter lugs.

Hope that helps!

iwantadwkit · #3 11-10-2010, 10:52 PM

I couldn't tell it almost looked like a big R kit with the small view of the badge in one of the pictures but like I said I don't know too much about it. He was asking 75 I think for it but I won't go for it then thanks for the advice! I'll stick with the new vistas!

harryconway · #4 11-11-2010, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by iwantadwkit

He was asking 75...

And that's about what they're worth. That 16x16 would make a great waste paper basket.

Bo Eder · #5 11-11-2010, 10:37 AM

$75 isn't a bad price to spend for a complete set of thrasher drums. They could be cleaned up and actually used as a practice set if you want to invest money for heads, making the kit actually $250 after you bought new heads and cleaned 'em up a bit....

Last I checked Guitar Center was selling those cheap Chinese kits for $299.

JohnPloughman · #6 11-12-2010, 04:43 AM

75 isnt a bad deal. The bass drum tom mount is a replacement. But those are Island music import drums, made after 1985. There is no vintage value.

Cleveland to 1966, overlap to Dayton in late 66
Dayton to 1969
Fullerton Script to 1975
Big R Fullerton to 1978/9
Big R Fullerton XP8 to 1984.

bobdadruma · #7 11-12-2010, 05:06 AM

For $75 it will make a good practice kit.
20 inch bass drum is fun to play too.
A little plastic polish will shine the shells up nice.
Aside from that whacky tom mount they look to be all in tact.

Those are classic craigs pics.
You wouldn't want to spend 5 mins wiping the dust off of them and moving the drums to a neat room before the photos were taken :)

I can't believe that someone painted that Luddy kit! WOW!

iwantadwkit · #8 11-13-2010, 06:35 AM

Thanks for the advice friends.
Bob- yeah it breaks my heart to see that someone would take the vistas and slap some fugly turquiose paint on the inside of the shells. Im planning on starting a before and after thread very soon. I have everything cleaned up other than the bass drum needs polishing and the hoops are in pretty rough shape.
The drums are missing a few things 12 13 and 16 need bottom hoops, the tom double mount, the bass drum leg/spurs. Can someone possibly give me some tips for restoring the hoop sanding and what type of paint would work best also what are my options with the inlay as the staples on one have come apart and the not salvagable. Anyone have a better place than ebay to find this stuff????

eamesuser · #9 11-13-2010, 10:05 PM

As far as bass drum hoops go,I have had good luck with sanding about 220 grit,I am assuming the hoops are painted black,I used krylon spray paint,semi gloss black,I took the hoop to home depot and matched up to the cap on the can.I just put masking tape over the inlay and used a razor blade in between the inlay and side of the hoop.As far as the inlay goes as I remember Ludwig usually used a silver /mirror chrome strip with vistalite kits,shouldn't be hard to find that.Precision Drums might be a good place to start.As far as finding parts goes some of the drum forums have buy/sell/trade sections,http://www.drumforum.org/index.php?/index? is vintage/american drum oriented, has buy/ sell /trade and a good restoration section,so does http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/index.php