DRUMMERWORLD OFFICIAL DISCUSSION FORUM   

Go Back   DRUMMERWORLD OFFICIAL DISCUSSION FORUM > Your Place > Your Gear

Your Gear Show your Gear - Pictures - Descriptions

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 10-23-2010, 05:15 AM
NYDRUMMA NYDRUMMA is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 111
Default Started my drum room a couple of weeks ago. Some progress photos.

So first thing is first. This is my first house and the first project I've ever taken on virtually alone, so go easy on my craftsmanship. Up until I started this project you probably could have extracted more carpentry out of a set of drumsticks than my hands....yeah THAT BAD lol. A few things I've learned is to be patient and spend more time planning than you think you need. I haven't payed in two weeks and the room not being done is starting to wear on me. I need to learn patience. I've also learned that you will regret shortcuts (like not wiring lights in the ceilings or outlets in the new wall.

The construction was just a ceiling and one wall. I had help for the first 3 days, after that completely solo and that just makes everything take 5x longer.

Anyways rather than clog up the site with a ton of pictures (i don't know how to anyways) I thought I would just post these first couple of weeks to photobucket and just post a link.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I tried to comment on all of the pictures to give a general idea of what the picture is showing.

Any future updates I will try to link an image to the post.

http://s982.photobucket.com/albums/a...t=IMG_3851.jpg


























Last edited by NYDRUMMA; 10-23-2010 at 04:09 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-23-2010, 06:34 AM
bobdadruma's Avatar
bobdadruma bobdadruma is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: second measure of a fill-in
Posts: 10,153
Default Re: Started my drum room a couple of weeks ago. Some progress photos.

Looking good!
You have been busy.
__________________
I kind of like old drums:)
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-23-2010, 03:58 PM
NYDRUMMA NYDRUMMA is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 111
Default Re: Started my drum room a couple of weeks ago. Some progress photos.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobdadruma View Post
Looking good!
You have been busy.
Thanks Bob. Yeah I've been working my butt off. I thought I would have it done by now. Oh well, I'm thinking no more than a week to go. I should be finished with the painting by tomorrow night. My acoustic foam came this morning. Then I have a little work to do in the closet. The carpet should be installed during the week then its decorating and trim work. So far I've managed to do all of this with only three minor injuries lol.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-23-2010, 04:07 PM
bobdadruma's Avatar
bobdadruma bobdadruma is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: second measure of a fill-in
Posts: 10,153
Default Re: Started my drum room a couple of weeks ago. Some progress photos.

Every home remodeling project that I have ever done always seems to take twice as long as I had anticipated and the project always goes over budget.

My experience has been with bathrooms, kitchens, window/door replacement, etc.

You will be playing in your new room soon and the work that you did will have a pay off.
__________________
I kind of like old drums:)
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-23-2010, 09:49 PM
Deathmetalconga's Avatar
Deathmetalconga Deathmetalconga is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Boise, Idaho
Posts: 7,225
Default Re: Started my drum room a couple of weeks ago. Some progress photos.

Wow, great work. Anyone asking how to do it right should check out this thread.

Are you putting two layers of sheetrock on the ceiling? The extra mass will really help to stop low sounds.
__________________
Ironwood kit Tiki kit Openhanders Vids
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-23-2010, 11:56 PM
NYDRUMMA NYDRUMMA is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 111
Default Re: Started my drum room a couple of weeks ago. Some progress photos.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Deathmetalconga View Post
Wow, great work. Anyone asking how to do it right should check out this thread.

Are you putting two layers of sheetrock on the ceiling? The extra mass will really help to stop low sounds.
Thanks a lot Conga I appreciate it.

Yes I used two layers with green glue on the new ceiling and the new wall. The existing walls I left alone mostly due to budget and also because the foundation is behind them so it would not prevent as much sound getting out as the ceiling and the new wall would. Ideally i would have framed another wall inside of those using the same technique as the new wall, but hey I'm not loaded lol.

As far as noise reduction so far I am really amazed at the difference. When I used to be downstairs (before it had just a drop ceiling with fiberglass tiles) I could hear conversations above me coming through the floor. I could even pinpoint which couch they were sitting in. I can't imagine how loud me drumming was for them. Now if I hear anything from upstairs it is the sound coming through the door leading to the basement and coming in through where I haven't hung the door.

I bought a solid core pine door for the room, but I may try to find a more solid door or a steel door if I can and put the pine door upstairs. It's a paneled door and I think I want a flush door now. Once that is in it will make a huge difference. I hope to make a video to post on youtube when I'm done of the process and the difference in sound.



Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-24-2010, 05:05 PM
DrumEatDrum's Avatar
DrumEatDrum DrumEatDrum is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 7,660
Default Re: Started my drum room a couple of weeks ago. Some progress photos.

Nice!

I can see you put a lot of time into the design to make it work for drumming.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-24-2010, 05:47 PM
Brundlefly's Avatar
Brundlefly Brundlefly is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Foothill Ranch, CA
Posts: 493
Default Re: Started my drum room a couple of weeks ago. Some progress photos.

If it's not too late, one thing you might consider is to not mount the outlets flush into the wall. Instead, mount them on the wall externally. The fewer holes you punch into to those beefy walls, the better they will perform.

__________________
-brundlefly | drum kit info
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-24-2010, 05:54 PM
BillBachman's Avatar
BillBachman BillBachman is offline
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 1,050
Default Re: Started my drum room a couple of weeks ago. Some progress photos.

Looks great! I dunno if it's too late, but I'd recommend to overlap the seams whenever you put up double layers of drywall. And putting a second layer of drywall with more green glue in between with the seams overlapped on the soffit will make a big difference. That was the weak point on my room and my wife noticed a big difference in sound even during the installation of that layer.

Cool room!
__________________
Modern Drummer Ed. team
DrumWorkout.com
Skype hand tech lessons:
billbachman.net
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-24-2010, 06:37 PM
NYDRUMMA NYDRUMMA is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 111
Default Re: Started my drum room a couple of weeks ago. Some progress photos.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brundlefly View Post
If it's not too late, one thing you might consider is to not mount the outlets flush into the wall. Instead, mount them on the wall externally. The fewer holes you punch into to those beefy walls, the better they will perform.

Brundlefly, your build was one i looked at often for sound isolation strategies and ideas. I havent installed any lights or outlets in the new wall and ceiling and haven't planned on it yet. I just have zero knowledge of electricity and how to run wires and would like to make sure I live through the build to see it completed haha. I bought some of the puddy pads for outlets but that's as far as i have thought it out so far. I will however take your advice when it comes to that time. Thanks.


Quote:
Originally Posted by BillBachman View Post
Looks great! I dunno if it's too late, but I'd recommend to overlap the seams whenever you put up double layers of drywall. And putting a second layer of drywall with more green glue in between with the seams overlapped on the soffit will make a big difference. That was the weak point on my room and my wife noticed a big difference in sound even during the installation of that layer.

Cool room!
Thanks Bill, I actually did overlap the seams for the soffit more by accident than anything else lol. I did it as much as I could for the rest of the ceiling. This was my first drywall job and I definitely could have done better about overlapping seams.

Thanks guys I was having kind of a lazy day today and now I feel a kick in the pants to get more done. Today it's sanding the soffit and some Home Depot shopping for a flush door, baseboard and trim. I bought a 6 panel pine door but I think I can find a better door.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 10-25-2010, 12:47 AM
dk1968's Avatar
dk1968 dk1968 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chattanooga, Tennessee
Posts: 12
Default Re: Started my drum room a couple of weeks ago. Some progress photos.

Your room is looking great, the only pics I did not see were of the floor. Did you isolate that as well?
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 10-25-2010, 01:33 AM
GetAgrippa GetAgrippa is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: U.S.
Posts: 337
Default Re: Started my drum room a couple of weeks ago. Some progress photos.

Great job!!! You are sooooo right about the patience and planning. I go over, mock up, go over again, measure again, mock it up again, etc. till I'm bold enough to move. I am a novice too so I've screwed up so many times I've learned to be patient and go over till I'm sure. I am afraid of electricity also (and for good reason as I've been lit up like a christmas tree too many times). I suggest a qualified electrician, but you may have a friend (my neuroscientist friend was an electrical engineer so he is a wonderful resource to keep me from killing myself or burning my house down). Keep up the good work-looks like the worst is over with???
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 10-25-2010, 04:36 AM
NYDRUMMA NYDRUMMA is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 111
Default Re: Started my drum room a couple of weeks ago. Some progress photos.

Quote:
Originally Posted by dk1968 View Post
Your room is looking great, the only pics I did not see were of the floor. Did you isolate that as well?
No, I'm having a new carpet and pad installed so that's about all i did. I didn't want to go too crazy with the floor since it is a basement...something to consider for next time though.

Quote:
Originally Posted by GetAgrippa View Post
Great job!!! You are sooooo right about the patience and planning. I go over, mock up, go over again, measure again, mock it up again, etc. till I'm bold enough to move. I am a novice too so I've screwed up so many times I've learned to be patient and go over till I'm sure. I am afraid of electricity also (and for good reason as I've been lit up like a christmas tree too many times). I suggest a qualified electrician, but you may have a friend (my neuroscientist friend was an electrical engineer so he is a wonderful resource to keep me from killing myself or burning my house down). Keep up the good work-looks like the worst is over with???
I didn't plan nearly enough. The big mistake is no lighting in the ceiling. I bought some lamps today and they just aren't cutting it. I will have to figure out an answer to this one now...but its a learning process. Every mistake I make now I will only make once hahaha.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 10-25-2010, 05:10 AM
Deathmetalconga's Avatar
Deathmetalconga Deathmetalconga is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Boise, Idaho
Posts: 7,225
Default Re: Started my drum room a couple of weeks ago. Some progress photos.

Quote:
Originally Posted by NYDRUMMA View Post
Thanks a lot Conga I appreciate it.

Yes I used two layers with green glue on the new ceiling and the new wall. The existing walls I left alone mostly due to budget and also because the foundation is behind them so it would not prevent as much sound getting out as the ceiling and the new wall would. Ideally i would have framed another wall inside of those using the same technique as the new wall, but hey I'm not loaded lol.

As far as noise reduction so far I am really amazed at the difference. When I used to be downstairs (before it had just a drop ceiling with fiberglass tiles) I could hear conversations above me coming through the floor. I could even pinpoint which couch they were sitting in. I can't imagine how loud me drumming was for them. Now if I hear anything from upstairs it is the sound coming through the door leading to the basement and coming in through where I haven't hung the door.

I bought a solid core pine door for the room, but I may try to find a more solid door or a steel door if I can and put the pine door upstairs. It's a paneled door and I think I want a flush door now. Once that is in it will make a huge difference. I hope to make a video to post on youtube when I'm done of the process and the difference in sound.
You are definitely doing it right. The only things that stop low frequency sound are mass and space. Two layers of sheetrock will definitely kill sound. Hell, if you are feeling gung-ho, a third layer would be outrageous - you'd have a crypt! If your hinges will handle it, have you thought about putting sheetrock on the door as well? You could even maybe put some kind of plastic or rubber flange around the door to further seal it off and trim off sheetrock on the door.

Your ideas for the ventilation system are great. I would also urge you to consider a ceiling fan. It is a good way to improve your comfort.
__________________
Ironwood kit Tiki kit Openhanders Vids
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 10-25-2010, 08:47 AM
Bo Eder's Avatar
Bo Eder Bo Eder is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Southern California
Posts: 10,881
Default Re: Started my drum room a couple of weeks ago. Some progress photos.

I'm envious. You are building a great room there! Impressive skillz you got for being a novice! I suppose it helps to have a personal end result in mind before you begin!
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 11-01-2010, 09:14 PM
specgrade's Avatar
specgrade specgrade is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Ohio, USA
Posts: 267
Default Re: Started my drum room a couple of weeks ago. Some progress photos.

I like the metal ceiling studs. What are they called and where did you find them? They look like what I could use in my basement. Thanks!

Way to go on the build, looks really good. What are the dimensions?
__________________
2002 Pearl Export EXL Burgundy Mist
Paiste 2002, Alpha and 802
5B Nylon Tip Vic Firth sticks
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 11-02-2010, 04:10 AM
NYDRUMMA NYDRUMMA is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 111
Default Re: Started my drum room a couple of weeks ago. Some progress photos.

Ok more updated photos on what I did this past weekend.

Carpet was installed and I painted the walls and ceiling.



Another shot of the carpet and ceiling:



Got some foam mounted on the walls:



Got one of my kits in now:



Another shot:




I still have a lot to do. Now it's in the details. I still have more foam to mount and will likely order more for the other side of the room. I decided to install track lighting also as the dark room really kills the light. I also have to get outlet covers and trim. I ordered a solid core door that will arrive in 3 weeks and I also have to finish the closet. All in all I am pretty happy though. If I can do this with minimal help, anyone can.

Specgrade: I believe you are referring to the Hat channel. That is to prevent sound being conducted from your wall being screwed directly to the joists. The channel gets mounted onto clips screwed to the joists with one screw. This reduces the surface area that contacts the joist. I found it at my local drywall supply company. It's 7/8 in 20 gauge hat channel. Or they are also called furring channel/strips.

My room is about 17 1/2 ft. by 14 3/4 ft.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 11-02-2010, 04:38 AM
Brundlefly's Avatar
Brundlefly Brundlefly is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Foothill Ranch, CA
Posts: 493
Default Re: Started my drum room a couple of weeks ago. Some progress photos.

Quote:
Originally Posted by NYDRUMMA View Post
Ok more updated photos on what I did this past weekend.

Carpet was installed and I painted the walls and ceiling.

My room is about 17 1/2 ft. by 14 3/4 ft.
Sweet! Everyone should have a drum room. It's so nice to be able to play any time you want and not worry about who you're going to bother. And as someone I work with pointed out, it effectively doubles as a "murder room." You know, just in case you ever need one of those in a pinch.
__________________
-brundlefly | drum kit info
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 11-02-2010, 05:38 AM
Homeularis's Avatar
Homeularis Homeularis is offline
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: San Francisco/Oakland East Bay, CA, USA
Posts: 1,062
Default Re: Started my drum room a couple of weeks ago. Some progress photos.

I,m jealous!.........
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 11-02-2010, 08:08 PM
NYDRUMMA NYDRUMMA is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 111
Default Re: Started my drum room a couple of weeks ago. Some progress photos.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brundlefly View Post
Sweet! Everyone should have a drum room. It's so nice to be able to play any time you want and not worry about who you're going to bother. And as someone I work with pointed out, it effectively doubles as a "murder room." You know, just in case you ever need one of those in a pinch.
Hahahaha! Yeah it's great having that room...I've already noticed I feel like it's my place and get more focused and enjoy it even more.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 11-04-2010, 02:42 AM
Migaluch's Avatar
Migaluch Migaluch is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Murrieta, CA
Posts: 309
Default Re: Started my drum room a couple of weeks ago. Some progress photos.

I am DEFINATELY going to make one of these when i am old and rich enough. How much does building a drum room cost, and where do you get the training in such carpentering? I am just a teenager, so i have no experience in this area whatsoever. How do you learn to become a carpenter and remodel rooms like this?
__________________
For all your PSP downloading needs!
http://www.pspdlc.net/ is the place to be!
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 11-04-2010, 09:35 AM
Brundlefly's Avatar
Brundlefly Brundlefly is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Foothill Ranch, CA
Posts: 493
Default Re: Started my drum room a couple of weeks ago. Some progress photos.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Migaluch View Post
I am DEFINATELY going to make one of these when i am old and rich enough. How much does building a drum room cost, and where do you get the training in such carpentering? I am just a teenager, so i have no experience in this area whatsoever. How do you learn to become a carpenter and remodel rooms like this?
How much it costs depends greatly on what you build and where you build it. It is possible to build a somewhat quiet, bare bones 8x8x8 room into a garage space for ~$500.00. More than likely, you'll be looking at closer to $2,500.00 min for any kind of reasonably quiet room with ventilation and a decent door. Costs go up dramatically from there. Generally speaking, the costs for sound proofing scale quadratically.

How much experience you need also depends on what you build. Something simple can be done with very little previous experience, but I would recommend getting help from someone with experience as this will prevent costly mistakes.
__________________
-brundlefly | drum kit info
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 11-04-2010, 06:59 PM
synergy's Avatar
synergy synergy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Rochester NY via London UK
Posts: 297
Default Re: Started my drum room a couple of weeks ago. Some progress photos.

Damn all you basement/garage drum room studio people are making me vivid green with envy!!!

There have been some great rooms on her recently- this one no exception.

I will have to stick to my little drum room that I currently have- no sound proofing and cant play while the kids are at home unless i'm no the electric.

Ohhh some day
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 11-04-2010, 08:48 PM
RFEDrummer RFEDrummer is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 45
Default Re: Started my drum room a couple of weeks ago. Some progress photos.

Wow, looks good. I always wanted to build my own drum room, maybe some day... Great work by the way!
__________________
My drum tumblr Drum stuff

Dunnett. Ocheltree. DW. Zildjian.
Old kit pics
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 11-05-2010, 03:46 AM
NYDRUMMA NYDRUMMA is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 111
Default Re: Started my drum room a couple of weeks ago. Some progress photos.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Migaluch View Post
I am DEFINATELY going to make one of these when i am old and rich enough. How much does building a drum room cost, and where do you get the training in such carpentering? I am just a teenager, so i have no experience in this area whatsoever. How do you learn to become a carpenter and remodel rooms like this?
Hahaha i have never been accused of being a carpenter in my entire life! If you knew me you would be laughing also.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Brundlefly View Post
How much it costs depends greatly on what you build and where you build it. It is possible to build a somewhat quiet, bare bones 8x8x8 room into a garage space for ~$500.00. More than likely, you'll be looking at closer to $2,500.00 min for any kind of reasonably quiet room with ventilation and a decent door. Costs go up dramatically from there. Generally speaking, the costs for sound proofing scale quadratically.

How much experience you need also depends on what you build. Something simple can be done with very little previous experience, but I would recommend getting help from someone with experience as this will prevent costly mistakes.
Brundlefly knows what he is talking about. My room so far has cost about 2,300 and thats just one new wall and one ceiling so think about at least doubling that amount for the other three walls. However if I wanted to just build the room and didn't care about sound proofing, It would be much cheaper. About 500 is what it would have cost me for one wall, one ceiling, one layer of drywall and a cheaper door.

He is also right in saying knowing someone with experience is all you really need. I had a good friend help me the first three days of the build and I learned a lot. I really had no experience at all. I had not a single tool, all of them were borrowed.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 11-05-2010, 03:52 AM
NYDRUMMA NYDRUMMA is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 111
Default Re: Started my drum room a couple of weeks ago. Some progress photos.

Quote:
Originally Posted by RFEDrummer View Post
Wow, looks good. I always wanted to build my own drum room, maybe some day... Great work by the way!
Quote:
Originally Posted by synergy View Post
Damn all you basement/garage drum room studio people are making me vivid green with envy!!!

There have been some great rooms on her recently- this one no exception.

I will have to stick to my little drum room that I currently have- no sound proofing and cant play while the kids are at home unless i'm no the electric.

Ohhh some day
Thanks guys I really appreciate the kind words. To be honest even when I am finished I don't think I will be able to play while the kids are sleeping... It has cut down the noise a lot, however it is not soundproof. To be able to play while the kids are sleeping would cost me more than double probably. Look at Brundlefly's build and think that way.... either way I am happy with the results I have gotten so far.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 11-05-2010, 09:40 PM
drumr0's Avatar
drumr0 drumr0 is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Gordonsville, Tn.
Posts: 655
Default Re: Started my drum room a couple of weeks ago. Some progress photos.

I have to say that I'm jealous too. The room looks great! Your drums look great too. I want to do a drum room, but I have very limited space (no basement). I thought about buying one of those pre-fab wooden out buildings and sound proof it as much as possible to play drums in. Any thoughts on doing something like that?
__________________
My Kit- DW--Paiste--Sabian--Gibraltar--http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=30002
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 11-05-2010, 10:12 PM
synergy's Avatar
synergy synergy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Rochester NY via London UK
Posts: 297
Default Re: Started my drum room a couple of weeks ago. Some progress photos.

Hey drumr0- I've been agonizing over the very same thing.

Biggest problem I've been thinking about is that I live in negative temps for a 3rd of the year.

I worry that the temp changes will cause damage to my kit etc-

I can heat the place- but then I'm spending money on heating a wooden shed!
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 10-13-2011, 12:13 AM
jassdrummer jassdrummer is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 2
Default Re: Started my drum room a couple of weeks ago. Some progress photos.

Looks great, I'm considering installing in my room/studio a nice carpet too... Did you install your grey carpet yourself?
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are Off
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off




All times are GMT +2. The time now is 09:07 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Bernhard Castiglioni's DRUMMERWORLD.com